After Mog being killed last night, I believe that there's scum between Panda and Karla, I'm adamant that there is. and I'm definitely leaning towards Panda. I'm pretty set on voting Panda today, but I'll lay off and wait until a little later before deciding. There's likely 3 mafia and 1(or two?) third party? we need to work hard today, we can't really risk lynching town again.
*Panda* - I want to start off by mentioning this:
Panda offered herself as a lynch to save Crys, which I don't think that scum would do.
The way Panda brought up the whole "I would have died for crys!" thing (on more than one occasion, may I add) when she was being questioned seems very weird to me, it just seems like she wants people to think exactly what Dolby thinks. I mean, people were already being suspicious of her a little, she had to do something to advert the negative attention, and make her undoubtedly town, and
"sacrificing" herself for crys is the best way to do that. I'd been thinking it, but Liam pointed out the fact that Panda said what she said to crys before she'd had many votes, so even if crys had changed her vote to Panda, she knew she'd be safe.
**There's something else about this whole thing that's off to me, Panda said this on Discord last night:
"Panda - Today at 3:06 AM
She had two and I had two so I told her to change"
However, after going back and looking at the votes, Panda and crys never each had two votes at one time? Just before Mog, Seroja and I voted Panda the votes were as follows; Crys-5, Panda-2, so Panda, when exactly did you tell/ask crys to change her vote, and when were you two each on two votes? I mean, I may have miscounted, but i doubt it. Panda knew that telling crys to vote her wouldn't make and difference to the lynch at all, all she knew it would do is make her look good, which it does, clearly, based on the fact Dolby thinks that makes Panda town.
I'd like to ask you something again,
Panda. I mentioned this to you in the Discord, but your answer made no sense at all. If you were so willing to die to save crys, then why did you get so angry/defensive when you thought you were going to be lynched at the end? I'd like to bring this up again and ask for further explanation, I don't by the whole "being lynched over chrys" thing, chrys wasn't really in it at this point, it was you and crys. If you were town willing to save the doc, why on earth were you so angry? surely that's what you wanted? (personally I don't think it was, you wanted to look good/town but stay safe, that's all). Just saying I don't buy it, any of it, at all.
I've only properly addressed the crys lynch thing, but that's not it all, I mean, just what on earth is going on between Panda and Chrys? and telling Liam to basically keep his mouth shut instead of answering his questions? Honestly what on earth. It's weird. I'll just leave it here for the time being though.
Karla - The main reason why Karla is so high on my list is the Mog thing. Like I said, either Karla or Panda is scum. Right now my main suspicions lie with Panda, but I'm still not letting go of the fact that there is a chance I might be being suspicious of the wrong one of the two. Likely the only reason I'd be any less sus of Karla is if Panda is lynched and flips red. I doubt they're both scum, I think there's one between them. The last few posts on the thread (by Karla) lead me to believe that he's telling the truth and is innocent, but maybe that's what he wants, to fool me or to make me trust him? I don't know, I agree with what he's said regarding Panda, but at the same time, it's really 50/50 between him and Panda, and I don't want to be making a mistake.
Chrystina - What Dolby posted about Chrys basically sums up my suspicions of her. I need to read over everything and make a big read here, that'll likely come later in the day.
Tom - I'm still not completely sure that I buy his claim, but I'm going to say I do for the most part. Anyway, he said he's more than willing to turn to scum if they had approached him, so basically he could turn to mafia and work for them at any point.
"TrentTom - Today at 2:15 AM
Mafia doesn't trust me enough to reach out directly so I'm sidin with town until I get that pretty letter"
I guess he's pretty easy to ignore (I'm not trusting him anyway, who knows when scum has reached out to him?) but slightly dangerous alive at the same time. Then again, thinking of it, what he's doing really is taking the spotlight away from him, which is what mafia would want. He's said he's working in the best interest of town, and I just don't see it or buy it, nope. However, at the same time, I don't really see him as a massive threat to town at the moment.
Dolby - Again, I don't really feel like I have massive reason or information to be suspicious, but I am still a little suspicious regardless. Dolby has been really rather quiet, both on the form and Discord (only really appearing when saod quietness is mentioned), just enough to advert suspicion and and the same time not enough to draw attention to themselves. Also, is there a reason you didn't vote D1?
Cory / Byngo / Ness - Null on these three, there isn't enough information on them to sway me either way and I haven't been able to form a strong opinion on any of them yet.
Seroja - Town, she hasn't said anything to make me think otherwise, a little null as there isn't that much information to sway me one way or the other, but definitely town for the most part.
Liam - I do find a few things odd, not going to bring up the PM thing at the start again, because that's been addressed and forgotten about. Liam does seem to be playing very differently to how he was in the last game where we played together (where i was paying a lot of attention to him) i'm sure he said somewhere (Discord?) that he's just trying to change his meta, and I buy that since he wasn't really taken lightly in the last game. I like how he's being so bold about the Panda thing, and I agree completely.
