Some help, please

[Ciaran]

I don't know what type of sermons your pastor is giving, but then again, I didn't go and tell you what they did, either.

You said they were spoonfeeding me, and well, Im not the most religious guy in the world, and I completely disagree with somrthings the pope says.

But, still if you expect to be pleased with everything you learn in your religion, youd need to start your own one.
Youre expected to take everything you learn with a pinch of salt, because if you sit there and take it word for word, the odds are youll find it hard to believe

A lesson = spoonfeeding

You seem to think it's a complex form of teaching and an insult as well, when it isn't either.

Also, it seems like you think that I just absolutely MUST abide by every single standard and believe every single thing a religion tells me to in order to follow it, when really it holds no authority over me in that respect and I am free to make my own conclusions about the Bible and its message.

Please, stop assuming I'm just hating on religion, I'm hating on most religious people.

I think spoonfeeding is neither a complex form of teaching or an insult.
I think its being told what to think on a topic that has no real 'right' meaning.

I said that I dont follow everything the church says, but I still go there to learn, even if I think differantly about some things than the priest does.

But, I can still call myself a christian and Im proud to be one and I have morals and if that isnt what the church wants, then Ive just been assuming the wrong thing for a good long time now.

 

[-C*-]

I don't know what type of sermons your pastor is giving, but then again, I didn't go and tell you what they did, either.

You said they were spoonfeeding me, and well, Im not the most religious guy in the world, and I completely disagree with somrthings the pope says.

But, still if you expect to be pleased with everything you learn in your religion, youd need to start your own one.
Youre expected to take everything you learn with a pinch of salt, because if you sit there and take it word for word, the odds are youll find it hard to believe

A lesson = spoonfeeding

You seem to think it's a complex form of teaching and an insult as well, when it isn't either.

Also, it seems like you think that I just absolutely MUST abide by every single standard and believe every single thing a religion tells me to in order to follow it, when really it holds no authority over me in that respect and I am free to make my own conclusions about the Bible and its message.

Please, stop assuming I'm just hating on religion, I'm hating on most religious people.

I think spoonfeeding is neither a complex form of teaching or an insult.
I think its being told what to think on a topic that has no real 'right' meaning.

I said that I dont follow everything the church says, but I still go there to learn, even if I think differantly about some things than the priest does.

But, I can still call myself a christian and Im proud to be one and I have morals and if that isnt what the church wants, then Ive just been assuming the wrong thing for a good long time now.

Which is a lesson on the Bible, which is ambiguous as *censored.3.0*! Congratulations, you proved my point for me.

I said nothing about morals, in fact, I believe you've missed my point entirely.

Most religion inadvertently causes closed-mindedness (I doubt that's a word but you get my meaning) and causes people to develop the inability to process the Bible on their own.

I'm still a Christian since a majority of my beliefs fall under the branch of Christianity, but I found that out on my own. It was hard, yes, especially with 14 years of schooling on what to believe under my belt.

EDIT: And if you disagree with what the priests preach, then maybe it's time for a new way of approaching things?

 

[Ciaran]

I don't know what type of sermons your pastor is giving, but then again, I didn't go and tell you what they did, either.

You said they were spoonfeeding me, and well, Im not the most religious guy in the world, and I completely disagree with somrthings the pope says.

But, still if you expect to be pleased with everything you learn in your religion, youd need to start your own one.
Youre expected to take everything you learn with a pinch of salt, because if you sit there and take it word for word, the odds are youll find it hard to believe

A lesson = spoonfeeding

You seem to think it's a complex form of teaching and an insult as well, when it isn't either.

Also, it seems like you think that I just absolutely MUST abide by every single standard and believe every single thing a religion tells me to in order to follow it, when really it holds no authority over me in that respect and I am free to make my own conclusions about the Bible and its message.

Please, stop assuming I'm just hating on religion, I'm hating on most religious people.

I think spoonfeeding is neither a complex form of teaching or an insult.
I think its being told what to think on a topic that has no real 'right' meaning.

I said that I dont follow everything the church says, but I still go there to learn, even if I think differantly about some things than the priest does.

But, I can still call myself a christian and Im proud to be one and I have morals and if that isnt what the church wants, then Ive just been assuming the wrong thing for a good long time now.

Which is a lesson on the Bible, which is ambiguous as *censored.3.0*! Congratulations, you proved my point for me.

I said nothing about morals, in fact, I believe you've missed my point entirely.

Most religion inadvertently causes closed-mindedness (I doubt that's a word but you get my meaning) and causes people to develop the inability to process the Bible on their own.

I'm still a Christian since a majority of my beliefs fall under the branch of Christianity, but I found that out on my own. It was hard, yes, especially with 14 years of schooling on what to believe under my belt.

EDIT: And if you disagree with what the priests preach, then maybe it's time for a new way of approaching things?

I think I get what youre saying now...
Weve really gone around the point to get here...

But yeah... If you think that what youre being thaught is wrong you should definately find a differant way of finding religion.

And I dont disagree with what the priests teach, I was trying to say that some verses in the bible could have hundreds of meanings, depending on how you interpret them and that sometimes the priests dont see things the same way I do.

But back to coffeebean, I think she should try going to church for a while, just to see if she can relate to what theyre saying.
Shes never been taught religion before, so it would be good for her, just to really see if its that far out

 

[bittermeat]

I think she should try going to church for a while, just to see if she can relate to what theyre saying.
Shes never been taught religion before, so it would be good for her, just to really see if its that far out

She's agnostic, damnit.

 

[-C*-]

I think she should try going to church for a while, just to see if she can relate to what theyre saying.
Shes never been taught religion before, so it would be good for her, just to really see if its that far out

She's agnostic, damnit.

I've given up, you should quit while you're ahead.

 

[Toonlinksmaster]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepI didn't go and tell you what they did, either.

A lesson = spoonfeeding

You seem to think it's a complex form of teaching and an insult as well, when it isn't either.

Also, it seems like you think that I just absolutely MUST abide by every single standard and believe every single thing a religion tells me to in order to follow it, when really it holds no authority over me in that respect and I am free to make my own conclusions about the Bible and its message.

Please, stop assuming I'm just hating on religion, I'm hating on most religious people.

I think spoonfeeding is neither a complex form of teaching or an insult.
I think its being told what to think on a topic that has no real 'right' meaning.

I said that I dont follow everything the church says, but I still go there to learn, even if I think differantly about some things than the priest does.

But, I can still call myself a christian and Im proud to be one and I have morals and if that isnt what the church wants, then Ive just been assuming the wrong thing for a good long time now.

Which is a lesson on the Bible, which is ambiguous as *censored.3.0*! Congratulations, you proved my point for me.

I said nothing about morals, in fact, I believe you've missed my point entirely.

Most religion inadvertently causes closed-mindedness (I doubt that's a word but you get my meaning) and causes people to develop the inability to process the Bible on their own.

I'm still a Christian since a majority of my beliefs fall under the branch of Christianity, but I found that out on my own. It was hard, yes, especially with 14 years of schooling on what to believe under my belt.

EDIT: And if you disagree with what the priests preach, then maybe it's time for a new way of approaching things?

I think I get what youre saying now...
Weve really gone around the point to get here...

But yeah... If you think that what youre being thaught is wrong you should definately find a differant way of finding religion.

And I dont disagree with what the priests teach, I was trying to say that some verses in the bible could have hundreds of meanings, depending on how you interpret them and that sometimes the priests dont see things the same way I do.

But back to coffeebean, I think she should try going to church for a while, just to see if she can relate to what theyre saying.
Shes never been taught religion before, so it would be good for her, just to really see if its that far out

[/flamewar]

Finally.
What did Coffeh decide 2 do?

 

[Ciaran]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepI didn't go and tell you what they did, either.

I think spoonfeeding is neither a complex form of teaching or an insult.
I think its being told what to think on a topic that has no real 'right' meaning.

I said that I dont follow everything the church says, but I still go there to learn, even if I think differantly about some things than the priest does.

But, I can still call myself a christian and Im proud to be one and I have morals and if that isnt what the church wants, then Ive just been assuming the wrong thing for a good long time now.

Which is a lesson on the Bible, which is ambiguous as *censored.3.0*! Congratulations, you proved my point for me.

I said nothing about morals, in fact, I believe you've missed my point entirely.

Most religion inadvertently causes closed-mindedness (I doubt that's a word but you get my meaning) and causes people to develop the inability to process the Bible on their own.

I'm still a Christian since a majority of my beliefs fall under the branch of Christianity, but I found that out on my own. It was hard, yes, especially with 14 years of schooling on what to believe under my belt.

EDIT: And if you disagree with what the priests preach, then maybe it's time for a new way of approaching things?

I think I get what youre saying now...
Weve really gone around the point to get here...

But yeah... If you think that what youre being thaught is wrong you should definately find a differant way of finding religion.

And I dont disagree with what the priests teach, I was trying to say that some verses in the bible could have hundreds of meanings, depending on how you interpret them and that sometimes the priests dont see things the same way I do.

But back to coffeebean, I think she should try going to church for a while, just to see if she can relate to what theyre saying.
Shes never been taught religion before, so it would be good for her, just to really see if its that far out

[/flamewar]

Finally.
What did Coffeh decide 2 do?[/quote]It wasnt a flamewar, flamewars are stupid arguements that involve people insulting each other, this was an arguement

And what did coffee do???

 

[coffeebean!]

She said shes never been thought religion before, and its the priests job to make her believe it, so -C-*, maybe you can stop telling her not to believe in it...

First of all, when did I say I was never taught religion before?
Just because I've only gone to church a few times in my life doesn't mean I was never taught it. I'm pretty sure I know the basics of what religion is and what it teaches.
And that's why I'm agnostic. Because I don't believe in it.
Don't you think I would've had to known what I wasn't believing in to not believe in it. -__-

Second of all, Cloak never told me to not believe in it. Didn't you like read the thread?
No one told me to not believe in it. I don't believe in it, I'm agnostic.

I was just asking what I could do to get myself out of having to go to church and about 90% of the people here told me just to go. That was totally what I wasn't going for.

I've already made up my mind though. And thanks to that 10% that actually helped.

 

[-C*-]

She said shes never been thought religion before, and its the priests job to make her believe it, so -C-*, maybe you can stop telling her not to believe in it...

First of all, when did I say I was never taught religion before?
Just because I've only gone to church a few times in my life doesn't mean I was never taught it. I'm pretty sure I know the basics of what religion is and what it teaches.
And that's why I'm agnostic. Because I don't believe in it.
Don't you think I would've had to known what I wasn't believing in to not believe in it. -__-

Second of all, Cloak never told me to not believe in it. Didn't you like read the thread?
No one told me to not believe in it. I don't believe in it, I'm agnostic.

I was just asking what I could do to get myself out of having to go to church and about 90% of the people here told me just to go. That was totally what I wasn't going for.

I've already made up my mind though. And thanks to that 10% that actually helped.

<3?

 

[Ciaran]

Well, w/e, this thread's done a lot of damage already so Im just gonna shuttup...

 

[coffeebean!]

She said shes never been thought religion before, and its the priests job to make her believe it, so -C-*, maybe you can stop telling her not to believe in it...

First of all, when did I say I was never taught religion before?
Just because I've only gone to church a few times in my life doesn't mean I was never taught it. I'm pretty sure I know the basics of what religion is and what it teaches.
And that's why I'm agnostic. Because I don't believe in it.
Don't you think I would've had to known what I wasn't believing in to not believe in it. -__-

Second of all, Cloak never told me to not believe in it. Didn't you like read the thread?
No one told me to not believe in it. I don't believe in it, I'm agnostic.

I was just asking what I could do to get myself out of having to go to church and about 90% of the people here told me just to go. That was totally what I wasn't going for.

I've already made up my mind though. And thanks to that 10% that actually helped.

<3?

<3

:>

 

[-C*-]

She said shes never been thought religion before, and its the priests job to make her believe it, so -C-*, maybe you can stop telling her not to believe in it...

First of all, when did I say I was never taught religion before?
Just because I've only gone to church a few times in my life doesn't mean I was never taught it. I'm pretty sure I know the basics of what religion is and what it teaches.
And that's why I'm agnostic. Because I don't believe in it.
Don't you think I would've had to known what I wasn't believing in to not believe in it. -__-

Second of all, Cloak never told me to not believe in it. Didn't you like read the thread?
No one told me to not believe in it. I don't believe in it, I'm agnostic.

I was just asking what I could do to get myself out of having to go to church and about 90% of the people here told me just to go. That was totally what I wasn't going for.

I've already made up my mind though. And thanks to that 10% that actually helped.

<3?

<3

:>

<3

:>

 

[Toonlinksmaster]

She said shes never been thought religion before, and its the priests job to make her believe it, so -C-*, maybe you can stop telling her not to believe in it...

First of all, when did I say I was never taught religion before?
Just because I've only gone to church a few times in my life doesn't mean I was never taught it. I'm pretty sure I know the basics of what religion is and what it teaches.
And that's why I'm agnostic. Because I don't believe in it.
Don't you think I would've had to known what I wasn't believing in to not believe in it. -__-

Second of all, Cloak never told me to not believe in it. Didn't you like read the thread?
No one told me to not believe in it. I don't believe in it, I'm agnostic.

I was just asking what I could do to get myself out of having to go to church and about 90% of the people here told me just to go. That was totally what I wasn't going for.

I've already made up my mind though. And thanks to that 10% that actually helped.

Well, could've told you ways to not go, (besides lying, which I figured was obvious)
but the other ways could've had some pretty...big consequences.....

It's happened to someone I know, and it wasn't pretty. X_X

 

[coffeebean!]

She said shes never been thought religion before, and its the priests job to make her believe it, so -C-*, maybe you can stop telling her not to believe in it...

First of all, when did I say I was never taught religion before?
Just because I've only gone to church a few times in my life doesn't mean I was never taught it. I'm pretty sure I know the basics of what religion is and what it teaches.
And that's why I'm agnostic. Because I don't believe in it.
Don't you think I would've had to known what I wasn't believing in to not believe in it. -__-

Second of all, Cloak never told me to not believe in it. Didn't you like read the thread?
No one told me to not believe in it. I don't believe in it, I'm agnostic.

I was just asking what I could do to get myself out of having to go to church and about 90% of the people here told me just to go. That was totally what I wasn't going for.

I've already made up my mind though. And thanks to that 10% that actually helped.

Well, could've told you ways to not go, (besides lying, which I figured was obvious)
but the other ways could've had some pretty...big consequences.....

It's happened to someone I know, and it wasn't pretty. X_X[/quote]Well everyone is different.
And like I've already stated I've made up my mind.
I'll go for 2 days or so just for my parents and then stop.

 

[Toonlinksmaster]

She said shes never been thought religion before, and its the priests job to make her believe it, so -C-*, maybe you can stop telling her not to believe in it...

First of all, when did I say I was never taught religion before?
Just because I've only gone to church a few times in my life doesn't mean I was never taught it. I'm pretty sure I know the basics of what religion is and what it teaches.
And that's why I'm agnostic. Because I don't believe in it.
Don't you think I would've had to known what I wasn't believing in to not believe in it. -__-

Second of all, Cloak never told me to not believe in it. Didn't you like read the thread?
No one told me to not believe in it. I don't believe in it, I'm agnostic.

I was just asking what I could do to get myself out of having to go to church and about 90% of the people here told me just to go. That was totally what I wasn't going for.

I've already made up my mind though. And thanks to that 10% that actually helped.

Well, could've told you ways to not go, (besides lying, which I figured was obvious)
but the other ways could've had some pretty...big consequences.....

It's happened to someone I know, and it wasn't pretty. X_X

Well everyone is different.
And like I've already stated I've made up my mind.
I'll go for 2 days or so just for my parents and then stop.[/quote]Happy face.


Congrats,

but who knows?
Maybe you'll meet someone awesome there and go just to see them.

 

[coffeebean!]

She said shes never been thought religion before, and its the priests job to make her believe it, so -C-*, maybe you can stop telling her not to believe in it...

First of all, when did I say I was never taught religion before?
Just because I've only gone to church a few times in my life doesn't mean I was never taught it. I'm pretty sure I know the basics of what religion is and what it teaches.
And that's why I'm agnostic. Because I don't believe in it.
Don't you think I would've had to known what I wasn't believing in to not believe in it. -__-

Second of all, Cloak never told me to not believe in it. Didn't you like read the thread?
No one told me to not believe in it. I don't believe in it, I'm agnostic.

I was just asking what I could do to get myself out of having to go to church and about 90% of the people here told me just to go. That was totally what I wasn't going for.

I've already made up my mind though. And thanks to that 10% that actually helped.

Well, could've told you ways to not go, (besides lying, which I figured was obvious)
but the other ways could've had some pretty...big consequences.....

It's happened to someone I know, and it wasn't pretty. X_X

Well everyone is different.
And like I've already stated I've made up my mind.
I'll go for 2 days or so just for my parents and then stop.[/quote]Happy face.


Congrats,

but who knows?
Maybe you'll meet someone awesome there and go just to see them. [/quote]Nah.
All of the cute guys go to another church. :<
xD

 

[Toonlinksmaster]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deep

Well, could've told you ways to not go, (besides lying, which I figured was obvious)
but the other ways could've had some pretty...big consequences.....

It's happened to someone I know, and it wasn't pretty. X_X

Well everyone is different.
And like I've already stated I've made up my mind.
I'll go for 2 days or so just for my parents and then stop.

Happy face.


Congrats,

but who knows?
Maybe you'll meet someone awesome there and go just to see them. [/quote]Nah.
All of the cute guys go to another church. :<
xD[/quote]:O

I thought you were...

Oh well.

 

[coffeebean!]

Shh...<__<

 

[Toonlinksmaster]

Shh...<__<

YESSIR!
Yes ma'am.

So...this thread is Left4Dead now right?

 

[-C*-]

Shh...<__<

YESSIR!
Yes ma'am.

So...this thread is Left4Dead now right?[/quote]BOOMER.