[Important!] Dreamtown Stealing!!!

The software looks really useful, but these two features are complete abuses of it :mad: Maybe it could be taken to the creator directly to see if they would remove these? (NeoKamek @ gbatemp)
 
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That is super neat. This is all done with powersaves?

it is done with much more powerful tools

Oh, Someone on my fc book posted the program yesterday
It allows you to edit your town basically if you have a old version of the DS
You can move villager houses/ unlimited bushed move rocks and plaze/retail, change tpc picture. ETC
I think you might be able to change your villagers but idk.

old version meaning before 9.5.0-23
with one program, yeah you can change ur villagers. u could have a whole town of marshals if you wanted

How does it work??

depends on the program. theres two that i know of

Yeah, I'm aware of the hacking tools.(Can't seem to get it to work on my 3DS though even though it's the right version, but I'll figure it out. I can do hex.)

the other one isnt TOO hard to figure out (the one with QRs)

This was already blocked as soon as the system update for 9.5.0-23 came out. They can't do any patches or anything for this hack as it was for an older system version.

Unless they have a time machine, there's nothing they can really do to prevent this besides shut down wifi. The updates aren't exactly forced, so unless everyone who has access to this accidentally updates somehow this is here to stay.

people are saying that theyre working on an update for it so -23 people can use it.

ok, but we're all forgetting something important here

that we can finally see what's in the closed off room of アィカ's house

then it was nothing all along

=

only the scummiest of ac players would copy someones dream town, since people usually use the tools to change the river shape/move town buildings, quickly place pwps, put weeds/clovers/bamboo in water and regular trees/bushes/pwps on the beach, remove rocks, change villager placement/change villagers altogether, and move stuff that you normally wouldnt be able to, like the bulletin board merely to make their town look nicer.
 
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It's a real shame that a select number of people in the gaming community as a whole usually need to rely on PS or any cheating device nowadays to actually play the game on how they want to play it. ACNL is a game in which you pretty much do whatever you want when you want, so the use of actually "cheating" for a town duplicate or ID picture really isn't formidable in my eyes. It's not like you need to complete an objective to get to the next level or to actually acquire a certain item to use for a boss or even need a certain amount of money by a certain day. ACNL just allows you to play leisurely at your own pace, without the worries of what most games have which put the pressure on people to use the devices in the first place, but alas, "cheating" or "hacking" will always be apart of the gaming world, no matter what you do or say. This reality is sad, but true. Do I deny myself of using cheats? No, of course not, because then I would be lying to myself. I am sure a good 80% or more of the gaming community use cheats in one way or another. I have used cheats myself but never to the extent in which it could possibly mentally affect people such as how this town or ID hack is. Personally, when it comes to actually copying a town simply because of the lack of creativity or ambition to create on their part, it is quite sad. Considering the town itself is indeed the main point of AC, just to create it your way should be the fun of it. I just feel a bit sorry for those who get their towns copied since they did indeed put hours upon hours of work into it and never really wanted that to happen, however, at the same time, that is technically what happens when you put something out there for everyone to see. You run the risk of getting copied.

I am personally glad I had never uploaded my Dream Address for ACNL. I never really wanted to in the first place simply because of the copying factor that people could use for their towns. Despite it actually using PS or not, people will and can find a way to copy without you knowing. My sister literally had a friend who reset her game just to copy her town. She literally found the layout, bought most of the plants and trees that were needed and pretty much went about it as if she had a photographic memory. Did my sister have a Dream Address for her town so that person could copy it? No. Did that person have to use a "cheating device" to copy my sister's town? No, of course not. While "cheating" does let you replicate a town much quicker, the process of actually doing so without it can still result in the same thing or close to it. Will it look exactly like your town? Possibly not, but either way, I don't intend for somebody to have a good 80% of their town to look like mine, even if it was "influencing" them.

Now, not everyone you meet will be like this mind you. A lot of people actually couldn't care less of what your town looks like, let alone have the audacity to copy it. There is however, a minority at most that may get jealous and want to possibly have what you have, but that goes without saying. No matter what, there will always be "hacking" risk factors involved with games, especially when it comes to online priorities. As far as ID pics go, this really isn't new. Yeah sure, now it can be seen in a much bigger image if you want to say, but people have been drawing risqu? images since the creation of clothing designs and flag designs had become available. Let's be real here, there really isn't much a difference with people having a crude ID photo compared to someone coming to TT island wearing something crude. If the ID bothers you, or if the person bothers you in particular, you do have the option of blocking who you want on the island. This is a choice on the gamers part. Yes, people usually D/C but alas nothing is perfect.

Long rant, nothing short of just my opinion. If you read it, awesome, if not, awesome. Just wanted to state how I felt. 'Tis all.
 
Tbh I don't mind the other hacking tools such as moving the buildings, editing your map, etc. since it only affects you and your game and the only one that can be badly affected is the player themselves.
But taking someone's dream town and copying it pixel by pixel is a scummy thing to do and worse if that person tries to pass it off as their own. I don't care if "copying is the greatest form of flattery". If I see someone steal my town which I worked hard on for MONTHS while they just took it without even having to plant a single flower and take the credit, I will drive them into the ground.
The hacking at first was a really cool thing. Seeing players being able to be more creative with their town layouts and designs now that they can go past certain boundaries of the game but it's a dang shame that some people have decided to twist this into something so negative.
 
Generally, discussion of these sorts of things are not allowed here. I'll allow the thread to stay open for now for the sake of awareness of what the thread originally was about and let the current debate continue, but I've removed the explicit references in some posts to specific hacking tools and the sort. Please do not post about them here.

I was hoping it wouldn't come to people trying to share their info on how to do it, and more agreeing that this bad thing's a bad thing. Apologies for giving you a hard time here ^^; I just thought people deserved to know, honestly.

I just wanted to share the information because of the fact I really love my game and town and I'd go as far as to considering it my little safe haven from the real world, I'd be very offended if I found out someone copied my hours of hard work and dedication. I was hoping some people here felt the same or could relate but I was a little shocked that some people were actually calling it cool and stuff, but different mindsets and all.
 
With the pictures on TPC things, that's messed up. Not because I think they'll shut down the wifi (I doubt it) but because there are kids playing this game and from the things people have posted about Tortimer's Island before, there are enough people being creepy to them. Plus, I think it would make it less fun since I like how the TPC pictures are the characters, it makes it feel more like a real ID.

I don't have a dream town so I'm not affected by the dream town thing, but I don't care if people are doing it just to get items they don't have (I don't condone hacking but it's their own game). Stealing people's towns square for square sounds pretty pointless and unoriginal, and says more about the person doing the stealing, in my opinion.

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Also, I agree that people should play their own games in whatever way they want, but not when it affects others. I think a lot of people forget that there are plenty of kids and also older people who use ACNL to cope with their issues (according to a bunch of posts I've read here before) playing the game, and it's immature at best to make them feel uncomfortable and go to all that effort in a game about talking animals.
 
Just gonna give my two cents here. I've seen some people use the hacking stuff to edit their town a bit and I'm fine with you playing the game however you want. I'm not going to judge you if you hack or not, I don't care. But if I see someone steal my town after I've put so many hours into it, I will not be happy, nor flattered. I will be pissed. Most of us (all of us on this forum I believe) work really hard to make our towns special and beautiful and all and if somebody comes and just takes it and makes it their own, then I have a problem with that. It's just really inconsiderate and rude and if people can't see what's wrong with doing that then I'm just baffled.
 
I read the rant you made, Facade. And I do agree that in a lot of cases the hacking and cheating stuff is quite bothersome. Honestly when I do it I /only/ use it for things that would've taken me a long time to do and as a part time college student who wants to use her free time doing more than just plot resetting or pwp tricks, it was very convenient to find this and utilize it.

I don't try to go overboard though because last time I did a lot of powersave stuff the game eventually felt very.... insignificant, I had to reset my town because it just annoyed me so much that I had /too much/ and that my town felt like so little to me because I ruined it. So I try to just use it where it would've been a PAIN to do it legit, but where I can still find that doing other things like going to the islands, collect fish/bugs/fossils, are still enjoyable and great. ^_^

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Just gonna give my two cents here. I've seen some people use the hacking stuff to edit their town a bit and I'm fine with you playing the game however you want. I'm not going to judge you if you hack or not, I don't care. But if I see someone steal my town after I've put so many hours into it, I will not be happy, nor flattered. I will be pissed. Most of us (all of us on this forum I believe) work really hard to make our towns special and beautiful and all and if somebody comes and just takes it and makes it their own, then I have a problem with that. It's just really inconsiderate and rude and if people can't see what's wrong with doing that then I'm just baffled.

I was honestly hating this website a good bit when I saw responses trying to justify their doing of this stuff or complement it. I'm glad I'm starting to see more people who feel what I feel. Not because I'm trying to favor only one opinion but I just don't think some of these people understand the screwedupness (I'm taking that word to the dictionary people!) of the situation here.
 
Holy TL;DR , I honestly don't care if someone copies my ****ty town. I mean I guess if you wanted to start a second town but wanted to skip over the boring beginning parts you could have like a template town.
 
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I read the rant you made, Facade. And I do agree that in a lot of cases the hacking and cheating stuff is quite bothersome. Honestly when I do it I /only/ use it for things that would've taken me a long time to do and as a part time college student who wants to use her free time doing more than just plot resetting or pwp tricks, it was very convenient to find this and utilize it.

I don't try to go overboard though because last time I did a lot of powersave stuff the game eventually felt very.... insignificant, I had to reset my town because it just annoyed me so much that I had /too much/ and that my town felt like so little to me because I ruined it. So I try to just use it where it would've been a PAIN to do it legit, but where I can still find that doing other things like going to the islands, collect fish/bugs/fossils, are still enjoyable and great. ^_^

I appreciate you reading my terribly long rant haha :) I feel the same way and understand your pain. People do tend to lead busy lives a lot of the time, whether it be school, work or just the stresses of life which make it hard to even play the game (I actually just started playing my ACNl again after 4 months so yeah haha I get ya) I am the same way with my PS (well "was" until it almost threatened my game's life haha so I stopped. Thank goodness for back up save on the computer) Indeed, it is very nice of you to do warnings as people can either take them or leave them. At least you are spreading it to give those who have no understanding or knowledge about it a bit of a heads up. Ignore those who bash your good deed. While yes, it could give other's the idea of using that hack for their own desire (If they can even remotely do it) but the other end of the stick is the main purpose of it, which was to inform others. Truthfully, I didn't find out about it until yesterday from a girl I met on TT island and then you just helped by further investigating your time to promptly give a more detailed thesis on it, so thank you :)
 
I was honestly hating this website a good bit when I saw responses trying to justify their doing of this stuff or complement it. I'm glad I'm starting to see more people who feel what I feel. Not because I'm trying to favor only one opinion but I just don't think some of these people understand the screwedupness (I'm taking that word to the dictionary people!) of the situation here.

Yeah some of the responses on here pissed me off quite a bit which is why I decided to answer. I mean, perhaps we exaggerate but for me it IS theft. I don't care about the definition or anything. It just is. I'm a graphic designer in real life and I've had people steal some of the things I've made and all and stealing someone's town is similar for me. Less severe because I don't lose money when they do that but it's the same principle. You take somebody's hard work for yourself. It's just unbelievable that some people would justify this and say it's okay and all. It's not. I saw it happen to somebody and she was really upset. Have some decency, people.
 
OMG, I read the replies to this thread and I haven't been this angry at people in a very long time. Stealing somebody's town and then bragging about it is not okay. They spent hours and even years making their town look the way it does and then somebody just comes and takes it? And feels like a good person about it? Honestly, I'm upset as well as angry about most of the replies saying it's "neat" or "not a big deal". I don't wanna get mixed up in this any more than this reply so I'm going to leave it at that. ACNL is supposed to be a fun and relaxing game. Seriously, people.
 
I don't think it's worth getting pissed off over the replies to this thread. A lot of people here tend to have this response to random threads, probably to make themselves sound like they're so cool and detached that they don't care. :rolleyes:

Like I said in my last post, that issue doesn't affect me since I don't have a dream town. I can see why people would be annoyed about having their towns copied square for square, since they've put so much time and effort into them. It may be only a game but it can take up a fair amount of time to put together a town you like.
 
I don't think it's worth getting pissed off over the replies to this thread. A lot of people here tend to have this response to random threads, probably to make themselves sound like they're so cool and detached that they don't care. :rolleyes:

Like I said in my last post, that issue doesn't affect me since I don't have a dream town. I can see why people would be annoyed about having their towns copied square for square, since they've put so much time and effort into them. It may be only a game but it can take up a fair amount of time to put together a town you like.

Yeah, recently I resetted my town back over a month ago, and I have yet to open up the dreamsuite and get a dream code so luckily I'm out of the line of fire. (I feel like I'd be a definite target now that I brought awareness to this website and someone decided to turn to the dark side here |D) but if someone were to take my old town I wouldn't be a happy camper. :P
 
I wonder why they would steal dream towns when they can literally make a perfect town with perfect house placements, less rocks, better villagers, and more PWPs.
 
I wonder why they would steal dream towns when they can literally make a perfect town with perfect house placements, less rocks, better villagers, and more PWPs.

I know, right? It's like... how are you gonna take a good thing that's probably disabled you from doing what you've wanted to before and turn it into this bad thing thats now giving this stuff a bad name??
(also, look yall I got a signature now I feel kinda relevant now YEYE)
 
It's funny that the Tumblr account whining about this does a lot of hacking themselves.
 
people need to calm the heckled down. In the end this is a relaxing game. It's the people in community's that make this a drama filled hellhole. I mean seriously? If you care that much about your town than why don't you just not post it everywhere? "OMG they totally stole my town that I worked for" well sorry but have you got any evidence of them passing is as their own? Do they even post it everywhere? I mean if they keep the darn thing to themselves than just leave it.

It isn't theft. Theft is taking something. Did they take your town away from you? No, so stop whining about it. I promise you that you've taken other towns and done the same thing in a different location at least once. Even if it is a carbon copy, does it make your town a little less special? It shouldn't, bexuse you still put the work in and you don't have a stupid copy of it.
 
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It's funny that the Tumblr account whining about this does a lot of hacking themselves.

I don't steal people's layouts. I don't do anything to screw other people over. I have way too much love for this game to ever consider that. Do not lump me with people who do these acts. All I do is like, 2-3 things that would've made me bust my non-existant balls to do otherwise.
 
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