Mafia Island Madness - Town Wins

[voltairenism]

if there is 4 mafia there is a good chance we hit mafia d3 or d4

 

[Damniel]

with 3 mafia we can move on by not chopping if only one slot is mod killed

 

[epona]

Honestly I feel fed up at the people I maf lean if they turn out to be town.

this is unfair and counterproductive

town is uninformed majority, people are always going to act in ways that rub you the wrong way bc it's hard to trust people. it's not necessarily anybody's fault

 

[Damniel]

@Ace Marvel can you explain your geo read? i am interested

 

[Ace Marvel]

Ok new idea, we could post PoE, people and the the people that get the most mentions, are the final 3 and we vote in those wagons.

 

[voltairenism]

Ok new idea, we could post PoE, people and the the people that get the most mentions, are the final 3 and we vote in those wagons.

dope. my top one sus: ACE

 

[Damniel]

Ok new idea, we could post PoE, people and the the people that get the most mentions, are the final 3 and we vote in those wagons.

this can work. outside of geo whats your ideas?

 

[voltairenism]

disclaimer: this is a joke on the idea being irrational

 

[dedenne]

Still catching up but I am ANNOYED and have a lot to say

watch this space. Btw there’s not two doctors one of you is lying

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Oh. Wait

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Ok I have to go buy a new TV but I think you’re all asleep anyway so it doesn’t matter

can I just say that what I complained about in kingmaker is happening again. People going rogue and claiming left right and centre makes it impossible for other people to solve them
I think we all need to be more conscious about working as a unit and playing to the communal wincon as opposed to doing whatever for our own game bc I’m frustrated

havent caught up yet but not for later this post sounds genuine to me

 

[Damniel]

we still have more than 24 hours to start working together. i believe we can do this.

here’s a list of my PoE from don’t want to chop to do, for today

Subbing out
hikari- i’ve already voiced my opinions here. i think wolf equity is very possible, but i’ll wait to solve the replacement before i make that firm decision

Not wanting to chop today
shawo- I’ve expressed that we’re not 100% sure whether or not there’s 2 docs. one of us dying the next phase will put the other is direct heat, which is why i think solving the other next day is more helpful with that flip. Shawo came into claim doctor without being in direct sus or even necessarily CCing me, so the only wolf motivation i can find is it just to avoid a chop for a while

epona- i think her EoD was pretty bad i’ll admit. but i’m starting to get a sense of frustration and confusion that’s genuine. i think epona is a strong player to work with if town, so i’m good with trying to see where working together goes

geoni- I think we have like opposite reads now. trying to get a TR on him is a bit tricky when he’s trying to sus out people im not really for chopping today. i think he does want to work with me but is struggling to find common ground, but i’d like to elaborate on his more middle of the ground reads

Middle ground
Ace- his death tunnel on me and geo is just so reminiscent of his past town plays. I will admit that he isn’t clear on most players (or even the geoni sus), and that could be a way of avoiding making reads, but i don’t think that’s the case rn? for those who watched his maf game, please help here. but so far i’m more just seeing confident town

alek- frankly, i do think that they’ve been playing in a way that hasn’t been helpful, if not possibly harmful. i find their reasoning to be pretty narrow minded, and they cling onto a lot of points that clog of pages, without ultimately having a strong argument due to misremembering/missreading (i.e. last night). I think their explosive and confident nature is more of what town alek does, while wolf alek would be blending in more. i do think that they’ve helped wolves a lot with the whole demanding doctors claim, but this is a case of Too Wolfy to be a Wolf. idk here anymore but leaning just town

Dinosaurz (liam)- from before, i got the sense they didn’t have any team support, so were mostly just lost town, and i still kinda think this. I do agree that he posts a lot of filler and doesn’t make that many hard stances, but to give him credit he has made reads and seems to be trying to do better. I can see where people are coming from with this, but i think the lack of any direction means they don’t have a team

Final Arcadia- Admittedly, I don’t have a strong reason to sus her yet. I thought her entry was pretty good and townread her early. but when thinking of all the people i think could be town, i reasoning for her just isn’t as strong. the low profile with not having any attention on her could be from a wolf PoV, but she’s also made good points here. I really want to talk about solving her since i think it could be great if we can comfortably town read her

Bottom of the barrel
Guava- as i said before, i don’t think her wagon really makes sense if she was mafia. the only possibility i can see is if dedenne is also mafia and saved her, so i will admit this could be a possibility. she doesnt seem to give too many reads, but she also doesn’t seem to hold anything back when she does make a statement. Conflicted here but i wouldn’t be surprised if just town

Volt- I don’t think there was much strong reason to TL them before besides the more fluid EoD voting behavior which wolves usually don’t do. I’d like to talk more about volt here, but when thinking about i think have town points on them, volt just doesn’t have much going on for them unfortunately

Dedenne- yeah i made the comment before that it felt like they were just following what i said. I realllyy need to hear from from her because i really don’t have much reason to not want to chop her besides it just feeling very easy and the sus piles up quickly like it did with cake



i don’t feel like all the wolves are in the bottom of the barrel * hikari, so i’m sure one of the TLs is a deep wolf. thinking more on that later

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one of us has to get killed eventually and that should make it easier to solve the other i suppose

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everyone please post a list of your reads, it’s important that we’re able to find each other and try to understand our head spaces

my PoE. can talk about this

 

[voltairenism]

what

 

[dedenne]

note for later*

 

[Damniel]

we have 24+ hours to work this out we can still build a good core

 

[Ace Marvel]

@Ace Marvel can you explain your geo read? i am interested

First the I refuse to believe, was based on odds and it does not exclude the possibility, so it was not a 180, was math and that stuff.

Geoni way of doing thing this game feel weird to me because of two things:
The way Geoni presents reads, of a game state that is long gone, so there is no point, since it does not apply to the present game.
The clear favoritism to you, no matter what you do, it's okay, and lets be honest if I pulled something like that, I will be super suss

The we have the Guava wagon, that was pushed in so a strange way.
And the fact that I truly believe glow's kill was orchestrated by a veteran player.

 

[Damniel]

First the I refuse to believe, was based on odds and it does not exclude the possibility, so it was not a 180, was math and that stuff.

Geoni way of doing thing this game feel weird to me because of two things:
The way Geoni presents reads, of a game state that is long gone, so there is no point, since it does not apply to the present game.
The clear favoritism to you, no matter what you do, it's okay, and lets be honest if I pulled something like that, I will be super suss

The we have the Guava wagon, that was pushed in so a strange way.
And the fact that I truly believe glow's kill was orchestrated by a veteran player.

i actually dont find these to be bad points. hm

 

[Ace Marvel]

FinalArcadia (Lolly) I
Voltairenism (Coco) I
Dedenne (Anhka) II
Ace Marvel (Colton)
guav@ (Monique) I
Alek (Stitches)
Damniel (Vesta)
Dinosaurz (Pietro)
Hikari (Poncho)
Geoni (Dobie) I
Epona (Whitney)
shawo (Raymond)

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i actually dont find these to be bad points. hm

the second point means I'm seeing a pocketing attempt if you are town.

 

[Damniel]

ehh pocketing i’m not going to look too deep into since that just leads to paranoia, but i myself just struggled to find where Geo’s headspace is at times and find his reads vague outside of Dedenne and Guava

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and shawo. those three he makes clear are his susses

 

[Ace Marvel]

If I'm right about Geoni is a huge blow to mafia, because I can totally make Geoni as the leader.

 

[Damniel]

the glow kill though i think could’ve happened for a lot of reasons so i wont make this a point against geoni to be fair

 

[voltairenism]

I'm not sure, I was going to back to EoD because I feel how there was 2 votes on lile 5 people was really weird. I didn't like how Ace was lying to save cake, felt like he knew she was going to flip town and buddy up but I'm not sure. His tone feels really like usual town though but I am basically reconsidering
epona would be second sus but it's a mixed bag honestly.
dedenne feel soooo weird this game but it's such an easy wagon
and thats basically it honestly

still this basically