Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

[Arstotzkan]

In that case I would become even more suspicious, because you are trying to shift the attention to me over a baseless accusation, so maybe you in fact have something to hide. If the roles were reversed, I would laugh it off and prove my innocence. But at the moment is really hard to blame someone, since nothing has really happened yet, all have been really nice, so idk.

we're squeaky clean

I've got A Few Thoughts on this but going one at a time. So first: say the roles were reversed and I voted you. How would you prove your innocence?

 

[Ace Marvel]

we're squeaky clean

I've got A Few Thoughts on this but going one at a time. So first: say the roles were reversed and I voted you. How would you prove your innocence?

Danganronpa style! with evidence. There are 3 ways to express your self: Pathos (emotions) , Logos (Logic) , and Ethos (Character), I would use all the evidence to persuade others that I didn't did the crime, or if I did, that I'm not the bigger threat.

 

[Antonio]

To be honest, it makes sense that mafia would go after DinoTown. They did amazingly well last game.

 

[epona]

To be honest, it makes sense that mafia would go after DinoTown. They did amazingly well last game.

can't tell whether this is backtracking to distance yourself from a potential wagon, trying to seem pro-town by adding an 'i mean idk' clause to your comments on dinotown, or actual genuine uncertainty

 

[Antonio]

can't tell whether this is backtracking to distance yourself from a potential wagon, trying to seem pro-town by adding an 'i mean idk' clause to your comments on dinotown, or actual genuine uncertainty

There's no back tracking in my statement, I just feel there's too many people on DinoTown and we should be putting pressure on everyone during day 1. I just find it weird that all the discussion is about Dinotown.

Scum benefit from the lack of pressure and the lack of discussion of other people. There hasn't been much discussion on other people. Everyone is a suspect and based on last game behavior, I believe no one should be universally town read and everyone should be a suspect no matter what. Shawo went under the radar because everyone there townread him and I don't think that should happen again.

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DinoTown also did really well last game. I feel like mafia may see them as a threat.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Danganronpa style! with evidence. There are 3 ways to express your self: Pathos (emotions) , Logos (Logic) , and Ethos (Character), I would use all the evidence to persuade others that I didn't did the crime, or if I did, that I'm not the bigger threat.

I'm looking for something more concrete. I know how making arguments and cases work, but if I vote you right now, what pathos, logos, and ethos do you use?

 

[bell account]

voltairnism and bell account (esp voltairnism) have been hovering a bit without contributing anything original but i think it's probably too early to say whether that's AI or not

did my take on trundle and co not count as an original contribution

I suppose that's understandable. Still, there's something different about you that I can't pinpoint.

scum

at this point "im getting town vibes from trundle" is just mafia's easy way to try to show they're town

probably the correct read

Scum benefit from the lack of pressure and the lack of discussion of other people. There hasn't been much discussion on other people. Everyone is a suspect and based on last game behavior, I believe no one should be universally town read and everyone should be a suspect no matter what. Shawo went under the radar because everyone there townread him and I don't think that should happen again.

ill ignore the fact that you just shaded dino earlier and now youre complaining that theres too much suspicion on them
it sounds like youre offering this up as reasoning for suspicions which id argue is mostly baseless

 

[DinoTown]

scum

Are you calling me or Antonio scum?
Just looking for clarification

 

[Antonio]

ill ignore the fact that you just shaded dino earlier and now youre complaining that theres too much suspicion on them
it sounds like youre offering this up as reasoning for suspicions which id argue is mostly baseless

I stated my suspicions on someone then said we should be talking about other people so I must be a hypocrite?

No, I stick by my suspisions but we should be talking about other people as well. Also, if you don't think we should be talking about other people and keep the discussion on DinoTown, just say it. Don't put out there that I am some hypocrite when I said we should be talking about other people, not that we should not be talking about DinoTown.

 

[bell account]

youre suggesting the discussion equivalent of trying to artificially engineer wagons "for the sake of wagonomics"

 

[Antonio]

youre suggesting the discussion equivalent of trying to artificially engineer wagons "for the sake of wagonomics"

Listen, if you don't think we should be talking about other people, go ahead and say it. You clearly haven't stated why we shouldn't be talking about other people.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Listen, if you don't think we should be talking about other people, go ahead and say it. You clearly haven't stated why we shouldn't be talking about other people.

I'm not disagreeing with wanting to look at people other than Dino, but if you feel that way, bring someone to the table Antonio.

 

[Ace Marvel]

I'm looking for something more concrete. I know how making arguments and cases work, but if I vote you right now, what pathos, logos, and ethos do you use?

We are getting ahead of ourselves, guess will have to play to find out.

 

[DinoTown]

If you think there's more that needs to be said about me, Bell, by all means, go ahead and say it. I'm interested in what you think of me.

 

[bell account]

you shouldnt be trying to control the flow of discussion if people want to talk about dinotown then thats what should be discussed theres no "talk about everyone equally" law or anything and if you try to force that content becomes engineered hence the parallel to engineered wagons
it doesnt help

 

[DinoTown]

you shouldnt be trying to control the flow of discussion if people want to talk about dinotown then thats what should be discussed theres no "talk about everyone equally" law or anything and if you try to force that content becomes engineered hence the parallel to engineered wagons
it doesnt help

If you have something to say about me, please say it.

 

[Antonio]

you shouldnt be trying to control the flow of discussion if people want to talk about dinotown then thats what should be discussed theres no "talk about everyone equally" law or anything and if you try to force that content becomes engineered hence the parallel to engineered wagons
it doesnt help

I'm not controlling the discussion. I don't know who we even should talk about besides DinoTown. All I am saying is that universally town reading someone who maybe could be scum only helps them so we should consider everyone a suspect no matter what. I am also saying that the discussion has been on DinoTown for quite awhile and I'm not say we should not talk about Dino, I am saying we should talk about others aswell because Mafia benefits from a lack of discussion on other people.

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I'm not disagreeing with wanting to look at people other than Dino, but if you feel that way, bring someone to the table Antonio.

I'm not sure. I find it weird that Bell is stating that I said we shouldn't talk about Dino when I said we should talk about everyone (which includes dino) because mafia benefits from the lack of discussion of other people.

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If you have something to say about me, please say it.

Don't piggy back on me, please. I still think we should be talking about you but there should be room for discussion on other people because mafia benefits from only having a few people on the table.

 

[bell account]

If you have something to say about me, please say it.

you seem self obsessed
like any reasonable mafia player youre slightly more concerned with clout than winning the game, the urge to parade how well you did last game is probably irresistible to you which is understandable because good games tend to stick with you
the "theres something different about you" or "theyre giving me scum vibes" arguments irritate me to no end but ive yet to find that this logic is alignment indicative at all
at best i have a vague town read on you but the more important thing to me is how useful discourse around these aspects have been for reading other slots, like antonio, their suspicion of you feels entirely based on the rest of the threads pressure against you and their inability to put into exact words anything that makes them suspect you doesnt look good to me

 

[Arstotzkan]

We are getting ahead of ourselves, guess will have to play to find out.

See this is my problem; I feel like you're 'preparing to play' rather than actually playing.

You're not really actively trying to 'figure anything out' right now. Rather than attempting to glean intent from your posts, it's felt like you're playing passive and only responding to what's asked. That's why I was asking about how you generally handle things; you clearly think there most be a logical backing behind a vote, yet rather than weigh in on the scumminess/lack thereof of individuals, you've just been floating along or responding to me specifically. I get there hasn't been a lot in thread yet, but even still, there has definitely been things to comment on that you haven't (such as Trundle and Dino).

 

[Antonio]

you seem self obsessed
like any reasonable mafia player youre slightly more concerned with clout than winning the game, the urge to parade how well you did last game is probably irresistible to you which is understandable because good games tend to stick with you
the "theres something different about you" or "theyre giving me scum vibes" arguments irritate me to no end but ive yet to find that this logic is alignment indicative at all
at best i have a vague town read on you but the more important thing to me is how useful discourse around these aspects have been for reading other slots, like antonio, their suspicion of you feels entirely based on the rest of the threads pressure against you and their inability to put into exact words anything that makes them suspect you doesnt look good to me

I think DinoTown has been on the defense the entire game but barely has done anything to push and that is where'd my suspicions came from I just didn't know how to properly phrase it at the time. I also agree she has more of an ego compared to last game even though this is her second game.

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She's more defense and no offense is what I am saying. However, I don't know how her offense game differs from the last game.