Smash Bros Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U Discussion Thread

[Hyoshido]

Lucas' down throw is dumb as anything, but yeah, Lucas players have been getting annoying lately.

 

[Zigzag991]

Fixing the glitch.

 

[toadsworthy]

PEEKAY FY-AH

 

[Hyoshido]

Hey guys, has anyone entered a local tournament or anything of that sort? (Basically nothing online based)

I'm thinking of entering Birmingham's Electric Dojo in August but I god to honest feel nervous about the whole thing and dunno how I'd be able to keep calm during it, would that just perhaps just be a first time thing?

Any tips anyone would be able to give to keep calm about it? I just feel pressured on meeting new people more than anything.

 

[DarkDesertFox]

Hey guys, has anyone entered a local tournament or anything of that sort? (Basically nothing online based)

I'm thinking of entering Birmingham's Electric Dojo in August but I god to honest feel nervous about the whole thing and dunno how I'd be able to keep calm during it, would that just perhaps just be a first time thing?

Any tips anyone would be able to give to keep calm about it? I just feel pressured on meeting new people more than anything.

I entered and won a Smash Tournament in high school for Brawl. Yeah, I was really nervous honestly and it's not an easy feeling to shake. Once you start playing your mind should start focusing on the match and tuning out your surroundings more. Just try ingrain the thought into your mind of nobody else paying attention to your match (even if it's not true). I'm sure you'll still be nervous against your opponent, but it at least can ease some of the tension.

 

[ObeseMudkipz]

Set my name as practice because I wanted to try Olimar and I went up against this obnoxious person and their name was rekt you. Every second they were spamming 3 of duck hunts specials and kept taunting and crap. I beat him tho and it felt so good because he called me a spammer right after xD

 

[Cress]

To be fair Lucas can't do anything on FD except spam PK Fire/Grabs/Zair, he NEEDS platforms to thrive. But if you want to practice Lucas then you shouldn't be going on to FG in the first place so you should be grossed out by them.

I have been to a tournament irl and I was in the bathroom half the time I wasn't playing, I was so nervous. XP I couldn't think straight at all and made a lot of really dumb mistakes, such as trying to counter Mario with Zelda. At Smashville. That's a terrible combination that is almost guaranteed unwinnable for Zelda. I was eliminated round 2.
But I got everything together and focused when doubles started and got 1st place in that so it all worked out.

 

[toadsworthy]

I have no idea where to even go to find out if tournaments happen nearby! I wouldn't mind going out and trying just see what its like and maybe meet some new people...

I would probably be nervous too, but I played in poker tournaments and have even less in common with those type of people, so it might be fun! I'm the type of person who loves new interactions and meeting people so maybe I should look into it more

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Hey guys, has anyone entered a local tournament or anything of that sort? (Basically nothing online based)

I'm thinking of entering Birmingham's Electric Dojo in August but I god to honest feel nervous about the whole thing and dunno how I'd be able to keep calm during it, would that just perhaps just be a first time thing?

Any tips anyone would be able to give to keep calm about it? I just feel pressured on meeting new people more than anything.

like I said, I played poker tournaments where you talk more about not just the game so I bet smash tournaments would be much more fun! just feed into the atmosphere and go in with an open mind! you obviously know your stuff, so just join in on conversations you overhear and can talk about! when all else fails, just deep breathing always calms me down!

 

[Bowie]

Just started playing this again. I know she's pretty overused, but my current main is Zero Suit Samus. I used to be really good with Sheik back in Brawl, but I guess things have changed since then. Trying to earn enough money to get the Bayonetta DLC now, 'cause I absolutely love her.

 

[Cress]

Hey everyone a new patch just came out with balance patches, so go quickly upload any replays you need!
As far as actual balance patch stuff:
-ZELDA WAS BUFFED MAYBE SHE WON'T COMPLETELY SUCK ANYMORE AND JUST MOSTLY SUCK!
-Corrin's Counter was nerfed, also his Nair, Fair, and Uair do 1% less (this helps Nair and Fair actually since this helps them combo easier.) Also Dragon Fang shot does 2% less fully charged.
-Bayo's Up B does less damage, not sure on the exact numbers yet.
-Apparently Meta Knight got nerfed hard

I want to see what else happens to the cast (Wii Fit seems exactly the same boo)

OH THEY KILLED OFF THE UP AIR SPAM COMBO FOR MK YAY
(If you don't know what it is, here you go. Starts at 7:55)

 

[Ness-Star]

R.i.p

 

[Dim]

Awwww hope MK doesn't suck

 

[Javocado]

Ganon with the sauce awww yeah

 

[Hyoshido]

Happy Corrin's counter was nerfed, now people can complain less.

It's not SUPER weak now, It won't kill a Ganon who fully charges Side/Up Smash and Warlock Punch at 0%, however it'll still kill at 0% if Ganon does a Reverse Warlock punch.

But damn, all these other Corrin nerfs, walk and run speeds reduced? Dammit.

 

[DarkDesertFox]

Happy Corrin's counter was nerfed, now people can complain less.

Me too. I wonder why they messed with the walk/run speed though.

 

[Venn]

I heard they increased Mewtwo's weight to.

 

[DarkDesertFox]

I heard they increased Mewtwo's weight to.

I'll probably pick him up if that's true. That was my biggest complaint about him when he was released.

 

[Cress]

I heard they increased Mewtwo's weight to.

Yep, among a few other things. Nair has a bigger hitbox, and also his run speed was increased so now he's slightly faster than Sheik.
His weight was increased last patch as well, so this isn't the first time they increased his weight.

 

[Venn]

Here is right I found:

Bayonetta:
Dair Total Frames: 42F -> 47F
Witch Time:
Total Frames: 44 -> 49
Witch Time effects last shorter amount of time
Witch Time Duration penalty per use: 50F/50F -> 75F/50F (after 100 frames, it recovers 6 frames of length)
Heelslide (Button Held Total Frames: 72F -> 77F

Bowser:
Air Speed: 0.98 -> 1
Weight: 128 -> 130

Charizard:
Air Speed 0.87 -> 0.92
Weight 115 -> 116
Nair:
Landing Lag: 22F -> 20F
Damage: 10/7/7/7 -> 12/9/9/9
KBG: 90 -> 78
Fair:
Landing Lag: 31 -> 22
Damage: 11/12 -> 12/13
Bair:
Landing Lag: 33F -> 24F
Damage: 15/13/10/10 -> 16/14/11/11
Sweetspot Size: 4.5-> 5
Uair Landing Lag: 22F -> 20F
Dair Landing Lag: 35F -> 33F
Flare Blitz:
Explosion KBG: 78 -> 84
Second Hitbox: New hitbox added, extending the move's reach to behind Charizard

Cloud:
Uair Early/Late Damage: 13/9.5 -> 12/8.5
Forward Smash Third Hit KBG: 119 -> 115
Down Smash Second Hit KBG: 96 -> 94
Limit Cross Slash KGB: 155 -> 153
Finishing Touch (Air):
Normal Hit KBG: 417 -> 359
Late Hit KBG: 390 -> 335
Windbox KBG: 100 -> 86
Limit Charge Total Charge Time: 362F -> 404F (Increased by 0.42 seconds)
Front/Back Roll Intangibility: 4-17F -> 4-15F

Corrin:
Nair Early/Late Damage: 8/6.5 -> 7/5,5
Fair Damage: 8.5 -> 7.5
Uair Damage: 10 -> 9
Dragon Fang Shot Fully Charged Damage: 13 -> 11
Counter Surge
KB: Reduced (Amount Unknown)
Bugfix: Damage scales properly instead of being limited to the minimum 8% when slowed down.
Walk Speed: Reduced
Run Speed: Reduced
Front/Back Roll:
Total Frames: 29F -> 30F
Intangibility: 4-16F -> 4-14F

Duck Hunt:
Fsmash Final Hit KBG: 123 -> 125
Dsmash Final Hit KBG: 153 -> 155
Usmash Final Hit KBG: 110 -> 112

Ganondorf:
Jab:
Startup Sweetspot/Sourspot: 8F/7F -> 7F/6F
Damage: 7/10/4 -> 8/10/6
Dash Attack Total Frames: 41F -> 37F
Wizard's Foot Ground Damage: 12/12/10 -> 14/12/12

Greninja:
Dash Attack:
Hitbox: 9-12F -> 7-10F
Total Duration: 32F -> 30F
Standing Grab Startup: 14F -> 11F
Fair Landing Lag: 18F -> 15F
Bair Landing Lag: 16F -> 13F
Bonk: Headbonk angle changed (survival-ability improved)

Kirby:
Dsmash Early Hit KBG: 109 -> 110
Fsmash:
Early Hit KBG: 100 -> 102
Late Hit KBG: 67 -> 69
Usmash:
Early Hit KBG: 103/103/97 -> 104/104/99
Normal Hit KBG 97 -> 98
Late Hit KBG: 51 -> 52
Hammer Flip:
Uncharged Ground KBG: 76 -> 78
Full Charged Ground KBG: 76 -> 78
Uncharged Air KBG: 76 -> 78
Full Charged Air KBG: 76 -> 78
Hammer Bash (Custom 1):
Air Second Hit Hammer Head KBG: 76 -> 78
Air Second Hit Hammer Handle KBG: 76 -> 78
Ground Hammer Head KBG: 76 -> 78
Ground Hammer Handle KBG: 76 -> 78
Giant Hammer (Custom 2):
Uncharged Air KBG: 76 -> 78
Full Charged Air KBG: 76 -> 78
Uncharged Ground KBG: 76 -> 78
Full Charged Ground KBG: 76 -> 78

Link:
Dsmash Second Hit KBG: 57 -> 63
Dash Attack:
14/13/12 Damage KBG: 78/78/72 -> 85/85/77
14/13/12 Damage Angles: 45/60/70 -> 45/50/55

Meta Knight:
Uair:
Damage: 5 -> 4
Angle: 78/78/60 -> 69/69/52
SDI Multiplier: 1.0 -> 1.5
Fair Landing Lag: 20F -> 16F

Mewtwo:
Weight: 72 -> 74
Run Speed: Increased (Around Sheik's speed)
Upsmash Total Duration: 73F -> 68F
Nair Multihit Hitbox Size: 2.3 -> 3.0

Pac-Man:
Bair KBG: 98 -> 100
Fsmash First Hit/Second Hit KBG: 97/100 -> 99/102
Usmash Second Hit Early/Late KBG: 95/90 -> 97/92
Dsmash Early/Late KBG: 84/90 -> 86/92

Palutena:
Rapid Jab Finisher Damage: 3 -> 3.5
Nair Multihit/Final Damage: 1.5/4 -> 1.7/5
Fair:
Damage: 8 -> 9
KBG: 100 -> 92
BKB: 30 -> 31

Peach:
Uair First Hit (Hitbox 2) Ground/Air Value: 3 -> 2 (No longer hits grounded opponents, removing the infinite)

Robin:
Jab:
First Hit BKB: 35 -> 40
Second Hit BKB: 30/35 -> 45
Nosferatu/Distant Nosferatu Startup: 16F -> 15F

Samus:
Ftilt Sourspot/Sweetspot Down Angle/Sweetspot No Angle/Sweetspot Up Angle Damage: 6/7/8/9 -> 8/9/10/11
Dash Attack Total Frames: 37F -> 33F
Dsmash Total Frames: 51F -> 44F
Nair Front/Back Weak/Back Strong Damage: 8/6/7 -> 10/8/9
Standing Grab Total Frames: 75F -> 69F
Dash Grab Total Frames: 73F -> 67F
Pivot Grab Total Frames: 89F -> 83F

Sheik:
Dsmash KBG: 155 -> 165
Fair:
Defensive Hitbox Z Postion: 3.5 -> 2.5
Hitbox Z Position: 3.5 -> 2.5
Fthrow:
Angle: 70 -> 72
KBG: 65 -> 79
Dthrow:
Angle: 80 -> 77
KBG: 75 -> 90
Needle: Range Decreased (range reduced to ~80% of what it was previously)
Weight: 84 -> 81

Zelda:
Ftilt:
Hitbox Startup: 12F -> 10F
Total Frames: 39F -> 37F
Hitbox Z Position: 3 -> 3.5
Jab:
First & Second Hit Damage: 2.5 -> 3
Final Hit Damage: 3 -> 5
Final Hit KBG: 130 -> 95
Final Hit BKB: 35 -> 40
Dsmash Total Frames: 40 -> 37
Nair:
Multihit damage 2/1 -> 2.5/1.5
5th Hit Damage: 3 -> 5
Uair:
Damage: 15 -> 17
KBG: 90 -> 84
Hitbox Size: 7 -> 8
All Grabs: Increased horizontal range
Nayru's Love Intangibility: 5-12F -> 5-15F

Zero Suit Samus:
Uair:
Damage: 8 -> 6.5
KBG: 110 -> 125
Nair:
Damage: 10 -> 8
KBG: 80 -> 96
KB: 40 -> 38
Hitbox Size: Altered (approximately 1 unit less for all changes)
Bthrow:
Damage: 4 -> 6
KBG: 25 -> 45
KB: 70 -> 72
Dthrow:
Damage: 5 -> 3
KBG: 25 -> 60
KB: 100 -> 90
Plasma Whip:
First Hit KB: 80 -> 100
Multihit:
Damage: .8 -> 1.2
KBG: 90 -> 70
Hitbox Sizes: Altered (exact values unknown)
Final Hit:
Damage: 6 -> 7.5
Hitbox Size: Altered (exact values unknown)
Normal/Dash/Pivot Grab Last Active Frame: 29F -> 25F

Everyone else has not been updated, or nothing has been found yet.

 

[Hyoshido]

Went to a Smash tourney

Lost to this god tier Olimar player

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