Parents buying underage kids rated M games?

I don't believe in ratings. There is no correlation between video games and unwanted behavior. If someone is trashy or obsessed with guns it's because that's how they are and always have been, not because of the games they play. It's really stupid to think that someone could be so weak-minded to let video games influence their actions and if someone is that weak-minded then they are just stupid people.

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Everyone has a different level of maturity at different parts of their life. For example, I think I'm far more immature right now then I've ever been. I have very little responsibilities. But when I lived with my parents, I helped them with everything from watching my siblings to washing the car. Kids can be pretty mature. I don't think it's 'all 13 year olds' who swear and talk about violence. And I think it looks different on the outside, then it feels for them, (if that makes sense. It's like we're looking into a window at what they think). I remember being 13 and my friends and I would see how many dirty things we could fit into a sentence, simply because we could. I don't know...I don't think that has to do with maturity as much as it's funny because it's taboo at that age. There's literally no one else you can talk to about perverted stuff at that age but your parents, and who wants to do that? So, when I was that age, I turned to my friends, and we'd joke and swear and try to do as many taboo things as possible, (without crossing the line to physical violence/sexual activity). I'm just saying. It seems like sort of a phase, not something caused by video games.

*edit* To kind of add on to this, adults have been saying: the next generation will be our doom since Plato, and probably before Plato. It's an age old fear that the new generation is screwing things up. So when I hear stuff like this, and about how the next generation is...bad, I take it with a grain of salt. Well, of course it looks bad, they're doing everything differently then us when we were kids, (which, to be honest, I don't think is true, we just don't realize how stupid we were when we were young until we see younger people doing dumb things). And I'm just saying...these kids, they look dumb when they get onto an m rated game and can't be mature about it. But that isn't going to be EVERY kid online, and I don't think it has to do with how mature they are.

*disclaimer, I don't really believe in ratings*
 
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as long as the mature content isn't going to upset the child i really don't see the problem
i mean these things are going to become present in their lives sooner or later so why bother going to extra lengths to shelter kids when they're young
 
Did you know that most of the people who cuss online, talk about sex and nudity online, and those who say "go to hell" a lot online are actually immature people under the age of 13? It's true.

No, it's not true. People of all ages act like this online.

I know a person who played rated M games their whole life.. let's just say that he has an obsession with guns.

Guns are pretty fascinating. You don't need to play rated games to take a liking to them.

Yeah, you can definitely tell what somebody does by their personality. I hate pretty much everybody who plays rated M games at my school. Know why? They have the worst personalities. They're the perverted ones talking about violence every 5 seconds. I'm glad I'm more of an audiophile, it's kind of a better turnout for me ;D

Don't blame the games a person plays for their personalities. A lot of school age people can be show offs and jerks regardless of their interests.

I don't believe in ratings. There is no correlation between video games and unwanted behavior. If someone is trashy or obsessed with guns it's because that's how they are and always have been, not because of the games they play. It's really stupid to think that someone could be so weak-minded to let video games influence their actions and if someone is that weak-minded then they are just stupid people.

It's rare I agree with you, but yes, absolutely this.

?How? I mean, it is kind of true.

EDIT: The ones that casually play it are fine, it's not an obsession. However, I know kids who let those games control their lives, and you can see it. Not that I care, though: why should I?

There's no problem with that. Games are a form of escapism for a lot of people. Something that provides a bit of a thrill and a way to vent a little is a good thing.

It only gets annoying when other kids call out on other games who play different games than "M-Rated games" (Mainly Nintendo here, cuz imma Nintendo fanboy over here) kiddy.
Even those games are just as fun or even more fun than the M-Rated games that people play.
Really don't have to call out on some body for liking different stuff.

Then again I do that with Smash Bros 4 with people here so....

Off topic a little bit but I agree with them. Nintendo games are aimed at family audiences, so yea, they're made to appeal to children as well as adults. Even in my mother calls them "kiddy" when she's watching me play say Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker or Mario Kart 8 but hey I don't care. :p

A particularly notable issue is when children who are already questionable in their mental health, get their hands on things, whether it be video games, movies, etc. with content that can be considered inappropriate (especially for young children). A child who is easily influenced in general has a greater risk in my opinion of doing the wrong thing when they take part in experiencing in such mediums.

I think this is the one exception, but at the same time, it'd be down to what was effecting them mentally. When I was in school I tutored the sweetest boy who had various behavioural and mental problems. He had trouble grasping a lot of things, and he found it difficult relating to the kids around him, but once I got him talking about video games he could go on forever about them. If you didn't ask him then you'd have no idea he spent every night playing violent games - and he seemed perfectly capable of distinguishing that what happened in those games wouldn't be okay in real life.

and people really need to stop blaming games and whatever else for peoples' attitudes. it may contribute, but it is nowhere NEAR the sole reason people become violent or vulgar or whatever else have you. as someone else mentioned, that would ESPECIALLY be contributed to by parenting, as well as core personality, among other things.

Absolutely yes.

But it's so much easier to blame video games than to take responsibility for your own bad parenting or your crappy school system.

There doesn't need to be a cause. Some people are just jerks. ;)





Age ratings are just guidelines, not facts. Many children and young teens will spout about how "mature" they are not even realising what that word really entails. Being able to handle viewing mature content doesn't mean you are mature yourself - it just means you're not upset by it. Even adults can be upset by mature content, and that doesn't make them any less mature.

You can shelter children, but there's going to be a point where they're going to get their hands on that material anyway. Sure, they might act childish about it, but to be honest so might a lot of people when they first view something of that nature for the first time regardless of their age. Violence is fascinating. So is sex, and drugs, and weapons, and fast cars. If they weren't so interesting then we wouldn't keep reusing them in films and games and books time and time again.
 
I forgot to mention earlier, but parenting does play a massive part in all of this (much more so than the games). There are a lot of kids that do some shockingly bad things, but it starts with the parents/guardians. Too many kids not being raised properly in my opinion, parents seem to be viewing punishment for wrongdoing by children as less and less of something they are willing to do. A "slap on the wrist" just isn't enough of a punishment to convince many of these children to act disciplined, I've seen some awful little brats in public, and it really annoys me when the parents don't even do anything about it. These are the same types of children who will pick up on the profanity and other content in mature games and spread them around when in the company of other children (That is, if they didn't pick it up from their parents first.)

I played games like half life and doom (so pretty gruesome killing games) with my dad since I was about 5. I loved them, and didn't turn out violent. As long as the kid can handle it and realise that real life shouldn't be like that, then why the hell not

Off topic: I don't know much about Doom, but I don't think "gruesome killing game" is an accurate description of the Half-Life series. There is violence, but most of it is against non-humans, or things that would be difficult to distinguish as a child as a human being. To me it's just not "gruesome," but it is violent.

As another note, I don't agree with the practice of exposing children (young children to clarify) to many of the mature themes in video games, movies, and other related media. I personally just don't think it's something children of certain ages should see, hear, or know about. Better to keep a child innocent for as long as innocence can be kept than to allow them to experience the vile things of this world before they are ripe enough to deal with it on their own.
 
leave people the **** alone it's their life
 
Citation needed. Just because the stereotype of "little 13 year olds swearing online" exists, and just because you say "it's true" does not make it true unless you back it up with facts from a reputable source.

Now that really bugs me. Please do not ask me to cite my sources when I voice my opinion on the forums. It's not worth my time and there are no rules against posting unsourced facts on this site.
 
Most parents don't really care... Its kinda upseting to me because half of my friends just play GTA and COD, and talk about the latest games a stuff like that. I mean I'm ok with that, it just bothers me that they constantly exoect me to know what the heck that stuff is!

Plus most stuff in there is pretty bloody and messed up... So thats a thing
 
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if something brings someone joy like who the **** are you to take that away from them

mind your own ****ing business amen goodbye
 
Now that really bugs me. Please do not ask me to cite my sources when I voice my opinion on the forums. It's not worth my time and there are no rules against posting unsourced facts on this site.

They're probably asking for a source because it's a little judgmental of you to claim most people who cuss and act like jerks are automatically 13 or younger, especially since there are people on this forum around that age. There are some mature people at the ages 13 and younger, there are some who are very immature, and there are people at the ages 18 and older who are very immature. We could talk about ANY age and there is probably someone at that age who is immature, really.
 
They're probably asking for a source because it's a little judgmental of you to claim most people who cuss and act like jerks are automatically 13 or younger, especially since there are people on this forum around that age. There are some mature people at the ages 13 and younger, there are some who are very immature, and there are people at the ages 18 and older who are very immature. We could talk about ANY age and there is probably someone at that age who is immature, really.

I can say this much. Not everybody who does it are kids. Not all kids do it. But from my experience, most of the time, they are kids. I've seen bad adults online before, and they talk more extreme.
 
It's not any of my business what parents are buying for their own children and I really don't care, it's up to them make those decisions.

If I was a parent I wouldn't go solely off of the ratings because I don't think it's so black and white. If my young kid wanted to play an M-rated game I'd rather play it myself and decide if they could handle it rather than go off of what the rating says. And I agree with what others have said that it depends a lot on maturity; every kid handles things differently and I think a lot of kids could definitely handle most mature games, it just depends.
 
Off topic, one or two of my friends bought a game/CD (I don't remeber, I only saw the cutscenes) from Japan. All I have to say was WOW, the game was rated for kids and it had a ton of messed up stuff in it, refrences were commonly used that involved gore and sexuality. Could this mean something?
 
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Up to the parent. Depends a lot on the child as well and their maturity level and if the parent has taught their child how to play respectfully with others.
 
Depends on the kid, depends on the game. I was and am able to handle mature subjects, but not all kids can.
 
Off topic, one or two of my friends bought a game/CD (I don't remeber, I only saw the cutscenes) from Japan. All I have to say was WOW, the game was rated for kids and it had a ton of messed up stuff in it, refrences were commonly used that involved gore and sexuality. Could this mean something?

they have different standards and rating systems in different countries.
 
I played an M-rated game as a kid (Conker's Bad Fur Day lmfao) and it didn't warp me, as far as I know - the sexual content mostly went over my head and the gorey content I thought was "gross" but it was a fun game and I played it a lot, as did my siblings.
Around last year I saw my step-nephew (is that even a thing) playing some kind of shooter on their PS3 with hyper realistic graphics and killing people by shooting them in the head and it kinda seemed wtf-ish to me but I guess that's hypocritical since I did the same thing at his age, just with polygonal graphics. xD I don't know if I'm going anywhere with this, anyway my thought is that media is influential, but not so much that a kid should have any real and lasting damage done to them if they're allowed to play a game with violence and sexual content, and I'd be loathe to call it bad parenting since my mom was pretty open-minded about which content we were allowed to take in as kids.

And in fairness to my mum, she didn't realize what kind of game Conker's Bad Fur Day was, she only knew Conker from Diddy Kong Racing lmao
 
I played an M-rated game as a kid (Conker's Bad Fur Day lmfao) and it didn't warp me, as far as I know - the sexual content mostly went over my head and the gorey content I thought was "gross" but it was a fun game and I played it a lot, as did my siblings.
Around last year I saw my step-nephew (is that even a thing) playing some kind of shooter on their PS3 with hyper realistic graphics and killing people by shooting them in the head and it kinda seemed wtf-ish to me but I guess that's hypocritical since I did the same thing at his age, just with polygonal graphics. xD I don't know if I'm going anywhere with this, anyway my thought is that media is influential, but not so much that a kid should have any real and lasting damage done to them if they're allowed to play a game with violence and sexual content, and I'd be loathe to call it bad parenting since my mom was pretty open-minded about which content we were allowed to take in as kids.

And in fairness to my mum, she didn't realize what kind of game Conker's Bad Fur Day was, she only knew Conker from Diddy Kong Racing lmao

That game is hilarious. A lot of people were tricked by the graphics, aha. I mean, it looks like it's for children.

Anyways, it's up to the parent. If I had kids, I wouldn't have a problem letting them play graphic/violent games as long as they were old enough to understand a) video games are video games and nothing more and b) not to be obnoxious playing online. tbh with shooters I would worry more about online play than the actual games themselves. I might let them play the games but without chat or something. Some people get insane on multiplayer.

But honestly with really young kids (like 10 and under) I couldn't see myself buying them anything that intense anyways. But that's just me.

Being a gamer myself, if I had children I'd play games with them, so they'd probably know how to be civil anyways. I think the problem occurs when parents just buy their kid like COD or something and then just let them play it all day and don't give a **** or ever supervise them. Not saying kids can't play games on their own, but at first I don't think you can just give it to them and be like "alright have fun bye".
 
If the kid can handle it, I don't see why not. I didn't play my first T game until I was 13, and I didn't play an M-rated game until I was 17, but that was more because of my own interest in games as opposed to my parents' restrictions. My brother got his first M-rated game when he was 14/15 and he turned out fine.
 
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