Some help, please

[Fabioisonfire]

I'll quote a film.

"God has got this hole in your heart, and you can fill that with whatever you want to- drugs, sex, money, but it'll never fill it-"
"Can I try?"

That's how I live. I am my own God. I'm going to do whatever the hell I want when I'm on this Earth and live my life to the fullest. Hey, if there really is a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do contradict themselves, actually.

Okay thank you for your input.

You're way too kind. Assert yourself, tell me what you're actually thinking.

 

[KingofHearts]

I'll quote a film.

"God has got this hole in your heart, and you can fill that with whatever you want to- drugs, sex, money, but it'll never fill it-"
"Can I try?"

That's how I live. I am my own God. I'm going to do whatever the hell I want when I'm on this Earth and live my life to the fullest. Hey, if there really is a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do contradict themselves, actually.

Okay thank you for your input.

You're way too kind. Assert yourself, tell me what you're actually thinking.

Well, I'm thinking that you are set in your beliefs and I am set in mine. I respect your beliefs and what you have to say.

 

[Fabioisonfire]

I'll quote a film.

"God has got this hole in your heart, and you can fill that with whatever you want to- drugs, sex, money, but it'll never fill it-"
"Can I try?"

That's how I live. I am my own God. I'm going to do whatever the hell I want when I'm on this Earth and live my life to the fullest. Hey, if there really is a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do contradict themselves, actually.

Okay thank you for your input.

You're way too kind. Assert yourself, tell me what you're actually thinking.

Well, I'm thinking that you are set in your beliefs and I am set in mine. I respect your beliefs and what you have to say.

You see, that's the thing about religion. We could argue until the cows come home, and at the end, we'd be in the exact same place we started.

 

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As far as you're concerned.

However, if I recall, there is a small bit about God have a select list of those that He saves and those He doesn't. :3

So you're saying this scripture contradicts itself?

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. (II Peter 3:9)

Scripture contradicts itself, yes, but I do not believe it is a flaw on God's part, merely a human error in writing it down.

The people who wrote that book didn't even know Jesus, first of all. They weren't eyewitness to *censored.2.0*.

Divine inspiration.

Also, by "that book" do you mean II Peter or the Bible as a whole?

 

[Fabioisonfire]

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So you're saying this scripture contradicts itself?

The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. (II Peter 3:9)

Scripture contradicts itself, yes, but I do not believe it is a flaw on God's part, merely a human error in writing it down.

The people who wrote that book didn't even know Jesus, first of all. They weren't eyewitness to *censored.2.0*.

Divine inspiration.

Also, by "that book" do you mean II Peter or the Bible as a whole?

Of course, divine inspiration...

And I meant the Bible.

 

[KingofHearts]

I'll quote a film.

"God has got this hole in your heart, and you can fill that with whatever you want to- drugs, sex, money, but it'll never fill it-"
"Can I try?"

That's how I live. I am my own God. I'm going to do whatever the hell I want when I'm on this Earth and live my life to the fullest. Hey, if there really is a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do contradict themselves, actually.

Okay thank you for your input.

You're way too kind. Assert yourself, tell me what you're actually thinking.

Well, I'm thinking that you are set in your beliefs and I am set in mine. I respect your beliefs and what you have to say.

You see, that's the thing about religion. We could argue until the cows come home, and at the end, we'd be in the exact same place we started.

I think that's what happens when you get two or more people who are set on their beliefs. This goes into politics, news, media... etc. If someone firmly believes something, they're going to back it up and defend what they believe or feel is right.

 

[Fabioisonfire]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepis a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do

You're way too kind. Assert yourself, tell me what you're actually thinking.

Well, I'm thinking that you are set in your beliefs and I am set in mine. I respect your beliefs and what you have to say.

You see, that's the thing about religion. We could argue until the cows come home, and at the end, we'd be in the exact same place we started.

I think that's what happens when you get two or more people who are set on their beliefs. This goes into politics, news, media... etc. If someone firmly believes something, they're going to back it up and defend what they believe or feel is right.

My thing with religion is this.

You're not dumb, you're a smart person. How can a smart person believe in the talking snake, and the burning bush, and people living to be 300 years old, and nonsense stories like Jonah and the whale, and the like?

 

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Scripture contradicts itself, yes, but I do not believe it is a flaw on God's part, merely a human error in writing it down.

The people who wrote that book didn't even know Jesus, first of all. They weren't eyewitness to *censored.2.0*.

Divine inspiration.

Also, by "that book" do you mean II Peter or the Bible as a whole?

Of course, divine inspiration...

And I meant the Bible.

Mmm, been awhile, but if I recall the apostles were considered apostles because they were taught by Jesus Himself.

But then again, He's not real, is He?

 

[Fabioisonfire]

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The people who wrote that book didn't even know Jesus, first of all. They weren't eyewitness to *censored.2.0*.

Divine inspiration.

Also, by "that book" do you mean II Peter or the Bible as a whole?

Of course, divine inspiration...

And I meant the Bible.

Mmm, been awhile, but if I recall the apostles were considered apostles because they were taught by Jesus Himself.

But then again, He's not real, is He?

The apostles didn't actually write the Bible, I hope you know. The Bible, in fact, has been rewritten and retranslated countless times- each time adding/subtracting something.

And if by 'He', you mean God- then no. If by 'He' you mean Jesus Christ of Nazereth, then it's a maybe. There's no proof whatsoever that he existed. (Other than the fairy tale that is the Bible, which doesn't count as proof.)

 

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Divine inspiration.

Also, by "that book" do you mean II Peter or the Bible as a whole?

Of course, divine inspiration...

And I meant the Bible.

Mmm, been awhile, but if I recall the apostles were considered apostles because they were taught by Jesus Himself.

But then again, He's not real, is He?

The apostles didn't actually write the Bible, I hope you know. The Bible, in fact, has been rewritten and retranslated countless times- each time adding/subtracting something.

And if by 'He', you mean God- then no. If by 'He' you mean Jesus Christ of Nazereth, then it's a maybe. There's no proof whatsoever that he existed.

Hahah, well done on stating your belief as fact.

Yes, it has been tampered with, which is why it should not be trusted or given any form of authority.

 

[KingofHearts]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepis a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do

Well, I'm thinking that you are set in your beliefs and I am set in mine. I respect your beliefs and what you have to say.

You see, that's the thing about religion. We could argue until the cows come home, and at the end, we'd be in the exact same place we started.

I think that's what happens when you get two or more people who are set on their beliefs. This goes into politics, news, media... etc. If someone firmly believes something, they're going to back it up and defend what they believe or feel is right.

My thing with religion is this.

You're not dumb, you're a smart person. How can a smart person believe in the talking snake, and the burning bush, and people living to be 300 years old, and nonsense stories like Jonah and the whale, and the like?

Faith comes from knowledge. I believe in God because I've had an encounter with Him in my personal life. The things He has done in my life alone for the time I've known Him (10 months) is more than enough proof for me to believe.

When your life changes right before your eyes, and things are getting better... you'd want to believe.

Of course this is my personal experience so I don't know if its legit. People want facts and tangible proof... but I want hope, love and peace.

To sum it up, its God.

 

[Fabioisonfire]

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Of course, divine inspiration...

And I meant the Bible.

Mmm, been awhile, but if I recall the apostles were considered apostles because they were taught by Jesus Himself.

But then again, He's not real, is He?

The apostles didn't actually write the Bible, I hope you know. The Bible, in fact, has been rewritten and retranslated countless times- each time adding/subtracting something.

And if by 'He', you mean God- then no. If by 'He' you mean Jesus Christ of Nazereth, then it's a maybe. There's no proof whatsoever that he existed.

Hahah, well done on stating your belief as fact.

Yes, it has been tampered with, which is why it should not be trusted or given any form of authority.

Those weren't my beliefs, they were facts. Which I believe.

 

[Fabioisonfire]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepis a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do

You see, that's the thing about religion. We could argue until the cows come home, and at the end, we'd be in the exact same place we started.

I think that's what happens when you get two or more people who are set on their beliefs. This goes into politics, news, media... etc. If someone firmly believes something, they're going to back it up and defend what they believe or feel is right.

My thing with religion is this.

You're not dumb, you're a smart person. How can a smart person believe in the talking snake, and the burning bush, and people living to be 300 years old, and nonsense stories like Jonah and the whale, and the like?

Faith comes from knowledge. I believe in God because I've had an encounter with Him in my personal life. The things He has done in my life alone for the time I've known Him (10 months) is more than enough proof for me to believe.

When your life changes right before your eyes, and things are getting better... you'd want to believe.

Of course this is my personal experience so I don't know if its legit. People want facts and tangible proof... but I want hope, love and peace.

To sum it up, its God.

You see, faith isn't good enough for me. Believing in something with no proof isn't good or anything to brag about, honestly.

Faith is making a virtue out of not thinking.

 

[KingofHearts]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepis a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do

I think that's what happens when you get two or more people who are set on their beliefs. This goes into politics, news, media... etc. If someone firmly believes something, they're going to back it up and defend what they believe or feel is right.

My thing with religion is this.

You're not dumb, you're a smart person. How can a smart person believe in the talking snake, and the burning bush, and people living to be 300 years old, and nonsense stories like Jonah and the whale, and the like?

Faith comes from knowledge. I believe in God because I've had an encounter with Him in my personal life. The things He has done in my life alone for the time I've known Him (10 months) is more than enough proof for me to believe.

When your life changes right before your eyes, and things are getting better... you'd want to believe.

Of course this is my personal experience so I don't know if its legit. People want facts and tangible proof... but I want hope, love and peace.

To sum it up, its God.

You see, faith isn't good enough for me. Believing in something with no proof isn't good or anything to brag about, honestly.

Faith is making a virtue out of not thinking.

Then I must be ignorant. My heart was not to brag or boast, but to merely share why such a "smart person" like me believes in silly Bible stories.

 

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Mmm, been awhile, but if I recall the apostles were considered apostles because they were taught by Jesus Himself.

But then again, He's not real, is He?

The apostles didn't actually write the Bible, I hope you know. The Bible, in fact, has been rewritten and retranslated countless times- each time adding/subtracting something.

And if by 'He', you mean God- then no. If by 'He' you mean Jesus Christ of Nazereth, then it's a maybe. There's no proof whatsoever that he existed.

Hahah, well done on stating your belief as fact.

Yes, it has been tampered with, which is why it should not be trusted or given any form of authority.

Those weren't my beliefs, they were facts. Which I believe.

If they were facts, they wouldn't be contested as much as they are, would they?

 

[Fabioisonfire]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepis a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do

My thing with religion is this.

You're not dumb, you're a smart person. How can a smart person believe in the talking snake, and the burning bush, and people living to be 300 years old, and nonsense stories like Jonah and the whale, and the like?

Faith comes from knowledge. I believe in God because I've had an encounter with Him in my personal life. The things He has done in my life alone for the time I've known Him (10 months) is more than enough proof for me to believe.

When your life changes right before your eyes, and things are getting better... you'd want to believe.

Of course this is my personal experience so I don't know if its legit. People want facts and tangible proof... but I want hope, love and peace.

To sum it up, its God.

You see, faith isn't good enough for me. Believing in something with no proof isn't good or anything to brag about, honestly.

Faith is making a virtue out of not thinking.

Then I must be ignorant. My heart was not to brag or boast, but to merely share why such a "smart person" like me believes in silly Bible stories.

Yes, they are silly.

Here's a question for you. Do you think that if when you were a child, they told you that Jack and the Beanstalk was religion and Jonah and the Whale was a fairytale that when you grew up you'd be defending one over the other?

 

[Fabioisonfire]

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The apostles didn't actually write the Bible, I hope you know. The Bible, in fact, has been rewritten and retranslated countless times- each time adding/subtracting something.

And if by 'He', you mean God- then no. If by 'He' you mean Jesus Christ of Nazereth, then it's a maybe. There's no proof whatsoever that he existed.

Hahah, well done on stating your belief as fact.

Yes, it has been tampered with, which is why it should not be trusted or given any form of authority.

Those weren't my beliefs, they were facts. Which I believe.

If they were facts, they wouldn't be contested as much as they are, would they?

The only reason those facts are contested is by the church and nuts who believe in it, and you know that.

No scientist in the world is going to argue against it.

 

[KingofHearts]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepis a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do

Faith comes from knowledge. I believe in God because I've had an encounter with Him in my personal life. The things He has done in my life alone for the time I've known Him (10 months) is more than enough proof for me to believe.

When your life changes right before your eyes, and things are getting better... you'd want to believe.

Of course this is my personal experience so I don't know if its legit. People want facts and tangible proof... but I want hope, love and peace.

To sum it up, its God.

You see, faith isn't good enough for me. Believing in something with no proof isn't good or anything to brag about, honestly.

Faith is making a virtue out of not thinking.

Then I must be ignorant. My heart was not to brag or boast, but to merely share why such a "smart person" like me believes in silly Bible stories.

Yes, they are silly.

Here's a question for you. Do you think that if when you were a child, they told you that Jack and the Beanstalk was religion and Jonah and the Whale was a fairytale that when you grew up you'd be defending one over the other?

Children believe in anything they hear. I probably would've. But either way, I'd find out which is the truth eventually.

 

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Hahah, well done on stating your belief as fact.

Yes, it has been tampered with, which is why it should not be trusted or given any form of authority.

Those weren't my beliefs, they were facts. Which I believe.

If they were facts, they wouldn't be contested as much as they are, would they?

The only reason those facts are contested is by the church and nuts who believe in it, and you know that.

No scientist in the world is going to argue against it.

No, but if you had substantial proof of it, surely you would shut a large amount of them up.

I also don't see why you're forcing your beliefs on us when we obviously aren't going to be affected by it.

 

[Fabioisonfire]

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepis a God, then yeah, I'm screwed. But if there isn't, like I'm almost positive there isn't, I'll have had one hell of a life.

Living without faith is truly a luxury.

And the scriptures do

You see, faith isn't good enough for me. Believing in something with no proof isn't good or anything to brag about, honestly.

Faith is making a virtue out of not thinking.

Then I must be ignorant. My heart was not to brag or boast, but to merely share why such a "smart person" like me believes in silly Bible stories.

Yes, they are silly.

Here's a question for you. Do you think that if when you were a child, they told you that Jack and the Beanstalk was religion and Jonah and the Whale was a fairytale that when you grew up you'd be defending one over the other?

Children believe in anything they hear. I probably would've. But either way, I'd find out which is the truth eventually.

That wasn't my point. What I was trying to get across is that if you don't believe in things like Jack and the Beanstalk and Santa Claus, then how can you believe anything the Bible says?