^^^^Mino said:And Megan Fox is a woman for the tasteless.
^^^^Mino said:And Megan Fox is a woman for the tasteless.
Okay, then. I have no problem with other people's religious beliefs, but when people claim that their religion (or lack thereof) is fact, end of discussion, then that's when things have gone too far. I don't care if you're atheist or theist, it doesn't matter. Nobody knows for certain what the true religion is, we only believe. And that belief is your belief, not others'.Mino said:I didn't really intend to say I was saying it was a fact, but I do certainly believe everything I claimed there. However, I was actually mirroring his insane decision to post that picture in here with a diatribe against theistic religion.Tyeforce said:Hey, don't just flat out say that there's no God like that. Pointing out the flaws of Christianity and the Bible is one thing, but saying that there is no God like you know it for a fact is a bit too far. I'm not really a Christian, as I disagree with all of the nonsense, but I do believe that there is a God and there is an afterlife. I may not have hard proof that either exist, but you don't have hard proof that either don't exist, so don't claim it as a fact.Mino said:Hey, guess what?David said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep![]()
There is no God, your parents have lied to you your entire life. You've spent your life eating up everything you were spoon fed by those older than you. You've entered a perpetuating cycle of ignorance, hate, and smug superiority that will preclude your attempts at finding friends or women of any worthwhile caliber. I can only hope that someday you'll experience the soul-crushing realization that you've spent your hypocritical life with some particularly ugly delusions. Perhaps such an event will have to wait until your inevitable death, when the bleak, yawning infinity will swallow you and your mind, and the sudden, unexpected loneliness will be the last thing you experience before oblivion.
The fact is, I find it hilarious that he parades around his heterosexuality like he did something to earn it.
And Megan Fox is a woman for the tasteless.
What reason? To prevent TBT members from having engaging conversation once in a while? To prevent people from having their fragile sensibilities threatened?Conor said:# Prohibited Topics/Posts
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I'm still trying to figure out why you have a suggestive picture of Michael Jackson in your signature.Fabioisonfire said:GAY PEOPLE!?
I'm still trying to figure out where you get your misplaced sense of self-righteousness.Tyeforce said:I'm still trying to figure out why you have a suggestive picture of Michael Jackson in your signature.Fabioisonfire said:GAY PEOPLE!?
I don't think I'm better than everyone, nor that I'm always right, so shut the hell up. >_>Fabioisonfire said:I'm still trying to figure out where you get your misplaced sense of self-righteousness.Tyeforce said:I'm still trying to figure out why you have a suggestive picture of Michael Jackson in your signature.Fabioisonfire said:GAY PEOPLE!?
That statement alone was hypocritical in itself.Tyeforce said:I don't think I'm better than everyone, nor that I'm always right, so shut the hell up. >_>Fabioisonfire said:I'm still trying to figure out where you get your misplaced sense of self-righteousness.Tyeforce said:I'm still trying to figure out why you have a suggestive picture of Michael Jackson in your signature.Fabioisonfire said:GAY PEOPLE!?
If anything, that describes you, not me. I'm not self-righteous. I don't think that I'm superior to other people, and I openly admit that I'm not always right. I don't know why you and people like you think things like that, because I make it clear in my posts that I'm not like that. Unless you're taking my posts out of context, or just like to make up things that you believe I said, which people seemingly love to do around here. >_>Fabioisonfire said:That statement alone was hypocritical in itself.Tyeforce said:I don't think I'm better than everyone, nor that I'm always right, so shut the hell up. >_>Fabioisonfire said:I'm still trying to figure out where you get your misplaced sense of self-righteousness.Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I think many people here would argue the opposite.
YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE DON'T YOU?!Tyeforce said:If anything, that describes you, not me. I'm not self-righteous. I don't think that I'm superior to other people, and I openly admit that I'm not always right. I don't know why you and people like you think things like that, because I make it clear in my posts that I'm not like that. Unless you're taking my posts out of context, or just like to make up things that you believe I said, which people seemingly love to do around here. >_>Fabioisonfire said:That statement alone was hypocritical in itself.Tyeforce said:I don't think I'm better than everyone, nor that I'm always right, so shut the hell up. >_>Fabioisonfire said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I think many people here would argue the opposite.
So you resort to trolling, now? lolFabioisonfire said:YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE DON'T YOU?!Tyeforce said:If anything, that describes you, not me. I'm not self-righteous. I don't think that I'm superior to other people, and I openly admit that I'm not always right. I don't know why you and people like you think things like that, because I make it clear in my posts that I'm not like that. Unless you're taking my posts out of context, or just like to make up things that you believe I said, which people seemingly love to do around here. >_>Fabioisonfire said:That statement alone was hypocritical in itself.Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I think many people here would argue the opposite.
I just like *censored.3.0*ing with you because you remind me of unstable kids at school that I can make fun of. That's essentially what you are.Tyeforce said:So you resort to trolling, now? lolFabioisonfire said:YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE DON'T YOU?!Tyeforce said:If anything, that describes you, not me. I'm not self-righteous. I don't think that I'm superior to other people, and I openly admit that I'm not always right. I don't know why you and people like you think things like that, because I make it clear in my posts that I'm not like that. Unless you're taking my posts out of context, or just like to make up things that you believe I said, which people seemingly love to do around here. >_>Fabioisonfire said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I'm aware that I'm very easy to make fun of. And guess what? I don't care. I've dealt with it my whole life, and nothing will change who I am. Besides, making fun of me isn't going to make you look any better yourself or anything.Fabioisonfire said:I just like *censored.3.0*ing with you because you remind me of unstable kids at school that I can make fun of. That's essentially what you are.Tyeforce said:So you resort to trolling, now? lolFabioisonfire said:YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE DON'T YOU?!Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepyou, not me. I'm not self-righteous. I don't think that I'm superior to other people, and I openly admit that I'm not always right. I don't know why you and people like you think things like that, because I make it clear in my posts that I'm not like that. Unless you're taking my posts out of context, or just like to make up things that you believe I said, which people seemingly love to do around here. >_>
Not like I can get much better, anyway. Good looking, active in the community, charming, athletic, talented, Italian; what's not to love?! I'm awesome.Tyeforce said:I'm aware that I'm very easy to make fun of. And guess what? I don't care. I've dealt with it my whole life, and nothing will change who I am. Besides, making fun of me isn't going to make you look any better yourself or anything.Fabioisonfire said:I just like *censored.3.0*ing with you because you remind me of unstable kids at school that I can make fun of. That's essentially what you are.Tyeforce said:So you resort to trolling, now? lolFabioisonfire said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepyou
I think you should re-examine the nature of belief. Belief is based on reason and evidence. The end of the discussion does not come when someone states what they believe is true (in their minds, "a fact"), but when mutual understanding is achieved, whether it be a like-minded consensus or a new insight into the nature of the opposing side. I reject the idea that all beliefs are equal, for surely you do not believes in a flat-earth or other unsupported claims? Religions is not immune to criticism and rational critique, nor should it be. Unfortunately some people feel that it's not acceptable to assess the quality of others' beliefs, but a belief without evidence is one not worth holding.Tyeforce said:Okay, then. I have no problem with other people's religious beliefs, but when people claim that their religion (or lack thereof) is fact, end of discussion, then that's when things have gone too far. I don't care if you're atheist or theist, it doesn't matter. Nobody knows for certain what the true religion is, we only believe. And that belief is your belief, not others'.Mino said:I didn't really intend to say I was saying it was a fact, but I do certainly believe everything I claimed there. However, I was actually mirroring his insane decision to post that picture in here with a diatribe against theistic religion.Tyeforce said:Hey, don't just flat out say that there's no God like that. Pointing out the flaws of Christianity and the Bible is one thing, but saying that there is no God like you know it for a fact is a bit too far. I'm not really a Christian, as I disagree with all of the nonsense, but I do believe that there is a God and there is an afterlife. I may not have hard proof that either exist, but you don't have hard proof that either don't exist, so don't claim it as a fact.Mino said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deep![]()
The fact is, I find it hilarious that he parades around his heterosexuality like he did something to earn it.
And Megan Fox is a woman for the tasteless.
Mino said:I think you should re-examine the nature of belief. Belief is based on reason and evidence. The end of the discussion does not come when someone states what they believe is true (in their minds, "a fact"), but when mutual understanding is achieved, whether it be a like-minded consensus or a new insight into the nature of the opposing side. I reject the idea that all beliefs are equal, for surely you do not believes in a flat-earth or other unsupported claims? Religions is not immune to criticism and rational critique, nor should it be. Unfortunately some people feel that it's not acceptable to assess the quality of others' beliefs, but a belief without evidence is one not worth holding.Tyeforce said:Okay, then. I have no problem with other people's religious beliefs, but when people claim that their religion (or lack thereof) is fact, end of discussion, then that's when things have gone too far. I don't care if you're atheist or theist, it doesn't matter. Nobody knows for certain what the true religion is, we only believe. And that belief is your belief, not others'.Mino said:I didn't really intend to say I was saying it was a fact, but I do certainly believe everything I claimed there. However, I was actually mirroring his insane decision to post that picture in here with a diatribe against theistic religion.Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepdon't exist, so don't claim it as a fact.![]()
The fact is, I find it hilarious that he parades around his heterosexuality like he did something to earn it.
And Megan Fox is a woman for the tasteless.
On the question of atheism vs. theism, that is not the actual dichotomy you were discussing. Whether or not God exists is a question I don't think can be answered, for by definition he is outside the natural world, the cosmos as we experience them. The belief in a non-intervening, impersonal God is called deism, a belief you'll find frequently among many Enlightenment thinkers, such as America's "Founding Fathers" (a clich
Mino said:I think you should re-examine the nature of belief. Belief is based on reason and evidence. The end of the discussion does not come when someone states what they believe is true (in their minds, "a fact"), but when mutual understanding is achieved, whether it be a like-minded consensus or a new insight into the nature of the opposing side. I reject the idea that all beliefs are equal, for surely you do not believes in a flat-earth or other unsupported claims? Religions is not immune to criticism and rational critique, nor should it be. Unfortunately some people feel that it's not acceptable to assess the quality of others' beliefs, but a belief without evidence is one not worth holding.Tyeforce said:Okay, then. I have no problem with other people's religious beliefs, but when people claim that their religion (or lack thereof) is fact, end of discussion, then that's when things have gone too far. I don't care if you're atheist or theist, it doesn't matter. Nobody knows for certain what the true religion is, we only believe. And that belief is your belief, not others'.Mino said:I didn't really intend to say I was saying it was a fact, but I do certainly believe everything I claimed there. However, I was actually mirroring his insane decision to post that picture in here with a diatribe against theistic religion.Tyeforce said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepdon't exist, so don't claim it as a fact.![]()
The fact is, I find it hilarious that he parades around his heterosexuality like he did something to earn it.
And Megan Fox is a woman for the tasteless.
On the question of atheism vs. theism, that is not the actual dichotomy you were discussing. Whether or not God exists is a question I don't think can be answered, for by definition he is outside the natural world, the cosmos as we experience them. The belief in a non-intervening, impersonal God is called deism, a belief you'll find frequently among many Enlightenment thinkers, such as America's "Founding Fathers" (a clich
Tyeforce said:Mino said:I think you should re-examine the nature of belief. Belief is based on reason and evidence. The end of the discussion does not come when someone states what they believe is true (in their minds, "a fact"), but when mutual understanding is achieved, whether it be a like-minded consensus or a new insight into the nature of the opposing side. I reject the idea that all beliefs are equal, for surely you do not believes in a flat-earth or other unsupported claims? Religions is not immune to criticism and rational critique, nor should it be. Unfortunately some people feel that it's not acceptable to assess the quality of others' beliefs, but a belief without evidence is one not worth holding.Tyeforce said:Okay, then. I have no problem with other people's religious beliefs, but when people claim that their religion (or lack thereof) is fact, end of discussion, then that's when things have gone too far. I don't care if you're atheist or theist, it doesn't matter. Nobody knows for certain what the true religion is, we only believe. And that belief is your belief, not others'.Mino said:Quoting limited to 4 levels deepdon't![]()
On the question of atheism vs. theism, that is not the actual dichotomy you were discussing. Whether or not God exists is a question I don't think can be answered, for by definition he is outside the natural world, the cosmos as we experience them. The belief in a non-intervening, impersonal God is called deism, a belief you'll find frequently among many Enlightenment thinkers, such as America's "Founding Fathers" (a clich