Membership Restrictions

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This is the main reason why I skip all MMOs. First off, I do get that they need money to maintain ths website, but that is not your users' problem. You shouldn't force people to pay you monthly to have access to the actual "cool" stuff just because you need money so badly to maintain your website. If you need money, ask for donations instead. I know about a sandbox PC game called Osu!. It's a free game and its website asks for donations to help maintain it and it's doing very well.

Anyway, my main problem is how they execute this. Most MMOs lock almost everything from unpaid members. Some even result to just ridiculous restrictions. For example, Club Penguin allows you to play the games and earn coins. However, the only stuff you can buy with them are profile backgrounds, colors for your penguin and two variations of the puffles. Everything else is locked away, you can't buy furniture, clothing, or any of the other puffles. They even lock away some of the modes to some of them minigames.

Oh, but that's not the worst. Toontown is the worst offender. You barely can do or buy anything. They only let you do stuff in toontown central (in other towns, you can only fight cogs), they only let you play one race track in goofy's speedway and they give you barely any customization options for your car. You can't buy any clothing or furniture. You can only buy these pet things called doodles.

The more ridiculous membership restrictions is the fact that if someone gives you any gifts, you can't take them unless you are a member and that you can't fish in ponds, go into buildings or go on trolleys that aren't in toontown central.

Stuff like this is why I don't even bother with MMO's at all.
 
Toontown is a fun game, actually ; It lets you go in Level 1 buildings, Lets you talk to players.
Club Penguin is filled with snobby children, doesn't let you get clothing, You get bullied and EVERYTHING.
So yeah, Toontown is a better game. Besides, it has a better bargain than Club Penguin, DEFINETLY.
 
Toontown is a fun game, actually ; It lets you go in Level 1 buildings, Lets you talk to players.
Club Penguin is filled with snobby children, doesn't let you get clothing, You get bullied and EVERYTHING.
So yeah, Toontown is a better game. Besides, it has a better bargain than Club Penguin, DEFINETLY.

Here's the problem, I can't find the membership cards anywhere and my parents don't allow me to buy anything online. Plus, this is about membership restrictions. I don't like how you barely can do any of the cool stuff in the game unless you pay them monthly. Not to mention that toontown has ridiculous level grinding.

My point is that memberships and membership restrictions are unnecessary and they can use other ways to get money from that is more fair.

If I ever decide to create an MMO, I will allow people to have access to everything for free and just ask for donations to maintain the website.

Oh, and by the way, I never said that toontown is not fun. I just find the membership restrictions to be ridiculous and very limiting.
 
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Check out RIFT, it went free but it's not "going down the drain" nor is a "pay to win" type MMORPG.
The only piece of gear you can buy with real money is a ring from tier 1 but tier 2 is already out.
If you like raiding, pvp, dungeons, questing, then check it out.

It does require that you have a PC, however. It is also geared more towards older teens and adults so I'm not sure if you would find it interesting or not.
 
Aion is a pretty fun F2P MMO, and it just got an update with new classes from what I heard.

You need a decent computer but nothing too high end.
 
I used to play swtor then it became free to play and force you to switch server or your character gets deleted.
 
Toontown is a fun game, actually ; It lets you go in Level 1 buildings, Lets you talk to players.
Club Penguin is filled with snobby children, doesn't let you get clothing, You get bullied and EVERYTHING.
So yeah, Toontown is a better game. Besides, it has a better bargain than Club Penguin, DEFINETLY.
Actually, now Club Penguin has clothing for non-members. (Wait so your calling me snooty? o.o)
 
I used to play Club Penguin when my Dad brought me the full year membership but when that ran out I couldn't wear ANY of my membership clothing and there was literally no point to the game any more with my membership so that's when I just stopped playing. And pretty much the same happened to Toontown. I didn't want to buy the membership again because it would just waste more money because it will run out again :P It really sucks :/
 
Ugh, Runescape. LOVED that game to no end... Until I reached level 40 in everything. And had Adamantite armor. And had an Adamantite Scimitar. And I couldn't use any Rune equipment until I paid them. And fought this dragon thing I was too scared to fight. Everyone said that they did it at lvl 30-40 without a membership, I saw videos, and everything. NO WAY could I ever do it.

Oh yeah I actually did end up getting a membership. But, it was charging the credit card 7$ a month, and was annoying to cancel. They do have cards now that you can buy and it is 25-50$ that is used towards a membership so you don't need to get your credit card (Thank goodness). I never saw these cards before but I actually saw them in Walmart the other day. Now I feel like playing runescape again, but last time I tried playing it I couldn't log in. :/

OH! Also: I play this amazing game called "Realm of the Mad God" It is fricking boring in the beginning but once you get the hang of it, and max out the stats on one of your characters, omfg its great :D I have had the game for over a year and a half, and actually just started playing it again a few weeks ago. I have put a shameful amount of money into this game, but I still play it, and it is extremely fun for me still. I have 11 out of the 14 classes maxed out (Not entirely) and with pretty much the best equipment. (I have no life) But anyway, I have put 85$ into this stupid game >_> It is available on steam and in browser. I play on steam, but most everyone says it lags like nothing else. It is a 2d 8bit hell shooter MMO. Pretty much, monsters everywhere firing these things that you need to dodge, you kill them, get drops, and you work your way up with the better equipment from the more difficult dungeons and monsters. The community on the game sucks now compared to last year... So just a warning. There are still plenty of nice people, although there are still things I want to spend money for on this game, I have put almost 700 hours into it. -_-

***WARNING***

This game can be incredibly frustrating because it is a PERMA DEATH game and if you die with your character, you lose all of your equipment, all the stats you maxed... But you do acquire "fame" which determines how high you are on the leaderboards and you can use the fame to buy very minor things and feed "pets" that actually level up as well and help you in battle.. rediculous, I know.
 
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Ugh, Runescape. LOVED that game to no end... Until I reached level 40 in everything. And had Adamantite armor. And had an Adamantite Scimitar. And I couldn't use any Rune equipment until I paid them. And fought this dragon thing I was too scared to fight. Everyone said that they did it at lvl 30-40 without a membership, I saw videos, and everything. NO WAY could I ever do it.
Rune equipment is for free players stop talking crap.


Realm of the Mad God is fun. I just suck at it XD
 
The reason MMOs ask for a membership subscription (or microtransactions if you're playing an F2P game) is solely for keeping the game running, paying the people working on the game, and creating new content for the game. If they don't ask you for money in some way or form, there'd be no game to play in the first place...
 
I don't play Club Penguin a lot anymore(don't pin anything on me, I'm 11) and I still have the same membership I had from back in 2011. They have tons of parties nowadays and less things are member-limited than they used to be since they got new staff and older staff retired. They also have some clothes for non members too.

Like darkzero said, the only reason they have membership and ask for money is because it is used to maintain the game, add content and pay the staff. No membership = no game at all.
 
Membership would be ridiculous if you had to pay 5 bucks to continue the main story, if it has a story. I doubt there's a game out there that does that though.

If you don't like the membership, then don't play. Games still run because of membership/purchasable DLC. If owners ask for donations to upgrade the game further and they offer special in-game items for donating, well, that's fair. You pay, usually, around 5-10 bucks, you get a special item and the game gets awesomer. That's like a membership. If they just ask for money for no reason, that's when you get angry. As I said, without membership, half the games we play would not exist. (Does not include pure-Disney games because Disney is one hell of a rich company.)

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Membership would be ridiculous if you had to pay 5 bucks to continue the main story, if it has a story. I doubt there's a game out there that does that though.

If you don't like the membership, then don't play. Games still run because of membership/purchasable DLC. If owners ask for donations to upgrade the game further and they offer special in-game items for donating, well, that's fair. You pay, usually, around 5-10 bucks, you get a special item and the game gets awesomer. That's like a membership. If they just ask for money for no reason, that's when you get angry. As I said, without membership, half the games we play would not exist. (Does not include pure-Disney games because Disney is one hell of a rich company.)
 
The reason MMOs ask for a membership subscription (or microtransactions if you're playing an F2P game) is solely for keeping the game running, paying the people working on the game, and creating new content for the game. If they don't ask you for money in some way or form, there'd be no game to play in the first place...

Did you read my this thread carefully? I mentioned a game called osu! which asks people for donations to keep the site running. Also, disney is a wealthy company, why do they need money to maintain their website? Nintendo doesn't do that with their online stuff.
 
Did you read my this thread carefully? I mentioned a game called osu! which asks people for donations to keep the site running. Also, disney is a wealthy company, why do they need money to maintain their website? Nintendo doesn't do that with their online stuff.

Are you aware that you need to actually buy the system and you get online connectivity? That money they get from the buyer goes to them. So technically you pay 100-200 dollars for quality entertainment. ONCE.
 
Also, to everyone who is saying "without membership they wouldn't be able to maintain the servers and everything", I know that. I never said that they shouldn't ask for money at all. I am mostly complaining about them locking away the majority of the game unless you pay them monthly. What I feel is that they should make users have access to everything. However, they can give little bonuses to people who pay or donate but it doesn't make it seem like they are getting more of game then the non-paying players.

This membership stuff that disney is doing is nothing but a money grab in my opinion. That's why I no longer play any of their MMOs.

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Are you aware that you need to actually buy the system and you get online connectivity? That money they get from the buyer goes to them. So technically you pay 100-200 dollars for quality entertainment. ONCE.

Yeah, but disney gets paid for making their merchandise, cartoons, tv shows, movies etc. so my point still has credibility considering that many people buy their stuff and watch their stuff.
 
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I'm still playing WoW every few months, mostly just for lore though... I don't mind paying either. Ever since i tried a lot of F2P MMO's World of Warcraft is pretty nice and clean~ (besides some jerks and childish players on some servers)
 
That's why I haven't played Runescape since my membership ran out, all the things I really like, I'm fairly sure I need the membership back. (Maybe next month...)

At least in the meantime, I can just vicariously experience it through my wife's account because she's a lot farther in everything than me, since she's gotten several skills to level 99 and stuff. :p

Micro-transactions and stuff are more annoying to me than actually paying for a membership, it's like they're just trying to gouge every last cent out of you. -.-
 
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