This just proves how biased reviewers are today

Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
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It's only 2%, quit crying little baby man.
It's not the percentage that matters. It's the fact that they gave a sequel that was better than its prequel a better score. >_>
Maybe to you.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap average (just remembered what the NMH scores were, the game was better than that), but was successful (allowing a sequel, which I sadly have yet to play). Reviews aren't true sometimes.
 
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
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It's only 2%, quit crying little baby man.
It's not the percentage that matters. It's the fact that they gave a sequel that was better than its prequel a better score. >_>
Maybe to you.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap average (just remembered what the NMH scores were, the game was better than that), but was successful (allowing a sequel, which I sadly have yet to play). Reviews aren't true sometimes.
I know that they're not true... That's the whole purpose of this thread. =p
 
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
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It's only 2%, quit crying little baby man.
It's not the percentage that matters. It's the fact that they gave a sequel that was better than its prequel a better score. >_>
Maybe to you.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap average (just remembered what the NMH scores were, the game was better than that), but was successful (allowing a sequel, which I sadly have yet to play). Reviews aren't true sometimes.
I know that they're not true... That's the whole purpose of this thread. =p
Yeh well, it happens.
It happens every now and then, but unless you can start a big time website with your own reviews and such, not much can be done.
 
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
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It's only 2%, quit crying little baby man.
It's not the percentage that matters. It's the fact that they gave a sequel that was better than its prequel a better score. >_>
Maybe to you.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap average (just remembered what the NMH scores were, the game was better than that), but was successful (allowing a sequel, which I sadly have yet to play). Reviews aren't true sometimes.
I know that they're not true... That's the whole purpose of this thread. =p
Yeh well, it happens.
It happens every now and then, but unless you can start a big time website with your own reviews and such, not much can be done.
<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Hehe.
 
Tyeforce said:
Yetiman15 said:
Tyeforce said:
TravisTouchdown said:
Tyeforce said:
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So, you're assuming that because it's a sequel, it deserves a higher score?
No. It doesn't deserve a better score just because it's a sequel. There are plenty of sequels that don't live up to their prequels. However, when you have a sequel like Spirit Tracks that is pretty much unanimously called the better game, it should obviously have a better score. >_>
But just because you think it's unanimously better doesn't mean it is. You know?
Do you even know what the word "unanimous" means? One person can't think that it's "unanimously" better, because in order for something to be unanimous, a group of people have to all agree the same. I'm not speaking for myself here, I'm saying that almost everyone agrees that Spirit Tracks is better than Phantom Hourglass, so it's almost unanimous. Don't take my word for it, ask almost anyone. Spirit Tracks took what Phantom Hourglass had and improved on it; it's better, and that's pretty much a fact. Of course, someone can still prefer Phantom Hourglass over Spirit Tracks, but because the games use the same engine yet Spirit Tracks added and fixed a lot of things, it's clearly the better game. The only reason why that can be said is because the games are so similar. It's not like you're comparing old Sonic games to new Sonic games; there's a very big difference in gameplay and everything there. Here, that's not the case. It's like saying Wii Fit is better than Wii Fit Plus, when Wii Fit Plus is the exact same game as Wii Fit, except with added game modes and features. Obviously, Spirit Tracks isn't the exact same game as Phantom Hourglass with added features, but they're still very similar. Kinda like New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Almost anyone will tell you that New Super Mario Bros. Wii was by far the better game, because it took what New Super Mario Bros. had an heavily expanded on it, while still being a similar game.
... A good majority of the posts on this topic say the game's too similar to PH.
 
Yetiman15 said:
Tyeforce said:
Yetiman15 said:
Tyeforce said:
TravisTouchdown said:
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No. It doesn't deserve a better score just because it's a sequel. There are plenty of sequels that don't live up to their prequels. However, when you have a sequel like Spirit Tracks that is pretty much unanimously called the better game, it should obviously have a better score. >_>
But just because you think it's unanimously better doesn't mean it is. You know?
Do you even know what the word "unanimous" means? One person can't think that it's "unanimously" better, because in order for something to be unanimous, a group of people have to all agree the same. I'm not speaking for myself here, I'm saying that almost everyone agrees that Spirit Tracks is better than Phantom Hourglass, so it's almost unanimous. Don't take my word for it, ask almost anyone. Spirit Tracks took what Phantom Hourglass had and improved on it; it's better, and that's pretty much a fact. Of course, someone can still prefer Phantom Hourglass over Spirit Tracks, but because the games use the same engine yet Spirit Tracks added and fixed a lot of things, it's clearly the better game. The only reason why that can be said is because the games are so similar. It's not like you're comparing old Sonic games to new Sonic games; there's a very big difference in gameplay and everything there. Here, that's not the case. It's like saying Wii Fit is better than Wii Fit Plus, when Wii Fit Plus is the exact same game as Wii Fit, except with added game modes and features. Obviously, Spirit Tracks isn't the exact same game as Phantom Hourglass with added features, but they're still very similar. Kinda like New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Almost anyone will tell you that New Super Mario Bros. Wii was by far the better game, because it took what New Super Mario Bros. had an heavily expanded on it, while still being a similar game.
... A good majority of the posts on this topic say the game's too similar to PH.
No, it says it's similar, but better. >_> Being similar to another game isn't a bad thing. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is going to be very similar to Super Mario Galaxy, but that by no means means it's going to be bad. It's already looking to be much better than the first one, and the first one was already amazing.
Here's what I learned from my multiple hands-on sessions with Super Mario Galaxy 2...

1. I think this game may actually look better than the original Galaxy (visuals)
2. Having Yoshi in a Galaxy setting is so much fun that it seems criminal
3. The level designs for Galaxy 2 are way more outlandish than the original. It seems like these worlds were designed for ultimate fun, without a worry for landform designs that would make sense in real life.
4. Galaxy 2 is, from what I played, measurably harder than the original
5. I want the finished game now...VERY badly

I played Super Mario Galaxy 2 more than any other title at the summit. I actually went through all the levels that were up for demo, and there were quite a few. I was and still am shocked with just how far Nintendo has taken the level design from the first game. I'm telling you, these layouts were far superior in imagination and design than the ones in Galaxy. Keep in mind, I thought Galaxy was a near perfect game! I just simply couldn't get enough to traversing the worlds, and exploring every little nook and cranny. I think I can hear the demo calling for me right now...

Easily the best part of the whole demo was getting to take Yoshi along for the ride. I always love when Yoshi makes an appearance, and having his abilities upgraded for Galaxy 2 was just the icing on the cake. Using the Wiimote pointer to grab things with Yoshi's tongue is going to make it hard to go back to classic-style Yoshi. You can instantly snatch up any enemies that are remotely close to you. Sure, Yoshi's tongue seems to have grown a bit longer during this process, but that's just fine by me!

I really don't want to ruin the game for you, but I absolutely have to describe one of the Yoshi levels I played. It's basically set up as a massive rollercoaster for you to ride Yoshi through. Yoshi turns into a steam-powered racer when he eats one of the red peppers scatted throughout the level. I think that's what they were...but that's beside the point. When Yoshi eats one, he takes off running, and you have to guide him down a path. These ramps lead to portions of the path that run straight up walls, around enemies and all over the air. You'll also have to keep Yoshi on solid ground as you do all this, as you're often running on platforms that are surrounded by nothing but black holes. Along the way you're snatching enemies with your tongue, grabbing other goodies, and trying to find the right path to your star. Talking about how much fun this was does the game zero justice.

If you thought the above description made Super Mario Galaxy 2 sound a bit more difficult than the original, I'd have agree. I definitely found more of a challenge in this game than Galaxy. There were very few points in the original that gave me a challenge, but this demo time was filled with stages that really tested my skills. There was one stage in particular that had me collecting 100 purple coins in 4 minutes, which were scattered about on twist-flipping platforms. You spin in the air, and the platforms flip to another position. Grab all the coins in the time limit, spin to create a path, and do all this while chain chomps roll out of tunnels after you. I managed to beat the level with just 24 seconds left, and my hands were sweating/heart was pounding. This is EXACTLY the kind of challenge I want in my Galaxy!

When Miyamoto discussed how he and his developers didn't even scratch the surface with the ideas that Galaxy opened up, he was telling the truth. This demo really showed me just how far Nintendo could take the Galaxy idea. It's being pushed in new directions, stretched in ways that I could have never thought of. When its all boiled down, does it just equate to more Galaxy? I guess I'd have to say yes...but that's exactly what I wanted.
More of the same isn't necessarily a bad thing. >_>
 
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
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Maybe to you.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap average (just remembered what the NMH scores were, the game was better than that), but was successful (allowing a sequel, which I sadly have yet to play). Reviews aren't true sometimes.
I know that they're not true... That's the whole purpose of this thread. =p
Yeh well, it happens.
It happens every now and then, but unless you can start a big time website with your own reviews and such, not much can be done.
<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Hehe.
So basically, the entire point of this thread is you saying all review sites suck and yours will be awesome.
 
Why bring up a game that hasn't come out yet?
What are we even arguing over? I'm just saying that for it to be unanimous EVERYONE would have to be in complete agreement. You and I both like it more than PH but there are reviewers out there and other people on there (some of which are posting on this thread) that believe it just isn't as good.
I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I'm not going to argue it.
 
Rawburt said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepyou.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap average (just remembered what the NMH scores were, the game was better than that), but was successful (allowing a sequel, which I sadly have yet to play). Reviews aren't true sometimes.
I know that they're not true... That's the whole purpose of this thread. =p
Yeh well, it happens.
It happens every now and then, but unless you can start a big time website with your own reviews and such, not much can be done.
<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Hehe.
So basically, the entire point of this thread is you saying all review sites suck and yours will be awesome.
i lol'd
 
Rawburt said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepyou.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap average (just remembered what the NMH scores were, the game was better than that), but was successful (allowing a sequel, which I sadly have yet to play). Reviews aren't true sometimes.
I know that they're not true... That's the whole purpose of this thread. =p
Yeh well, it happens.
It happens every now and then, but unless you can start a big time website with your own reviews and such, not much can be done.
<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Hehe.
So basically, the entire point of this thread is you saying all review sites suck and yours will be awesome.
Um...no? I didn't even plan to say anything about our reviews. =p But we won't be as biased as most of the reviewers out there. (No, it won't be just fanboy rants. >_>)
 
Yetiman15 said:
Why bring up a game that hasn't come out yet?
What are we even arguing over? I'm just saying that for it to be unanimous EVERYONE would have to be in complete agreement. You and I both like it more than PH but there are reviewers out there and other people on there (some of which are posting on this thread) that believe it just isn't as good.
I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I'm not going to argue it.
That's why I made sure I said "pretty much" and "almost" unanimous, not just "unanimous". >_>
 
Tyeforce said:
Rawburt said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepyou.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap
Yeh well, it happens.
It happens every now and then, but unless you can start a big time website with your own reviews and such, not much can be done.
<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Hehe.
So basically, the entire point of this thread is you saying all review sites suck and yours will be awesome.
Um...no? I didn't even plan to say anything about our reviews. =p But we won't be as biased as most of the reviewers out there. (No, it won't be just fanboy rants. >_>)
It'll be fanboy rants.

At least, yours will be. Andrew maybe not. Unless you plan on "hiring" other people to help review things.
 
Tom said:
Tyeforce said:
Rawburt said:
Tyeforce said:
Solgineer said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepyou.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap
<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Hehe.
So basically, the entire point of this thread is you saying all review sites suck and yours will be awesome.
Um...no? I didn't even plan to say anything about our reviews. =p But we won't be as biased as most of the reviewers out there. (No, it won't be just fanboy rants. >_>)
It'll be fanboy rants.

At least, yours will be. Andrew maybe not. Unless you plan on "hiring" other people to help review things.
Ugh. Seriously? You don't think that I can put my fanboyness behind for a review? We haven't even started yet, so don't act like you can predict the future. >_>

Besides, I'm not the kind of fanboy who likes games just because they're a fanboy. I'm a fanboy because I like the games. Not the reverse.

And Andrew is just as much of a fanboy as I am. He's just better at not posting stupid things. =p
 
Tyeforce said:
Yetiman15 said:
Why bring up a game that hasn't come out yet?
What are we even arguing over? I'm just saying that for it to be unanimous EVERYONE would have to be in complete agreement. You and I both like it more than PH but there are reviewers out there and other people on there (some of which are posting on this thread) that believe it just isn't as good.
I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I'm not going to argue it.
That's why I made sure I said "pretty much" and "almost" unanimous, not just "unanimous". >_>
And that's why it got a lower score from a different source because it isn't unanimous as you just said. It's not that you're wrong in saying that the game should be considered better, but you have to realize that they aren't wrong in what they say either, there's no bias it's just there opinion.
 
Tyeforce said:
Tom said:
Tyeforce said:
Rawburt said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepyou.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Hehe.
So basically, the entire point of this thread is you saying all review sites suck and yours will be awesome.
Um...no? I didn't even plan to say anything about our reviews. =p But we won't be as biased as most of the reviewers out there. (No, it won't be just fanboy rants. >_>)
It'll be fanboy rants.

At least, yours will be. Andrew maybe not. Unless you plan on "hiring" other people to help review things.
Ugh. Seriously? You don't think that I can put my fanboyness behind for a review? We haven't even started yet, so don't act like you can predict the future. >_>

Besides, I'm not the kind of fanboy who likes games just because they're a fanboy. I'm a fanboy because I like the games. Not the reverse.

And Andrew is just as much of a fanboy as I am. He's just better at not posting stupid things. =p
But you said so yourself before that you only play SEGA and Nintendo, and you hate gore-fests. So now, you're saying that your reviews will be un-biased? The way I see it, you'll end up reviewing only the games you like and end up giving them a better score.
 
TravisTouchdown said:
Tyeforce said:
Tom said:
Tyeforce said:
Rawburt said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepyou.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Um...no? I didn't even plan to say anything about our reviews. =p But we won't be as biased as most of the reviewers out there. (No, it won't be just fanboy rants. >_>)
It'll be fanboy rants.

At least, yours will be. Andrew maybe not. Unless you plan on "hiring" other people to help review things.
Ugh. Seriously? You don't think that I can put my fanboyness behind for a review? We haven't even started yet, so don't act like you can predict the future. >_>

Besides, I'm not the kind of fanboy who likes games just because they're a fanboy. I'm a fanboy because I like the games. Not the reverse.

And Andrew is just as much of a fanboy as I am. He's just better at not posting stupid things. =p
But you said so yourself before that you only play SEGA and Nintendo, and you hate gore-fests. So now, you're saying that your reviews will be un-biased? The way I see it, you'll end up reviewing only the games you like and end up giving them a better score.
Tye's review of [Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here]
[Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here] is truly a great game. [Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here] is the best thing I have ever played in my life. It has all my favorite characters, and some waggle!

I rate it 11/10!
 
Yetiman15 said:
Tyeforce said:
Yetiman15 said:
Why bring up a game that hasn't come out yet?
What are we even arguing over? I'm just saying that for it to be unanimous EVERYONE would have to be in complete agreement. You and I both like it more than PH but there are reviewers out there and other people on there (some of which are posting on this thread) that believe it just isn't as good.
I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I'm not going to argue it.
That's why I made sure I said "pretty much" and "almost" unanimous, not just "unanimous". >_>
And that's why it got a lower score from a different source because it isn't unanimous as you just said. It's not that you're wrong in saying that the game should be considered better, but you have to realize that they aren't wrong in what they say either, there's no bias it's just there opinion.
I haven't seen a single review that said that Phantom Hourglass was better. The reviewers just ignore their previous scores when scoring sequels, and they end up being hypocritical by saying that the sequel is better, yet giving it a lower score. >_>
 
Nevermore said:
TravisTouchdown said:
Tyeforce said:
Tom said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepyou.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
It'll be fanboy rants.

At least, yours will be. Andrew maybe not. Unless you plan on "hiring" other people to help review things.
Ugh. Seriously? You don't think that I can put my fanboyness behind for a review? We haven't even started yet, so don't act like you can predict the future. >_>

Besides, I'm not the kind of fanboy who likes games just because they're a fanboy. I'm a fanboy because I like the games. Not the reverse.

And Andrew is just as much of a fanboy as I am. He's just better at not posting stupid things. =p
But you said so yourself before that you only play SEGA and Nintendo, and you hate gore-fests. So now, you're saying that your reviews will be un-biased? The way I see it, you'll end up reviewing only the games you like and end up giving them a better score.
Tye's review of [Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here]
[Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here] is truly a great game. [Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here] is the best thing I have ever played in my life. It has all my favorite characters, and some waggle!

I rate it 11/10!
Yeah...no. >_>
 
Tyeforce said:
Yetiman15 said:
Tyeforce said:
Yetiman15 said:
Why bring up a game that hasn't come out yet?
What are we even arguing over? I'm just saying that for it to be unanimous EVERYONE would have to be in complete agreement. You and I both like it more than PH but there are reviewers out there and other people on there (some of which are posting on this thread) that believe it just isn't as good.
I don't know why it wouldn't be, but I'm not going to argue it.
That's why I made sure I said "pretty much" and "almost" unanimous, not just "unanimous". >_>
And that's why it got a lower score from a different source because it isn't unanimous as you just said. It's not that you're wrong in saying that the game should be considered better, but you have to realize that they aren't wrong in what they say either, there's no bias it's just there opinion.
I haven't seen a single review that said that Phantom Hourglass was better. The reviewers just ignore their previous scores when scoring sequels, and they end up being hypocritical by saying that the sequel is better, yet giving it a lower score. >_>
It can still be better with a lower score.

1st game is okay. gets an 8
2nd game is revealed, millions of fanboys drool
2nd game comes out, millions of fanboys shat bricks.
2nd game is reviewed by place with non-fanboys, they liked the first, but the second was not as good as anticipated.
2nd game gets 7.5
Millions of fanboys mourn
 
Tyeforce said:
Nevermore said:
TravisTouchdown said:
Tyeforce said:
Tom said:
Quoting limited to 5 levels deepyou.
One of the freedoms in America is freedom of speech, and along with that is opinion. no More Heroes (1) had reviews which made it look like crap<small>Which is exactly what Andrew and I plan on doing.
</small>
Ugh. Seriously? You don't think that I can put my fanboyness behind for a review? We haven't even started yet, so don't act like you can predict the future. >_>

Besides, I'm not the kind of fanboy who likes games just because they're a fanboy. I'm a fanboy because I like the games. Not the reverse.

And Andrew is just as much of a fanboy as I am. He's just better at not posting stupid things. =p
But you said so yourself before that you only play SEGA and Nintendo, and you hate gore-fests. So now, you're saying that your reviews will be un-biased? The way I see it, you'll end up reviewing only the games you like and end up giving them a better score.
Tye's review of [Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here]
[Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here] is truly a great game. [Insert non-violent, family friendly party game with Mario or Sonic characters playable here] is the best thing I have ever played in my life. It has all my favorite characters, and some waggle!

I rate it 11/10!
Yeah...no. >_>
Yeah.....yes.
 
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