Opinions and Veiws on Autism

[Reindeer]

Obviously it is, because I was diagnosed with Aspergers. Isn't that 'high functioning'?

No, it's not. In fact, "high functioning autism" is such a vague term that even researchers that use it can't agree on what it means. Does it mean Asperger's? Does it mean every ASD? Even they don't know.

It's not included in the DSM and ICD either, meaning that the general consensus on whether or not it actually exists says that it does not actually exist.

How was I supposed to know that?

By not assuming. The fact that I've said over and over that it's affected me in a bad way might have been an indication. Apart from that, what parent would keep their child in an environment that's trying to kill them?

I don't understand what you mean?

To put it bluntly, your constant IM PROUD OF BEING AUTISTIC is really ****ing annoying, all right?

A lot of people in this thread have said it's nothing to be proud of, because it is hurting them or the people around them. While I'm not being bullied anymore, in my everyday life I notice the things it's keeping me from doing. It affects me physically as well, as some of my motor functions don't work too well thanks to my disorder.

The fact that you're just yelling OMG SO PROUD OF AUTISM brings up a lot of hurtful feelings in people. So my point is, if you just change your attitude so you're not constantly blurting out such ****, maybe your thread won't have as many arguments and heated discussions.

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In case you didn't notice, that wasn't about you.

 

[Beary]

No, it's not. In fact, "high functioning autism" is such a vague term that even researchers that use it can't agree on what it means. Does it mean Asperger's? Does it mean every ASD? Even they don't know.

It's not included in the DSM and ICD either, meaning that the general consensus on whether or not it actually exists says that it does not actually exist.


By not assuming. The fact that I've said over and over that it's affected me in a bad way might have been an indication. Apart from that, what parent would keep their child in an environment that's trying to kill them?


To put it bluntly, your constant IM PROUD OF BEING AUTISTIC is really ****ing annoying, all right?

I never said that, I said that I'm happy with who I am.

A lot of people in this thread have said it's nothing to be proud of, because it is hurting them or the people around them. While I'm not being bullied anymore, in my everyday life I notice the things it's keeping me from doing. It affects me physically as well, as some of my motor functions don't work too well thanks to my disorder.

The fact that you're just yelling OMG SO PROUD OF AUTISM brings up a lot of hurtful feelings in people. So my point is, if you just change your attitude so you're not constantly blurting out such ****, maybe your thread won't have as many arguments and heated discussions.


In case you didn't notice, that wasn't about you.

I had to put that, or it wouldn't let me post.
Could we end this argument, please?

 

[radical6]

Sorry for stepping in, but what's wrong with being proud of having autism? How is it any different than being proud of being gay, trans, etc. People think autism is a disease and always treat autistic people like that. They're seen as "not normal" for their whole lives. I think they deserve to have some pride in themselves when the rest of the world claims they're a disease and should be ashamed of who they are. Let Beary be proud of herself, because I know she's not the only autistic person that loves who she is. I don't think it's right to tear her pride like this.

 

[Reindeer]

Sorry for stepping in, but what's wrong with being proud of having autism? How is it any different than being proud of being gay, trans, etc. People think autism is a disease and always treat autistic people like that. They're seen as "not normal" for their whole lives. I think they deserve to have some pride in themselves when the rest of the world claims they're a disease and should be ashamed of who they are. Let Beary be proud of herself, because I know she's not the only autistic person that loves who she is. I don't think it's right to tear her pride like this.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but homosexuality has not been classified as a mental disorder since the 1950s, and even back then there were a lot of people saying it wasn't. Autism, however, is a mental disorder.

I can get how people can be proud of being gay, but don't you think some people are a bit too proud? Like people dancing in the streets naked so they'll finally be accepted for being that way. I'm fine with gay people, but it doesn't mean they can be indecent and get away with it.

That's kind of how I see this pride of being autistic. That's fine and all, but other people still have to struggle with it. I can be cold as well because I'm emotionally unstable, but that doesn't mean I can't be empathetic. Saying "im autistic lol" as a defense against trying to understand what other people are going through is simply a sign of willful ignorance.

 

[Mr. L]

Sorry for stepping in, but what's wrong with being proud of having autism? How is it any different than being proud of being gay, trans, etc. People think autism is a disease and always treat autistic people like that. They're seen as "not normal" for their whole lives. I think they deserve to have some pride in themselves when the rest of the world claims they're a disease and should be ashamed of who they are. Let Beary be proud of herself, because I know she's not the only autistic person that loves who she is. I don't think it's right to tear her pride like this.

Because it's like being proud of having AIDS, or any disease for that matter. Obviously there's nothing wrong with having autism and still being a confident and proud person from your qualities and achievements, but there's really no reason to be proud to have the actual disorder.

 

[Beary]

Because it's like being proud of having AIDS, or any disease/disorder for that matter. Obviously there's nothing wrong with having autism and still being a confident and proud person from your qualities and achievements, but there's really no reason to be proud to have the actual disorder.

#1: AIDS can spread
#2: Autism is not a disease
#3: Your just beating down on me at this point.

 

[Mr. L]

#1: AIDS can spread
#2: Autism is not a disease
#3: Your just beating down on me at this point.

The fact that you don't even acknowledge that autism is a disease shows how ignorant and worthless your opinion really is.

Just stop, you're making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already are.

 

[Smokey]

#1: AIDS can spread
#2: Autism is not a disease
#3: Your just beating down on me at this point.

#1: Autism may not be physically contracted, but it has a strong genetic basis, meaning if you ever have a child, it would be way more likely to have autism.
#2: Then why is it that so many people with it "aren't at ease"? Disorder and disease are different words for the same thing.
#3: He is just disagreeing with your behavior. I guess it's beating down, but it might do you some good

 

[cIementine]

The fact that you don't even acknowledge that autism is a disease shows how ignorant and worthless your opinion really is.

Just stop, you're making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already are.

If you're going to call someone ignorant and worthless, maybe you're the fool.
How rude of you.

 

[Beary]

The fact that you don't even acknowledge that autism is a disease shows how ignorant and worthless your opinion really is.

Just stop, you're making an even bigger fool of yourself than you already are.

This is MY THREAD.
I'm extremely fed up with you, clogging my thread with your criticizing and insults. Please leave. I'm sure many other people are already annoyed.


Autism is not a disease. Calling me ignorant, and a fool, doesn't make your opinion better. It doesn't make you right. It also doesn't make me right, but arguing gets both of us nowhere. I'm close to reporting you and closing the whole thread.
I never meant to make you mad, but this is getting rediculous.

http://www.examiner.com/article/is-autism-a-disease

 

[matt]

Everyone has a tiny bit of autism. Some have more than others.

 

[cIementine]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but homosexuality has not been classified as a mental disorder since the 1950s, and even back then there were a lot of people saying it wasn't. Autism, however, is a mental disorder.

I can get how people can be proud of being gay, but don't you think some people are a bit too proud? Like people dancing in the streets naked so they'll finally be accepted for being that way. I'm fine with gay people, but it doesn't mean they can be indecent and get away with it.

That's kind of how I see this pride of being autistic. That's fine and all, but other people still have to struggle with it. I can be cold as well because I'm emotionally unstable, but that doesn't mean I can't be empathetic. Saying "im autistic lol" as a defense against trying to understand what other people are going through is simply a sign of willful ignorance.

Are you literally going to waste time being a complete *******?
At least waste some time trying to stop being one.

 

[Mr. L]

WAAAAHHHHH THIS IS MY THREAD STOP HURTING MY FEELINGS WITH FACTS

Grow up and come back in 4 years with a proper diagnosis and even a sliver of maturity.

And nice job trying to prove me wrong with an article that is an opinion piece.

"To me, the term 'disease' implies hospital rooms... thermometers..."

 

[Smokey]

This is MY THREAD.
I'm extremely fed up with you, clogging my thread with your criticizing and insults. Please leave. I'm sure many other people are already annoyed.


Autism is not a disease. Calling me ignorant, and a fool, doesn't make your opinion better. It doesn't make you right. It also doesn't make me right, but arguing gets both of us nowhere. I'm close to reporting you and closing the whole thread.
I never meant to make you mad, but this is getting rediculous.

http://www.examiner.com/article/is-autism-a-disease

Why would you link an article filled entirely with opinions and not fact to prove your point?

 

[Liquid Ocelot]

I'm pretty sure this entire thread is one elaborate troll.

Pretty sure.

Fun to watch, tho. Better than fireworks.

 

[cIementine]

Please, will everyone just stop being complete *******s?
If you think LittleBeary is immature or her thread or behaviour is stupid, don't post.
You clearly don't like this thread yet you're constantly posting here.
The way you're acting towards her is more immature than you make her out to be.

 

[Beary]

Grow up and come back in 4 years with a proper diagnosis and even a sliver of maturity.

And nice job trying to prove me wrong with an article that is an opinion piece.

"To me, the term 'disease' implies hospital rooms... thermometers..."

I'm reporting all three of you.
Don't waste your time trolling 12 years olds.

 

[Mr. L]

Please, will everyone just stop being complete *******s?
If you think LittleBeary is immature or her thread or behaviour is stupid, don't post.
You clearly don't like this thread yet you're constantly posting here.
The way you're acting towards her is more immature than you make her out to be.

She's the only one that continues to be ignorant and deny facts that have been shown to her over and over again. Also, I highly doubt a twelve-year-old (her age, in case you didn't know already by her behavior) is mature in the slightest, or let alone even know the definition of the word.

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I'm reporting all three of you.
Don't waste your time trolling 12 years olds.

That's fine, we've already reported you. You should close this thread as well, because clearly you aren't ready to discuss a serious topic.

 

[cIementine]

She's the only one that continues to be ignorant and deny facts that have been shown to her over and over again. Also, I highly doubt a twelve-year-old (her age, in case you didn't know already by her behavior) is mature in the slightest, or let alone even know the definition of the word.

Well why is it even necessary to show her those facts? I'm pretty sure, after the many times you've said, that she gets the gist and honestly doesn't give a ****. She's probably had enough of your ****.
Don't be such a know it all, because you don't know it all. If you were to write me an essay on how to be nice, you'd be screwed.
Well, as a 12 year old myself, LittleBeary is one of the most mature people I have met my age.

 

[Mr. L]

Well why is it even necessary to show her those facts? I'm pretty sure, after the many times you've said, that she gets the gist and honestly doesn't give a ****. She's probably had enough of your ****.
Don't be such a know it all, because you don't know it all. If you were to write me an essay on how to be nice, you'd be screwed.
Well, as a 12 year old myself, LittleBeary is one of the most mature people I have met my age.

Congratulations, your opinion is automatically just as worthless as hers