League of Legends

[Isabella]

Watching streams probably won't really help. You need to play to realize where you are lacking, then fix those lacking areas and improve. It sucks to be bronze, but if you can't get proper games in normals, then maybe it's not too bad spending some time in bronze and working your way out.

yeah I think I've been noticing how I can improve. but for example today I had like 4 or 5 games with 1-2 afk's, and one troll game that we ended up winning. it's just hard to even improve when people take this game as a joke, i mean i know it's a game but why even play if you're just going to not even play or rage and then leave? they just leave it to like 1 or 2 people to carry and its almost impossible when it's like 5v3. maybe i just have really bad luck but every single game i've been in today has been all afk's, trolls, or ragers sigh. if i'm doing the best i can as a jungle for example i can't be in 3 lanes at once, with the adc alone no support, a top who was doing bad yet wouldn't go in when i did and then left, mid getting camped by a jungler. it's just so sucky and i don't know if i want to jump into a ranked game only to probably get even more afk's and trolls like that

 

[Miaa]

yeah I think I've been noticing how I can improve. but for example today I had like 4 or 5 games with 1-2 afk's, and one troll game that we ended up winning. it's just hard to even improve when people take this game as a joke, i mean i know it's a game but why even play if you're just going to not even play or rage and then leave? they just leave it to like 1 or 2 people to carry and its almost impossible when it's like 5v3. maybe i just have really bad luck but every single game i've been in today has been all afk's, trolls, or ragers sigh. if i'm doing the best i can as a jungle for example i can't be in 3 lanes at once, with the adc alone no support, a top who was doing bad yet wouldn't go in when i did and then left, mid getting camped by a jungler. it's just so sucky and i don't know if i want to jump into a ranked game only to probably get even more afk's and trolls like that

When you play the world's most played game, it's pretty reasonable to expect trolls 24/7. Heck, ELO hell doesn't end till like Diamond1 (not joking). You can play 500 & not have your skill improve. I'd say wait to play rank & try to find a group who has higher mmr. Premade teams that are playing to win are the best ways to learn. When I first started playing league my friends were 1600-1900 ELO. It sucked playing with them because I was always feeding! Can't expect a level1 to be able to beat a level30 with no experience. 2 years later I have solo queued my way to Diamond 5. From my experience, you learn from more challenging games. If I keep playing against, let's say bronze players, my skill won't necessarily improve, I hope this helps

 

[Amyy]

i wanna get better at adc but i cant kite D:

 

[Ashtot]

The best thing to do is to record your games and watch your mistakes. I know that when I see myself play I just facepalm.

 

[Riiiiptide]

yeah I think I've been noticing how I can improve. but for example today I had like 4 or 5 games with 1-2 afk's, and one troll game that we ended up winning. it's just hard to even improve when people take this game as a joke, i mean i know it's a game but why even play if you're just going to not even play or rage and then leave? they just leave it to like 1 or 2 people to carry and its almost impossible when it's like 5v3. maybe i just have really bad luck but every single game i've been in today has been all afk's, trolls, or ragers sigh. if i'm doing the best i can as a jungle for example i can't be in 3 lanes at once, with the adc alone no support, a top who was doing bad yet wouldn't go in when i did and then left, mid getting camped by a jungler. it's just so sucky and i don't know if i want to jump into a ranked game only to probably get even more afk's and trolls like that

Ah welcome to solo queue! That's something you just have to get used to. I generally just try to either make the best of those situations (can I break my record for cs by 20 mins?!) or something.

I do have to play another ranked game on my smurf and main either today or tomorrow to keep from going inactive. I guarantee I won't go AFK but I'll probably be pretty rusty if you wanted to duo queue one.

 

[Miaa]

i wanna get better at adc but i cant kite D:

There are videos on youtube that will show you how to change your keybindings to help you kite better.
Also, skins can break you or make you when it comes to kiting/last hitting.

Side-Note:
ADC & support have the LEAST amount of potential to carry a game.

 

[Ashtot]

ADC & support have the LEAST amount of potential to carry a game.

So true. ADC's have become pretty useless, especially lately.

 

[Riiiiptide]

So true. ADC's have become pretty useless, especially lately.

What?

 

[Ashtot]

What?

If you think about the effectiveness as a whole, ADC's get the short end of the stick. They do damage, but a lot of bruisers do more damage while also being able to sustain and live longer. ADC's are only valuable if they're peeled for, otherwise they're instantly dead in team fights.

 

[CookingOkasan]

bar a fed draven, adcs just can't carry. they're obviously not ~useless~ but compared to top and jungle their carry potential just isn't really there

 

[SincerelyDream]

League of Legends thread Views: 8,711.
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Enough said! (I miss DotA 1 though - That was awesome!)

Just because a game has more players doesn't make it better, your argument is flawed more people play League because League is noob friendly.

 

[Miaa]

bar a fed draven, adcs just can't carry. they're obviously not ~useless~ but compared to top and jungle their carry potential just isn't really there

Agreed. They're not entirely useless, but they just can't carry, sorry. Not sorry. I learned the hard way, I'm an adc main. A fed ADC will last 2 seconds against a decent bruiser. & you have to admit, no one in solo queue really knows how to peel -_-

 

[Sanaki]

no one in solo queue really knows how to peel -_-

I was in a ranked game and it's entirely true. Enemy Caitlyn stomped her lane but I would kill her instantly. Nobody really peeled for her either, and it's sort of hard to because Ahri is quick plus I had a Kayle on my team. Her and I carried really hard.. we'd always catch people out and get objectives.

 

[Ashtot]

I WISH I could carry as a support, because I love supporting, but you can't. Although you can get pretty close with Annie.

 

[Sanaki]

I WISH I could carry as a support, because I love supporting, but you can't. Although you can get pretty close with Annie.

Me as well. But I've been stuck supporting and losing every game lol. I used to win a lot more because I got mid and it's my best role. My win rate with Thresh was 1/5.. even though we'd win lane we'd lose game.. I was LUCKY to be 4th pick and get mid lane.

 

[Miaa]

Carry Potential:
Mid > Top > Jungle > ADC > Support

Though I play Ryze top lane.

I was in a ranked game and it's entirely true. Enemy Caitlyn stomped her lane but I would kill her instantly. Nobody really peeled for her either, and it's sort of hard to because Ahri is quick plus I had a Kayle on my team. Her and I carried really hard.. we'd always catch people out and get objectives.

Also, Kayle is 1 of the best ALL AROUND champions. You can virtually play her in ANY role.

 

[Sanaki]

Carry Potential:
Mid > Top > Jungle > ADC > Support

Though I play Ryze top lane.

Also, Kayle is 1 of the best ALL AROUND champion. You can virtually play in ANY role.

Yeah we were lucky that the enemy team didn't ban.. she saved me a few times. I'm only Silver 4 (decayed this morning, I was put in Silver 2 but I got demoted because I got stuck supporting and lost every game.. I CAN'T CARRY AS SUPPORT) so I don't know. But my boyfriend is plat 3 so he's taught me quite a bit of things.

 

[Riiiiptide]

Just because a game has more players doesn't make it better, your argument is flawed more people play League because League is noob friendly.

Your argument is also flawed because you did not clarify "better" in what sense. Maybe "noob friendly" whatever the world that means indicates "better" by the original category? Or perhaps "better" means more user-friendly and popularity by which number of views is definitely an indicator of that.

If you think about the effectiveness as a whole, ADC's get the short end of the stick. They do damage, but a lot of bruisers do more damage while also being able to sustain and live longer. ADC's are only valuable if they're peeled for, otherwise they're instantly dead in team fights.

First of all, what do you mean by sustain? Because AFAIK, ADC's are sustain-built with core items either BT or BotRK.

Secondly, if your ADC is "instantly dead in team fights" unless "they're peeled for" then that's a useless ADC. That's not all ADC being useless. Again as I said in previous posts, watch OGN, in particular watch Samsung teams. Samsung Blue had a Kog'maw going against an anti-kog composition including a J4 in the Masters Finals by SK Telecoms T1K. Don't generalize the mistakes and terrible positioning of poor ADC plays in the LCS to all ADC's.

This is the problem. Doublelift said ADC's were useless in the new patch blah blah blah and now everyone's repeating it. Well, we clearly saw Doublelift being wrong in the past week and he's admitted to it. So please, let's not continue this circlejerk. Yes, bot lane sucks in solo queue, not going to argue that. But to say ADC's are useless in this meta? No.

 

[Miaa]

This is the problem. Doublelift said ADC's were useless in the new patch blah blah blah and now everyone's repeating it. Well, we clearly saw Doublelift being wrong in the past week and he's admitted to it. So please, let's not continue this circlejerk. Yes, bot lane sucks in solo queue, not going to argue that. But to say ADC's are useless in this meta? No.

I don't ever watch pro players play. I've always felt that ADCs just didn't have enough carry potential. Period. & yet I play ADC because I think it's fun. I only ever play solo queue ): & ADCs are somewhat dependent on their team. I just don't like playing ADCs with randoms because of the sole fact that I can't rely on them.

 

[Riiiiptide]

Yeah not going to argue that playing ADC in solo queue is terrible. It is terrible, even when you have a duo support it can be rough in teamfights. But it's definitely not useless. There are D1 smurfs in D5 that destroy and carry the game there on ADC, for example.