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Look it up. It seems like there are a lot of rumors out there of Nintendo developing a couple new consoles, both supposedly using the code name Fusion. Now this is to be taken with a big grain of salt but if you search up those terms you'll see that there are apparently some leaked specs for the supposed new consoles. What do you think of this? Is this going to be Nintendo's "true" next generation console? It's sorta hard to believe but with the way everything is going for Wii U, it might be something, but who knows. I stress though these are just rumors.

Here are a couple articles: http://www.vg247.com/2014/01/21/nintendo-is-working-on-a-new-console-and-handheld-called-fusion-ds-and-fusion-terminal-massive-rumor/
http://www.nintendonews.com/2014/01/nintendo-fusion-could-be-nintendos-next-gen-hardware-name/
 
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The Wii U sold pretty lackluster compared to the other home consoles, they'd need much more time to think of how they'd improve on their flop. Most likely rumors.
 
Rumors start somewhere. I wouldn't be getting excited over anything or taking any of it to heart, but this would be the smart thing for Nintendo to do in regard to a home console.

The rumors about the new handheld are there too, and I guess the time would match up a little bit. Here in a few years we'd have reason to suspect a new handheld is on the way anyway. But again, these are just rumors. If you guys take the time to look back in TBT's history you'll find some threads where our older members were speculating about the Wii when it was just in it's rumor stages.

I kinda feel bad that the Wii U was such a flop(especially because I bought one), but if there is any truth to these rumors, then maybe Nintendo finally learned from their mistake.
 
Rumors start somewhere. I wouldn't be getting excited over anything or taking any of it to heart, but this would be the smart thing for Nintendo to do in regard to a home console.

The rumors about the new handheld are there too, and I guess the time would match up a little bit. Here in a few years we'd have reason to suspect a new handheld is on the way anyway. But again, these are just rumors. If you guys take the time to look back in TBT's history you'll find some threads where our older members were speculating about the Wii when it was just in it's rumor stages.

I kinda feel bad that the Wii U was such a flop(especially because I bought one), but if there is any truth to these rumors, then maybe Nintendo finally learned from their mistake.

I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. Obviously even if anything did occur, then it wouldn't be for a while anyway. I feel bad for the Wii U as well. I have one and I really think there are some quality games coming out this year. There is going to Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros., Bayonetta, but it's definitely lost its chance to become a major player in this generation. It just seems odd how quickly rumors have already started for another home console, but eh anything could happen.
 
I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. Obviously even if anything did occur, then it wouldn't be for a while anyway. I feel bad for the Wii U as well. I have one and I really think there are some quality games coming out this year. There is going to Mario Kart 8, Super Smash Bros., Bayonetta, but it's definitely lost its chance to become a major player in this generation. It just seems odd how quickly rumors have already started for another home console, but eh anything could happen.

It's easy to jump into thinking they might be working on one, considering how well known it is at this point that Nintendo screwed up a little too much with this console. And you're right, there are quality games coming out soon, and quality games have already come out. But the sales just aren't doing them any justice. A lot of people don't want to get a console just for three our four good titles and then have nothing else.
It's like when the 3DS first came out. The release for that was awful, and for a while it looked like it was going to flop pretty bad but they managed to revive it and make it probably the best handheld console out there. But their chances of doing that with the Wii U, at this point, are pretty close to none. They'll probably get some boosts with Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and maybe Bayonetta, but not enough to match the sales they had expected to make.

So while it's not impossible for them to have already started working, or even in the least planning a new console it's most likely just that. Planning. Any rumors going around probably have a grain of truth or two, but it's Nintendo and lately they've had a record of making everyone disappointed.
 
Man, isn't it a little too soon for a new console? I haven't even got a Wii U yet.

And what's wrong with the Wii U? <-- not defending it, I don't even have one.
 
Man, isn't it a little too soon for a new console? I haven't even got a Wii U yet.

And what's wrong with the Wii U? <-- not defending it, I don't even have one.

Well, some say that the Wii U is lackluster spec wise compared to other next gen consoles. As well as really bad sales figures and not enough games in the Wii U's library to sustain itself. There are some really great games coming out this year though, but Nintendo has made some really bad marketing decisions as well as not using the consoles full potential. That's all I got off the top of my head, it's a shame it's not doing better :/
 
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Well, some say that the Wii U is lackluster spec wise compared to other next gen consoles. As well as really bad sales figures and not enough games in the Wii U's library to sustain itself. There are some really great games coming out this year though, but Nintendo has made some really bad marketing decisions as well as not using the consoles full potential. That's all I got off the top of my head, it's a shame it's not doing better :/
^This^

I do hope that Nintendo at least let the Wii U have a lifespan.
 
Honestly, in the last decade or so, what Nintendo consoles have done as well as they'd like?

The Wii did pretty badly. Yeah, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Zelda games sold well. Then you had your fanbase type games, such as AC and their backwards compatibility. But a lot of games that were meant to use the Wii's motion-sensing tech just did not do so well, such as Sonic and the Secret Rings (absolutely awful.)

I never saw much in the DSi, either. It did pave the way for the 3DS, which is my second favorite handheld ever next to the Gameboy Color (sentimental reasons.) It didn't sell too hot, either. It played all the same games as the DS and the DS Lite, and while it had some downloadables, those were available already on the Wii. But I don't think any of these things are the real problem here.

The problem seems to be that Nintendo doesn't change where fans think they need to. Their online is average at best, in comparison. But it's definitely more sound than the Playstation Network, with it's almost yearly hacks, and it's awesome that they keep it so affordable unlike Xbox Live. Yet to gamers, it just doesn't have what it needs to totally succeed in today's market. Miiverse was a great start- but they won't let you actually use it for its intended purposes. They wanted us to meet and communicate and play together. But nope, no friend codes. Don't actually play together, just do it in theory.

They're trying. Trying so hard. It just isn't working. But please understand why. It's simple; they want to stay loyal as a family console. For that thought, that idea, it works. All of these features work well for an great family experience. Kids can play Animal Crossing or Pokemon with their distant cousins. They can talk to other players without worrying about their personal information being obtained. For that, I respect them. I respect the crap out of Nintendo because, let's face it, kids have absolutely no place playing games with the adults on Xbox Live who can't seem to watch their language and the people on PC titles who seem to do nothing but talk nasty and pick fights.

Unfortunately for Nintendo, it's beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The people who review these consoles are also the people who rage on Battlefield's multiplayer. They're the ones who give out all their money to play World of Warcraft (which I do occasionally play) but spend most of their time complaining about the game's changes, and all the new players. Gamers lately don't seem to play for story or character as much; a consistent multiplayer title will almost always do better than a deep, well thought-out story. So, when the multiplayer isn't on the same level as other big home consoles, that beauty they could be admiring will be easily forgotten.

If we stand back and look at the big picture, these games are the ones we love and grew up with. But we have to remember that they're intended for children and families. While it sucks that we don't get the things we want, we have to remember that time and time again, we do actually get the things we want. We get preordering content such as specially embellished strategy guides, collector's figures, and so much more that is in no way meant for a family to put on their coffee tables when guests come over.

But the Wii U and the Nintendo 3DS are actually great consoles. Their graphics are, in my constant opinion, great. Not all of their games are for everyone. I don't play Cooking Mama, and every now and again I may play Nintendogs or download a Virtual Console game. But if you buy your console and you can find just a few titles that are so great, it's been months and you still can't put them down, I think the console's done its job.

And, if the console can entertain adults and children alike without needing consistent language, 'mature' references and listening to rude, raging people online constantly, it's a winning, 10/10 console in my book.
 
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Yearly hacks is stretching it a bit I think for PSN. But Nintendo does need to innovate with their online or they will get left behind, regardless of "winning". You can only solo it so far before you sputter out, they need more third party support or they will die out.
 
Honestly, in the last decade or so, what Nintendo consoles have done as well as they'd like?

The Wii did pretty badly. Yeah, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, and Zelda games sold well. Then you had your fanbase type games, such as AC and their backwards compatibility. But a lot of games that were meant to use the Wii's motion-sensing tech just did not do so well, such as Sonic and the Secret Rings (absolutely awful.)

Wii - Sold 100.30 million units.
PS3 - Sold 80 million units
X360 - Sold 80 million units.

Wii did badly okay.
 
Wii - Sold 100.30 million units.
PS3 - Sold 80 million units
X360 - Sold 80 million units.

Wii did badly okay.

lol yeah.. I was gonna say.

you should take a look at how well their games sold too. That info you showed is just the console itself.
 
lol yeah.. I was gonna say.

you should take a look at how well their games sold too. That info you showed is just the console itself.

TIME FOR ANOTHER LIST.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

Wii Sports - Sold 82.98 million
Mario Kart Wii - Sold 34.26 million

The only thin that comes close to that is Grand Theft Auto V, selling 29 million.

And Minecraft doesn't count for Xbox 360 or PS3 for this. It sold 7.3 million under Pocket Edition, and 12 million under the PC version, meaning only 13 million counts for 360/PS3. Even then, a little lower, because of Raspberry Pi.
 
I should have clarified better. The Wii sold well. Can't deny that. But it wasn't the big console at the time. It wasn't the one that you heard people chatting about at gaming conventions and such. Its big titles were, of course, mainstream games, but as far as coverage and media goes, the XBox 360 and Playstation 3 were dominating it at the time with their "innovative" multiplayer and the games growing and growing in edgy content. I am, of course, pro-Nintendo in this whole argument. The Wii sold tremendously better than its own predecessors, such as the Gamecube and the Nintendo 64, and it even trumped the other game consoles in its generation. But it also focused a lot on mainstream titles. The real risky games, the ones with difficult controls or new peripherals, weren't their mainstream family games. We didn't get a bad Mario game. The closest to a bad Zelda game was the Crossbow training, but even it had entertainment value. Like I said, I'm pro-Nintendo, but they take no risks, and it's hard to lose on a console like the Wii when you don't really try something new throughout the console's lifespan. The whole thing was something new, but they didn't really branch from that. What I'm saying is that unlike the 360 and the PS3, it didn't leave nearly as much as a mark for those lines of consoles. The Wii U was a big risk, making a console that uses a tablet as a controller. I like the idea a lot. Two of the families in my area have them and they absolutely love them. Sales figures may have shown that it was a "flop" but the games that came out for it have an entertainment value for the people they intended the games to come out for. All I'm trying to say here is that I don't consider Nintendo to be a "failure" lately, or that their multiplayer is necessarily "behind." It may not have the same features as other consoles and companies, but it's doing what Nintendo wants it to do and what any good parent would want to subject their kids to. I don't know about you, but I don't want my children when I'm older playing games online and finding a way to sneak on the game chat to hear a bunch of neckbeards talking badly about their mother and cursing like a sailor on crack. That's not appealing. And that's exactly what Nintendo is trying to eliminate on their consoles.
 
TIME FOR ANOTHER LIST.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

Wii Sports - Sold 82.98 million
Mario Kart Wii - Sold 34.26 million

The only thin that comes close to that is Grand Theft Auto V, selling 29 million.

And Minecraft doesn't count for Xbox 360 or PS3 for this. It sold 7.3 million under Pocket Edition, and 12 million under the PC version, meaning only 13 million counts for 360/PS3. Even then, a little lower, because of Raspberry Pi.

Do the pi ones count? I mean, it's free for the pi, would that count towards sold?
 
I think where Nintendo are going wrong is releasing consoles too often. The Wii U was released just over a year ago and they are talking about two new consoles already (it probably isn't true but still). The reason Xbox 1 and PS4 are going to sell more/sold more (I think they will sell better) is because they haven't released a console in about 5 or 6 years.
 
While Wii U is an amazing home console and have great games, the marketing strategy behind it didn't worked quite well in Nintendo's favor. If they want to compete the home console market if their innovation aspect fails to capture everyone's interest, the best way for them is to have every technical aspects to be around the same level of quality of two other gaming giants would produce. That alone would even out Nintendo on when it comes to attracting big name 3rd party developers, and less shovelwares would be spawned.

I think that announcing new Nintendo home console this year would be a poor choice. Why not let the Wii U attempt turning the tides of the unfortunate event and have a proper marketing strategy?
 
Nintendo definitely needs to focus a bit more on the specs of their home consoles. It's what makes them a bit of a laughingstock with other gaming systems.
 
Nintendo needs to stop looking at micro details and look at the big picture. For instance, look at Miiverse. You can post pictures and status updates and connect with people who play the same games. But the big picture? It's only chatting, which you can do on forums like TBT. No FC sharing, which means people can't play together. Really, Nintendo?

These are rumors, and I doubt they will happen. It's too early for a new console anyways, though the Wii U was a flop.
 
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