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Photoshop CS5 Sneak Peek

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Jak said:
This looks like god in a program. And I've noticed that Tye's failed to comment.
I said it seemed very likely that it was fake. My assumption was wrong, I'm not denying that, but I never said it was 100% fake. It just seemed like it, especially because everything in that video is very easy to fake.
 
Tyeforce said:
Reading the comments on the video and channel page, it's obvious that it's a hoax. Makes sense. Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
^^^^
 
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Reading the comments on the video and channel page, it's obvious that it's a hoax. Makes sense. Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
^^^^
And at the bottom of that same page...
Tyeforce said:
And I'm not saying that this is 100% not real. It might be, but the facts are against it right now.
Don't take my words out of context. Yes, it appeared to be a hoax to be at the time, but I was proven wrong, and I'm not denying that. But I didn't say that what I believed was 100% true.
 
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Reading the comments on the video and channel page, it's obvious that it's a hoax. Makes sense. Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
^^^^
And at the bottom of that same page...
Tyeforce said:
And I'm not saying that this is 100% not real. It might be, but the facts are against it right now.
Don't take my words out of context. Yes, it appeared to be a hoax to be at the time, but I was proven wrong, and I'm not denying that. But I didn't say that what I believed was 100% true.
Still doesn't change the fact that I lol'ed at you saying:
Tyeforce said:
Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
 
And thus my quest for a "TBT computer thread without arguments" continues. I have a long road ahead of me.

On topic: it looks pretty nifty, hope all you Photoshop lovers enjoy it! =D
 
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Reading the comments on the video and channel page, it's obvious that it's a hoax. Makes sense. Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
^^^^
And at the bottom of that same page...
Tyeforce said:
And I'm not saying that this is 100% not real. It might be, but the facts are against it right now.
Don't take my words out of context. Yes, it appeared to be a hoax to be at the time, but I was proven wrong, and I'm not denying that. But I didn't say that what I believed was 100% true.
Still doesn't change the fact that I lol'ed at you saying:
Tyeforce said:
Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
Well, CS5 was a surprise to me. Adobe sure doesn't give much reason to believe that they would innovate like that, especially with the direction in which they've been going. And even though they're developing innovative features like that, we've yet to see how well they'll actually work. Plus, even if they have good features, it'll probably still be buggy, bloated, and overpriced. And emphasis on the "overpriced".
 
Rawburt said:
And thus my quest for a "TBT computer thread without arguments" continues. I have a long road ahead of me.

On topic: it looks pretty nifty, hope all you Photoshop lovers enjoy it! =D
There are plenty of them. Like, most of them. (You know, the uninteresting ones. XD)
 
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
And at the bottom of that same page...
Tyeforce said:
And I'm not saying that this is 100% not real. It might be, but the facts are against it right now.
Don't take my words out of context. Yes, it appeared to be a hoax to be at the time, but I was proven wrong, and I'm not denying that. But I didn't say that what I believed was 100% true.
Still doesn't change the fact that I lol'ed at you saying:
Tyeforce said:
Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
Well, CS5 was a surprise to me. Adobe sure doesn't give much reason to believe that they would innovate like that, especially with the direction in which they've been going. And even though they're developing innovative features like that, we've yet to see how well they'll actually work. Plus, even if they have good features, it'll probably still be buggy, bloated, and overpriced. And emphasis on the "overpriced".
We've gone over the whole buggy/bloated/overpriced thing before, and you've been proven wrong. I can't be bothered to do it again.
 
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
Still doesn't change the fact that I lol'ed at you saying:
Tyeforce said:
Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
Well, CS5 was a surprise to me. Adobe sure doesn't give much reason to believe that they would innovate like that, especially with the direction in which they've been going. And even though they're developing innovative features like that, we've yet to see how well they'll actually work. Plus, even if they have good features, it'll probably still be buggy, bloated, and overpriced. And emphasis on the "overpriced".
We've gone over the whole buggy/bloated/overpriced thing before, and you've been proven wrong. I can't be bothered to do it again.
Where have I been proven wrong about that?! You can't prove a fact wrong. The bugginess can be a bit debatable, but there's no arguing the fact that their applications are bloated and overpriced.
 
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
Well, CS5 was a surprise to me. Adobe sure doesn't give much reason to believe that they would innovate like that, especially with the direction in which they've been going. And even though they're developing innovative features like that, we've yet to see how well they'll actually work. Plus, even if they have good features, it'll probably still be buggy, bloated, and overpriced. And emphasis on the "overpriced".
We've gone over the whole buggy/bloated/overpriced thing before, and you've been proven wrong. I can't be bothered to do it again.
Where have I been proven wrong about that?! You can't prove a fact wrong. The bugginess can be a bit debatable, but there's no arguing the fact that their applications are bloated and overpriced.
But they aren't overpriced. Bloated may be debatable, depending on the type of thing you're doing and specific applications you're talking about.

Again though, I can't be bothered debating with you anymore, I've given up.
 
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
We've gone over the whole buggy/bloated/overpriced thing before, and you've been proven wrong. I can't be bothered to do it again.
Where have I been proven wrong about that?! You can't prove a fact wrong. The bugginess can be a bit debatable, but there's no arguing the fact that their applications are bloated and overpriced.
But they aren't overpriced. Bloated may be debatable, depending on the type of thing you're doing and specific applications you're talking about.

Again though, I can't be bothered debating with you anymore, I've given up.
Not overpriced? LOL. You must be pretty rich if you think $700 for an image editing application isn't overpriced.

And the bloatedness isn't even debatable. Adobe's applications are much bigger in size than they could (and should) be, and they rely on too many additional files, which you're forced to install. Internally, Adobe's applications are a sloppy mess.
 
Seven Hundred Dollars ISN'T That much for an editing program. Photoshop has far more things then people even know what to do with, not to mention even knowing about. It's by FAR the most powerful image editing program that exists.

Yes some people prefer correl, sai, gimp, etc, but there's a lot of things that Photoshop offers that just can't be duplicated in any other program. Trust me, I've used them all. (I myself lean towards Sai.)

Keep in mind photoshop is also used mostly by large corporations and design bureau's for small edits that wouldn't be possible on any other kind of program, that and they've used it back to when it first came out which does make it hard to switch when you've been keeping up with something like that.

The biggest part of photoshop is the ability to CUSTOMIZE. Custom brushes, settings, and ungodly amazing tablet control is a huge turning point when picking the right program for your needs, and don't argue it, when it comes to artists and tablet control, it's one of the biggest buy/no buy specifics.


As for adobe applications being a sloppy mess, and too big in file size, you're not considering at all the kinds of scripting it takes to make them work so, and really, you're not doing any of the install work. It's all in an automatic UNPACKER that works with scripts to make things work.


I don't think 700 is overpriced, in fact it's relatively cheap compared to Autodesk programs (9k for a 3d program nooooooo thank you)
 
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
And at the bottom of that same page...
Tyeforce said:
And I'm not saying that this is 100% not real. It might be, but the facts are against it right now.
Don't take my words out of context. Yes, it appeared to be a hoax to be at the time, but I was proven wrong, and I'm not denying that. But I didn't say that what I believed was 100% true.
Still doesn't change the fact that I lol'ed at you saying:
Tyeforce said:
Adobe wouldn't innovate like that (if it was even possible in the first place, that is) when they can't even make proper applications, lol.
Well, CS5 was a surprise to me. Adobe sure doesn't give much reason to believe that they would innovate like that, especially with the direction in which they've been going. And even though they're developing innovative features like that, we've yet to see how well they'll actually work. Plus, even if they have good features, it'll probably still be buggy, bloated, and overpriced. And emphasis on the "overpriced".
Kind of like Nintendo?

Run with me here for a moment, they're not too innovative anymore. Sure, after a couple years, they'll release some innovative software, but the DS has pretty much been the same through every single generation. With the exception of the camera, the DSi is like a regular DS. And before you go off saying that that new program "Hidden Picture" is innovative, it isn't by Nintendo. And look at the Wii. It's been out for 6+ years now, and only now are they slightly tapping into its potentials. Why? Because they have no reason to innovate. It's a formula that works for them, so they're sticking with it. A couple years from now, maybe things will be different, but until then, Adobe's software will have to do. This is innovative (even though it came out in a span of three years), just like Nintendo.
 
Zr388 said:
Seven Hundred Dollars ISN'T That much for an editing program. Photoshop has far more things then people even know what to do with, not to mention even knowing about. It's by FAR the most powerful image editing program that exists.

Yes some people prefer correl, sai, gimp, etc, but there's a lot of things that Photoshop offers that just can't be duplicated in any other program. Trust me, I've used them all. (I myself lean towards Sai.)

Keep in mind photoshop is also used mostly by large corporations and design bureau's for small edits that wouldn't be possible on any other kind of program, that and they've used it back to when it first came out which does make it hard to switch when you've been keeping up with something like that.

The biggest part of photoshop is the ability to CUSTOMIZE. Custom brushes, settings, and ungodly amazing tablet control is a huge turning point when picking the right program for your needs, and don't argue it, when it comes to artists and tablet control, it's one of the biggest buy/no buy specifics.


As for adobe applications being a sloppy mess, and too big in file size, you're not considering at all the kinds of scripting it takes to make them work so, and really, you're not doing any of the install work. It's all in an automatic UNPACKER that works with scripts to make things work.


I don't think 700 is overpriced, in fact it's relatively cheap compared to Autodesk programs (9k for a 3d program nooooooo thank you)
^^^
But this has all been mentioned before.

Tye does realise that the type of stuff put into Photoshop CS5 can't just be done overnight? It requires a TON of algorithms and coding, which does not come cheap. Sure, Adobe's applications could be $100 but then we wouldn't see half of the innovation that they've done with recent versions of their applications.

And don't say more people would buy it if it was cheaper, because that's just not true. TONS of people and businesses all around the world buy Photoshop for their jobs and employees, that's not counting the people that buy it just for personal use. Not everyone torrents or even knows how to torrent. The amount of extra people buying the cheaper version would not make up for the loss of cash.

If you really think applications like GIMP even come close to the power of Photoshop, you're wrong.
 
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