Justin Bieber.
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^ I second this.
miley is gross to me because shes twerking. i dont care if she shows her body off to the world, cool do that.
but she shouldn't be twerking. not because she has no butt but if i said it i would probably get yelled at
dont understand how his fans like him as a person. ok hate for him when he first started was stupid - just because his voice was a bit feminine was dumb. just shows how annoying society is.
and then his voice got deeper and blahblah and now hes a jerk. like him for his music - dont like him for himself
theres like a list of what he did
but she shouldn't be twerking. not because she has no butt but if i said it i would probably get yelled at
dont understand how his fans like him as a person. ok hate for him when he first started was stupid - just because his voice was a bit feminine was dumb. just shows how annoying society is.
and then his voice got deeper and blahblah and now hes a jerk. like him for his music - dont like him for himself
theres like a list of what he did
nintendofan61
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*looks around* *slowly raises hand* I-I've been a Belieber since 2009.
I think they should change it to a:
Jerklieber. Just look at the past posts of what people know he's done.
bittermeat
Senior Member
I don't really have any opinion on him, he's just like any other person in the mainstream music industry.
If you like him, cool beans. If you don't, just ignore him and stop wasting your energy spreading hate. There's no use.
If you like him, cool beans. If you don't, just ignore him and stop wasting your energy spreading hate. There's no use.
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nintendofan61
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Totally agree. I like him for the music. His attitude the past year has been a turn off, but like I said, I'm here for the music. He was the first person I ever saw in concert back in 2010, and that'll always hold a special place in my heart. I do have to say though, I also give him props for always thanking God at awards shows, etc. People always see the bad, they never see the good. He's donated to sooo many charitys including Pencils of Promise which builds schools in less-fortunate places.
I agree with bittermeat, if you don't like him, just ignore and don't waste your time.
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SecondSider
Lord Kikuchiyo FTW
I never even liked his music. I prefer the classic great singers like Frank Sinatra, Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, and so forth.
I never liked Justin Bieber, not because of the music, but because of a bad experience I've had with meeting him once. I was hoping he'd be a friendly person, but nope. I was wrong. He slapped me across the face. I would've had a better experience with Julianne Moore, if only I wasn't too afraid to meet her.
I never liked Justin Bieber, not because of the music, but because of a bad experience I've had with meeting him once. I was hoping he'd be a friendly person, but nope. I was wrong. He slapped me across the face. I would've had a better experience with Julianne Moore, if only I wasn't too afraid to meet her.
Lol.
It's hard to ignore him when him and the horrible things he does are all over the news affect people's life's negatively.
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People do see the bad, because that vastly outweighs any good in him. A few years ago that wasn't the truth, but it sure seems true now.
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thats disgusting bye
i heard he got his bodyguards to beat up someone too
i dont care if hes donated stuff to charities - isn't it an act? i cant believe someone like him would donate to a charity. i won't forgive someone who thinks rape happens for a reason. hes scum.
his fans are okay, but i could never like someone for that. even for their music i would never support them.
There's a difference between "I like his music" and "I like him as a person", though. And you're forgetting that bad people can do good things too.
Plus, donating to a charity doesn't necessarily make you a good person. It's why you're donating that counts. Tons of people donate because they want to seem like saints in front of their friends, when in reality, all they care about is the good rep they gain from doing so. And while all people aren't like this - it's much more common than people think.
And let's not even get started on why the God thing isn't even remotely relevant to how good a person is..
Plus, donating to a charity doesn't necessarily make you a good person. It's why you're donating that counts. Tons of people donate because they want to seem like saints in front of their friends, when in reality, all they care about is the good rep they gain from doing so. And while all people aren't like this - it's much more common than people think.
And let's not even get started on why the God thing isn't even remotely relevant to how good a person is..
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nintendofan61
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I knew I'd get hate for giving my opinion. That's one of the reasons I hate this forum. Give your opinion, and you get attacked. I simply gave my opinion.
Bones, as for your comment regarding how you said God has nothing to do with how good of a person he is? It does. I don't know if you're a Christian or not, but I am, and I've know what Justin's done to prove he is too. Did you know that after every concert in 2010-2011, he always told the arenas packed with people that "Jesus loves you."?? He used his platform that he was blessed with to spread the word. I think that was an awesome thing to do.
Has anyone not seen what he has done?! He recently achieved the biggest celebrity to grant hundreds of Make-a-Wish foundation wishes. He's brought so many smiles to children's faces who are dying with cancer.
Has anyone heard of Avalanna? She was a 6 year old girl dying with a rare form of brain cancer. She past away last year, and Justin made sure to visit hear at least every 2-3 months. He made sure she smiled during her last few months on earth.
He gives tickets to his concerts to lots of fans that were not able to get any. EVERY concert. They even get front row tickets and meet and greet for FREE. He's not a money-hungry celebrity who looks for every penny to grab. He's given hundreds and hundreds, even thousands of tickets to people without any.
Millions of dollars donated to various charities.
That's what I call dedication.
His song called "Pray" has bought inspiration to millions around the world. Even using the money he made off of that to give to the less fortunate.
Does anyone know that during both of his world tours he gave $1 of every ticket (he sold millions of tickets) he made to Pencils of Promise? The foundation that builds schools for the less fortunate! In fact, so much money was raised by him, that 13 schools were built! Giving education to the less fortunate.
I could go on and on and on about the things he has done to give back.
Lets see YOU stand up on a stage with millions of people watching, and millions of people looking in your face, and say "Jesus Loves You" or, thanking God for all that He has done to put you in that position he's in.
I would like to see YOU do ALL these things before you give judgement. Then come back here and prove I'm wrong. Good luck!
Bones, as for your comment regarding how you said God has nothing to do with how good of a person he is? It does. I don't know if you're a Christian or not, but I am, and I've know what Justin's done to prove he is too. Did you know that after every concert in 2010-2011, he always told the arenas packed with people that "Jesus loves you."?? He used his platform that he was blessed with to spread the word. I think that was an awesome thing to do.
Has anyone not seen what he has done?! He recently achieved the biggest celebrity to grant hundreds of Make-a-Wish foundation wishes. He's brought so many smiles to children's faces who are dying with cancer.
Has anyone heard of Avalanna? She was a 6 year old girl dying with a rare form of brain cancer. She past away last year, and Justin made sure to visit hear at least every 2-3 months. He made sure she smiled during her last few months on earth.
He gives tickets to his concerts to lots of fans that were not able to get any. EVERY concert. They even get front row tickets and meet and greet for FREE. He's not a money-hungry celebrity who looks for every penny to grab. He's given hundreds and hundreds, even thousands of tickets to people without any.
Millions of dollars donated to various charities.
That's what I call dedication.
His song called "Pray" has bought inspiration to millions around the world. Even using the money he made off of that to give to the less fortunate.
Does anyone know that during both of his world tours he gave $1 of every ticket (he sold millions of tickets) he made to Pencils of Promise? The foundation that builds schools for the less fortunate! In fact, so much money was raised by him, that 13 schools were built! Giving education to the less fortunate.
I could go on and on and on about the things he has done to give back.
Lets see YOU stand up on a stage with millions of people watching, and millions of people looking in your face, and say "Jesus Loves You" or, thanking God for all that He has done to put you in that position he's in.
I would like to see YOU do ALL these things before you give judgement. Then come back here and prove I'm wrong. Good luck!
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SecondSider
Lord Kikuchiyo FTW
I'm actually going to be in a position soon at a church to say that in front of tons of people. You don't need to be famous or have great talent to say that. It makes me sad that you think only certain people can do that. And, although he may have done those things, it wasn't for the purpose you think it was. There's a lot more bad to him than most people can see, which makes some of them blind, like you, to who he really is. If I ever get famous for something (which I'm planning on doing because of my high IQ), then I would do all those good things without acting like such a jerk like he did. All in all, your proving of how little good things he's done to all the bad things he's done is pointless, and therefore your argument is invalid. And we're not attacking you because of your opinion, we're attacking him because of how he's acted, so sorry if anyone offended you, that's your own fault, not ours.
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omg you are so right!
SecondSider
Lord Kikuchiyo FTW
100% factual, and not opinion.
Officer Berri
Cousin Redd's Nightmare
I have not seen anyone attack you. I have seen people debate with you. There is a difference between debate and attack. I'm not sure why people haven't figured that out yet. You seem to be lashing out harder than other users here, and being much more defensive.
That's nice. I'm not Bones. But I'm replying to this anyway. I'm a Wiccan. Yet I think it's nice when people go out of their way to show they care about others, as long as they're not shoving it in people's faces. Just because he stands up and goes 'Jesus loves you' doesn't give him good person brownie points. I could go into the living room and tell my grandparents that Jesus loves them right now and it wouldn't mean I'm suddenly a wonderful person. If Bieber were a wonderful person he wouldn't spit on his fans. He wouldn't laugh at his fans. He wouldn't have his bodyguards hurt people. Just because he says 'jesus loves you' doesn't make him a good person. Unless of course being a good christian =/= being a good person. And saying "jesus loves you" is all that's need to be a good christian.
Again, that doesn't suddenly negate him being a huge tool and a horrible human being. We aren't working with positive and negative numbers here. Being an abusive sociopath is not evened out by donating to charity. That's not how being a decent human being works.
See above.
Is Bieber himself handing out these tickets? If not then it's his public image rep.
That's what I call "something every celebrity does all the time." See above as to why this doesn't automatically make him a good person.
And until he stops being a horrible human being it doesn't do anything to make him less of one.
Again, I'm a Wiccan. Let's put a spin on that. The God and Goddess love us unless you're being a huge tool. They didn't put me anywhere. I work to be where I am and I ask them for support. They did not magically grace me to where I was placed, just like God did not magically place Bieber in the laps of music producers. Biber's actions of hate and spite speak louder than any acts of 'faith' you claim he does ever could. Because if he actually believed in the words he said he would not be spitting on people, or laughing about young girls who idolize him cutting themselves to get him to stop smoking pot.
Judge not lest ye be judged, yes? Why not take your own advice. Chill out and have some cookies and tea.
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