Lucas discussion continued.

[UltraByte]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

 

[Propaganda Man]

And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

Which is one of the reasons why George Lucas is such a good filmmaker.

He is innovative. But he isn't the best.

No one's "the best". That's just impossible to judge in my opinion.

I personally think Peter Jackson is one of the greatest ever.

 

[Propaganda Man]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

 

[Jeremy]

And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

Which is one of the reasons why George Lucas is such a good filmmaker.

He is innovative. But he isn't the best.

No one's "the best". That's just impossible to judge in my opinion.

I personally think Peter Jackson is one of the greatest ever.

That's your opinion. Oh, and all he did is direct, he didn't make up the story or do anything else. Look at Lucas with all the new special effects, THX, Pixar, ILM... And if you look at other movies of the time, the stories are much slower... SW was a pretty fast paced film... kept the audience on the edge of their seats.

 

[UltraByte]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

 

[Jeremy]

Yah, I don' see how Fantasia would be in the same "league" as SW...

 

[Propaganda Man]

And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

Which is one of the reasons why George Lucas is such a good filmmaker.

He is innovative. But he isn't the best.

No one's "the best". That's just impossible to judge in my opinion.

I personally think Peter Jackson is one of the greatest ever.

That's your opinion. Oh, and all he did is direct, he didn't write or do anything else. Look at Lucas with all the new special effects, THX, Pixar, ILM... And if you look at other movies of the time, the stories are much slower... SW was a pretty fast paced film... kept the audience on the edge of their seats.

Jackson brought up a way to do large battles. I mean LAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE. He also took away very little from the book.

He had dedication in making an outstanding movie, not getting paid.

 

[Propaganda Man]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

 

[Propaganda Man]

Yah, I don' see how Fantasia would be in the same "league" as SW...

Why wouldn't it?

 

[UltraByte]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

 

[Propaganda Man]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

Well you really are the minority on this one.

 

[UltraByte]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

Well you really are the minority on this one.

I don't understand why I'm a minority. I'm a DISNEY GEEK. I know a crapload on Disney movies and stuff.

 

[Propaganda Man]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

Well you really are the minority on this one.

I don't understand why I'm a minority. I'm a DISNEY GEEK. I know a crapload on Disney movies and stuff.

Because the majority says it was ahead of its time. Disney says a decade.

 

[UltraByte]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

Well you really are the minority on this one.

I don't understand why I'm a minority. I'm a DISNEY GEEK. I know a crapload on Disney movies and stuff.

Because the majority says it was ahead of its time. Disney says a decade.

Where does it say that at? Proof plz, and don't give me Wikipedia.

 

[Propaganda Man]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

Well you really are the minority on this one.

I don't understand why I'm a minority. I'm a DISNEY GEEK. I know a crapload on Disney movies and stuff.

Because the majority says it was ahead of its time. Disney says a decade.

Where does it say that at? Proof plz, and don't give me Wikipedia.

Disney World.

 

[Jeremy]

And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

Which is one of the reasons why George Lucas is such a good filmmaker.

He is innovative. But he isn't the best.

No one's "the best". That's just impossible to judge in my opinion.

I personally think Peter Jackson is one of the greatest ever.

That's your opinion. Oh, and all he did is direct, he didn't write or do anything else. Look at Lucas with all the new special effects, THX, Pixar, ILM... And if you look at other movies of the time, the stories are much slower... SW was a pretty fast paced film... kept the audience on the edge of their seats.

Jackson brought up a way to do large battles. I mean LAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE. He also took away very little from the book.

He had dedication in making an outstanding movie, not getting paid.

LoTR, was a great movie, but you're saying the director of it was a genius because it had some big battles? That doesn't compare to what Lucas did. If Jackson was so much better, LoTR would have revolutionized the movie industry as much as SW did... but it didn't.

 

[UltraByte]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

Well you really are the minority on this one.

I don't understand why I'm a minority. I'm a DISNEY GEEK. I know a crapload on Disney movies and stuff.

Because the majority says it was ahead of its time. Disney says a decade.

Where does it say that at? Proof plz, and don't give me Wikipedia.

Disney World.

Oh my god.

That's not proof. I wanted a website or something.

 

[Propaganda Man]

And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

Which is one of the reasons why George Lucas is such a good filmmaker.

He is innovative. But he isn't the best.

No one's "the best". That's just impossible to judge in my opinion.

I personally think Peter Jackson is one of the greatest ever.

That's your opinion. Oh, and all he did is direct, he didn't write or do anything else. Look at Lucas with all the new special effects, THX, Pixar, ILM... And if you look at other movies of the time, the stories are much slower... SW was a pretty fast paced film... kept the audience on the edge of their seats.

Jackson brought up a way to do large battles. I mean LAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE. He also took away very little from the book.

He had dedication in making an outstanding movie, not getting paid.

LoTR, was a great movie, but you're saying the director of it was a genius because it had some big battles? That doesn't compare to what Lucas did. If Jackson was so much better, LoTR would have revolutionized the movie industry as much as SW did... but it didn't.

I never said Lucas was bad or that Jackson was a genius. They are some of the greatest film makers of all time in my opinion.

 

[Propaganda Man]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

Well you really are the minority on this one.

I don't understand why I'm a minority. I'm a DISNEY GEEK. I know a crapload on Disney movies and stuff.

Because the majority says it was ahead of its time. Disney says a decade.

Where does it say that at? Proof plz, and don't give me Wikipedia.

Disney World.

Oh my god.

That's not proof. I wanted a website or something.

I heard it at Disney World. I forgot where but it was part of whatever we were doing. They were talking about Fantasia and how it was ahead of its time.

But because I need to prove it to you I'm going to fly down there and recored it

 

[UltraByte]

If by "timing" you mean because the movies were "beyond their time", then, yes, that has a little bit to do with their success. This, has nothing to do with luck or being "in the right place at the right time" of course though. Star Wars revolutionized movies. Think about it... THX... Pixar... special effects in general. These are some of the things that came from Star Wars and George Lucas.

Fantasia And Star Wars were ahead of their time. Thats why they came out at the right time. There was nothing else like it before.

WHAT THE HELL.

FANTASIA?

Was done by Disney, NOT Pixar, thanks... Seriously, at least KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'm not talking about Pixar


:huh: Jeez.

You were trying to.

Storm brought up Pixar, and you brought up Fantasia. Nice one.

Storm said Star Wars was ahead of its time. I was giving another example


:huh:

Then why'd you bring up Fantasia? You could have brought up Snow White.... Flowers and Trees..... Finding Nemo...

Because Fantasia was a decade ahead of its time.


:huh: Its not a bad example.

Steamboat Willie was more innovative than Fantasia, being the world's first cartoon to be synchronized to music.

That was a show, right?

I'm just gave a move as an example.

Did I do something wrong?

Yeah, it was a 5 minute cartoon.

You didn't give a better example. Fantasia was amazingly good, but it wasn't the world's first cartoon to be synchronized with music, or the world's first appearance of Mickey Mouse, or the world's first fully colored cartoon, OR the world's first full-length feature animation.

Was it ahead of its time?

Not really.

Well you really are the minority on this one.

I don't understand why I'm a minority. I'm a DISNEY GEEK. I know a crapload on Disney movies and stuff.

Because the majority says it was ahead of its time. Disney says a decade.

Where does it say that at? Proof plz, and don't give me Wikipedia.

Disney World.

Oh my god.

That's not proof. I wanted a website or something.

I heard it at Disney World. I forgot where but it was part of whatever we were doing. They were talking about Fantasia and how it was ahead of its time.

But because I need to prove it to you I'm going to fly down there and recored it

I just finished reading a huge book on the Art of Walt Disney, and it said nothing about Fantasia being ahead of it's time.