Mafia Improbable Role Mafia 3 - Endgame

[Dolby]

Ok so

Townlock (at least not maf for sure): Waffles
Townleans: Tina, Kat
Sus: Glow, ILY

I posted this earlier, with everyone else being implied null. I do have opinions on everyone else, I'm just more confident in those five specifically. If I had to order these

Townish: Punchy/Antonio(for the vote), Vanessa
Nullish: Locket, Dad, Byngo
Susish: Heyden (while this is a weird placement, it's pretty much done only to reflect that Heyden pretty much claimed third-party that's going to be out of our hair at some point. I don't consider Heyden to be likely mafia at this point)

I have to look into Farobi's thoughts on the "post-restriction scum" argument. But there is one scum AT MOST, probably none, in Tina, waffles(confirmed), and Vanessa, and I'm considering elevating Vanessa to a full townlean for her vote.

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Good lordt I'm tired but also good job to waffles for that if you aren't cop because it was an on point read. Also waffles and I guess Kat look better to me in retrospect. Dolby is also posting like he usually posts as town despite it being a more subdued game so I am keeping my eye on him but he looks good atm.

Tina and Vanessa also seem like townleans based on the voting because I don't see mafia bussing each other with there probably only being three on their team and it bringing their KP down to one so they look good atm.

Punchy could be a reverse psychology thing ala Kermit voting Kayla last game but it didn't work then and I don't see people using that so soon now.

It's kind of a shallow read to make but I kind of suspect Kayla could be mafia because she seems already defeated about the game, wanting to get replaced, and came into this thinking she's have a good time and her last game as mafia stressed her out so I can see her wanting to be replaced in a situation like this. Also something about Byngo still doesn't sit right with me. I'll refrain from leaning one way or another when it comes to glow because apparently her encryption will 'clear' her and because I suck at reading glow apparently.

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Also damn I was figuring Kayla would get replaced before Punchy did.

Besides Glow, this is pretty much my exact thoughts right now

 

[Antonio]

So, I just join in late and I'm not 100% sure how to start off. Any ideas?

 

[glow]

My guess is that
Waffles is town or Jester
but kek I called your bull****
your trolling has a predecessor

If I recall, glow
didnt you say you'd reveal the encryption key?
doing that would be fantastic
so reveal it to thread, I plea

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[Dolby]

Hey, ily, you've been scarce to provide thoughts. How about some in light of the lynch (you know, besides the obvious Waffles is confirmed)?

 

[Antonio]

I'm going to sleep, enjoy my speedtest.

Testing download speed........................................
Download: 2.61 Mbit/s
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[glow]

Hey, ily, you've been scarce to provide thoughts. How about some in light of the lynch (you know, besides the obvious Waffles is confirmed)?

bus ur teammates d1 n e w m e t a

 

[iLoveYou]

For some reason this game is a lor harder to follow than Tina's game, for me personally. It's definitely not about feeling defeated or stressed. ^^ I'm genuinely lost and I probably do need more experience before joining other games from here on out.

What I'm not understanding from the lynch ( and I'm not even there yet, I'm still bouncing back and forth between both Improbable games ) is why are we clearing the people who voted Farobi ? Wasn't Farobi a lost cause from the beginning so people would have no choice but to vote him anyways ? Wouldn't it make more sense for a mafia team to bus him at that point to earn Town cred ? I'm really not seeing it the same way here and I don't understand what I'm missing out on to be able to connect those dots ? How come they are getting cleared for voting someone who was told they received a red alignment from a day cop ?

Also, I don't think Antonio is doing one-liners ? Unless those role restrictions are specifically made for the day phase ?

And I still don't get why Heyden wasn't brought up more from others because I found he played the most suspiciously during Day One due to what I had posted. He seemed the most okay to just lynch anyone and jumped on what other people brought up in the thread.

Also the only thing that lines up with the whole colouring text restriction ( since I questioned it earlier ) is that it existed before. So I'm guessing since no one else has the role she has to be telling the truth ? I just don't get why it's automatically seen as Town though ? To me her role seemed the fakest like I said. But also if we're judging based on counterclaims, wouldn't that mean chances are Punchy is telling the truth ( even if Antonio is following the one-liner rules ) too since no one else said they had that role ? Why is he still the most likely to be faking out of everyone ? Just because he was the last to post ?

 

[Chris]

... but I kind of suspect Kayla could be mafia because she seems already defeated about the game, wanting to get replaced, and came into this thinking she's have a good time and her last game as mafia stressed her out so I can see her wanting to be replaced in a situation like this.

Agreed with you on Kayla. Her approach is off, her tone reminds me of last game, and she made a post earlier that felt like cherry-picking. Where she went back and brought up Unravel's quote that used the word "frame" and tried to apply it to an irrelevant context. She did this a lot in Call the Ships as well.

I'm concerned about Punchy/Antonio. Seems like a quick ditch approach when not being able to sign in on N1 is really not a big deal. That comes across to me as, "I actually just don't want to play."

 

[Chris]

Just some updated thoughts:

• Dolby is/was not partnered with Farobi
• Farobi was pushing the post-restrictive people (Byngo/Punchy/Locket/Kat)
• He specifically pushed Punchy and cleared Kat
• I don't believe he would have said that about Kat if they were paired
• Antonio's posts show that Punchy's restriction wasn't real
• I believe Farobi was potentially bussing Punchy

 

[cornimer]

The fact that Farobi randomly sussed Byngo, proceeded to say Punchy was more sus and then vote for Waffles makes me low-key think Byngo could be scum and he was trying to distance himself without committing to it

 

[Antonio]

For some reason this game is a lor harder to follow than Tina's game, for me personally. It's definitely not about feeling defeated or stressed. ^^ I'm genuinely lost and I probably do need more experience before joining other games from here on out.

What I'm not understanding from the lynch ( and I'm not even there yet, I'm still bouncing back and forth between both Improbable games ) is why are we clearing the people who voted Farobi ? Wasn't Farobi a lost cause from the beginning so people would have no choice but to vote him anyways ? Wouldn't it make more sense for a mafia team to bus him at that point to earn Town cred ? I'm really not seeing it the same way here and I don't understand what I'm missing out on to be able to connect those dots ? How come they are getting cleared for voting someone who was told they received a red alignment from a day cop ?

Also, I don't think Antonio is doing one-liners ? Unless those role restrictions are specifically made for the day phase ?

And I still don't get why Heyden wasn't brought up more from others because I found he played the most suspiciously during Day One due to what I had posted. He seemed the most okay to just lynch anyone and jumped on what other people brought up in the thread.

Also the only thing that lines up with the whole colouring text restriction ( since I questioned it earlier ) is that it existed before. So I'm guessing since no one else has the role she has to be telling the truth ? I just don't get why it's automatically seen as Town though ? To me her role seemed the fakest like I said. But also if we're judging based on counterclaims, wouldn't that mean chances are Punchy is telling the truth ( even if Antonio is following the one-liner rules ) too since no one else said they had that role ? Why is he still the most likely to be faking out of everyone ? Just because he was the last to post ?

I can confirm that Punchy was using reverse psychology or I believe he was. There's literally nothing in my DM stating anything about one liners just something about protecting.

 

[Geoni]

I can confirm that Punchy was using reverse psychology or I believe he was. There's literally nothing in my DM stating anything about one liners just something about protecting.

Wait how is it reverse psychology though? Not everyone has the post restriction.

 

[Chris]

So he lied.

Pretending to have a post restriction has absolutely zero benefit from a town perspective. It would allow mafia to blend in though if they realised all the post restrictive roles were town. Which is why I believe Farobi attempted to bus him.

 

[Geoni]

I posted this earlier, with everyone else being implied null. I do have opinions on everyone else, I'm just more confident in those five specifically. If I had to order these

Townish: Punchy/Antonio(for the vote), Vanessa
Nullish: Locket, Dad, Byngo
Susish: Heyden (while this is a weird placement, it's pretty much done only to reflect that Heyden pretty much claimed third-party that's going to be out of our hair at some point. I don't consider Heyden to be likely mafia at this point)

I have to look into Farobi's thoughts on the "post-restriction scum" argument. But there is one scum AT MOST, probably none, in Tina, waffles(confirmed), and Vanessa, and I'm considering elevating Vanessa to a full townlean for her vote.

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Besides Glow, this is pretty much my exact thoughts right now

What is your read on Tina rn? Particularly her response to me about Kayla being too quiet and expanding on some random meta **** I threw Kayla's way?

 

[Heyden]

true, if Punchy was town I feel like he wouldn’t bring unnecessary attention to himself. Idk about forbi bussing him though, I’d take it lightly

 

[Geoni]

true, if Punchy was town I feel like he wouldn’t bring unnecessary attention to himself. Idk about forbi bussing him though, I’d take it lightly

Call Ships to Port bruh. Did we play the same game?

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But I can see your point if you think he wouldn't bring attention to himself as town because of that game and what happened.

 

[cornimer]

I can confirm that Punchy was using reverse psychology or I believe he was. There's literally nothing in my DM stating anything about one liners just something about protecting.

Oh
Well either he was trying to blend in with the other post restriction people and he's scum, or he had some other grand scheme (though I can't think about what that would be right now)
I mean last game he lied about his wincon to look more town even though he was town so maybe he did something like that again??

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i will give u a hint

its someone's user title

Omk is it Tad

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And for the record I think Kat and Dolby are definitely town. As for Waffles, I would honestly guess that what she did was a crazy teammate bus if not for the fact that they're like really good friends, so it makes sense she would randomly decide to troll him. So I guess for now I agree that she is not mafia, but she could be third party for sure.

 

[Chris]

I mean last game he lied about his wincon to look more town even though he was town so maybe he did something like that again??

99% certain that was a genuine mistake (assuming he had a win con in his PM) rather than a plan from the messages he sent me over Discord that day. But if he is town then he'd have no way of knowing the alignment of the other restrictive roles. I took the "one liner" thing as an excuse not to have to participate too heavily. I kind of got the same impression from Byngo's claim though.

 

[cornimer]

99% certain that was a genuine mistake (assuming he had a win con in his PM) rather than a plan from the messages he sent me over Discord that day. But if he is town then he'd have no way of knowing the alignment of the other restrictive roles. I took the "one liner" thing as an excuse not to have to participate too heavily. I kind of got the same impression from Byngo's claim though.

Hmm. He/Antonio definitely looks pretty sus now then

 

[Antonio]

I mean, the no liner thing did bring unneeded attention to punchy.

Anyways, in the last 2 games (was he town in the last one?) everyone thought he was scum but turned out town? I looked through all of punchy's messages in this game and he literally had no idea what he was doing, no offense. His actions did not correspond with his objective. I was personally confused with his gameplay, cause it made zero. That being said, I ask everyone to please don't compare my gameplay with punchy's gameplay.