Genetic Engineering

[EpicGamer12]

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Well, he was killed by jews, so obviously not very well.

Or, if you believe in the whole zombie thing, one could argue that he was "engineered" by god.

However, this has nothing to do with the topic. The leap from genetic engineering to Jesus is absurd.

Everybody physically dies eventually.
Anyways, I just do not believe you should change yourself in any way. I do fine in life, already. I love my looks, height, everything about me. Why shouldn't other people? I don't need to change anything about me to succeed or do better in life.

I think you missed my point.

And that's fine, you can love who you are. Nothing wrong with that (And we can't do much to change anything now, other than plastic surgery, but that's only for looks). But why not give the next generation something more to love? It's not hurting anyone. What if a child is born without the use of their limbs? Why should they just love the way they are if their parents had the chance to fix it?

My iPod is being slow, sorry.

People born without "whatever" is a part of diversity, and a great part of the world. And seriously, wheelchair and other various companies would go out of buisness. The world would be turned around in although some good ways, plenty of bad ways too.

I fail at debating by the way.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

Well, he was killed by jews, so obviously not very well.

Or, if you believe in the whole zombie thing, one could argue that he was "engineered" by god.

However, this has nothing to do with the topic. The leap from genetic engineering to Jesus is absurd.

Everybody physically dies eventually.
Anyways, I just do not believe you should change yourself in any way. I do fine in life, already. I love my looks, height, everything about me. Why shouldn't other people? I don't need to change anything about me to succeed or do better in life.

I think you missed my point.

And that's fine, you can love who you are. Nothing wrong with that (And we can't do much to change anything now, other than plastic surgery, but that's only for looks). But why not give the next generation something more to love? It's not hurting anyone. What if a child is born without the use of their limbs? Why should they just love the way they are if their parents had the chance to fix it?

My iPod is being slow, sorry.

People born without "whatever" is a part of diversity, and a great part of the world. And seriously, wheelchair and other various companies would go out of buisness. The world would be turned around in although some good ways, plenty of bad ways too.

I fail at debating by the way.

 

[Fender]

If this debate is about genetic modification on humans, they're already working on that. You'll be able to choose how your baby looks like. Eye colour, etc.
The problem with it though is, if you modify something by adding a splice of a gene from something else it may be immune to one disease, but as soon as you find a new disease you're not immune to there's trouble. Because you're looking at a population which is just DNA copies over and over, so everyone is at danger. That is exactly what's happening to bananas. In some ways it's similar to asexual reproduction.

I agree with the process to some extent. But really in the end, it's defeating the purpose of sexual reproduction which is a whole other problem.
Sorry this is so long. ;-;

The appearance stuff I don't care about, it has no real relevance. People want their child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Fine with me.

We wouldn't really be engineering to prevent diseases, I think it would be more to prevent genetic disorders. The problem with having a small DNA pool would be that some recessive genes may become active in other generations. If all individuals were given some for of engineering, these problems could be avoided simply by fixing the gene in question.

 

[Fender]

If this debate is about genetic modification on humans, they're already working on that. You'll be able to choose how your baby looks like. Eye colour, etc.
The problem with it though is, if you modify something by adding a splice of a gene from something else it may be immune to one disease, but as soon as you find a new disease you're not immune to there's trouble. Because you're looking at a population which is just DNA copies over and over, so everyone is at danger. That is exactly what's happening to bananas. In some ways it's similar to asexual reproduction.

I agree with the process to some extent. But really in the end, it's defeating the purpose of sexual reproduction which is a whole other problem.
Sorry this is so long. ;-;

The appearance stuff I don't care about, it has no real relevance. People want their child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Fine with me.

We wouldn't really be engineering to prevent diseases, I think it would be more to prevent genetic disorders. The problem with having a small DNA pool would be that some recessive genes may become active in other generations. If all individuals were given some for of engineering, these problems could be avoided simply by fixing the gene in question.

 

[ryty1231]

Personally, I believe genetic engineering is paving the path to the future of agriculture and medicine.

While it does have it's negative side effects like changing the environment for the worse, it allows us to yield higher amounts of crops, which is needed for the constantly rising human population, and help cure serious illnesses

As long as we use extreme caution when dealing with genetic engineering, it can be very beneficial.

 

[ryty1231]

Personally, I believe genetic engineering is paving the path to the future of agriculture and medicine.

While it does have it's negative side effects like changing the environment for the worse, it allows us to yield higher amounts of crops, which is needed for the constantly rising human population, and help cure serious illnesses

As long as we use extreme caution when dealing with genetic engineering, it can be very beneficial.

 

[Fender]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

Everybody physically dies eventually.
Anyways, I just do not believe you should change yourself in any way. I do fine in life, already. I love my looks, height, everything about me. Why shouldn't other people? I don't need to change anything about me to succeed or do better in life.

I think you missed my point.

And that's fine, you can love who you are. Nothing wrong with that (And we can't do much to change anything now, other than plastic surgery, but that's only for looks). But why not give the next generation something more to love? It's not hurting anyone. What if a child is born without the use of their limbs? Why should they just love the way they are if their parents had the chance to fix it?

My iPod is being slow, sorry.

People born without "whatever" is a part of diversity, and a great part of the world. And seriously, wheelchair and other various companies would go out of buisness. The world would be turned around in although some good ways, plenty of bad ways too.

I fail at debating by the way.

People being born is disabilities is a great part of the world? Are you serious? Wheelchair companies would go out of business? Are you kidding me? That's what you're worried about? Not the people without full use of their bodies?

 

[Fender]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

Everybody physically dies eventually.
Anyways, I just do not believe you should change yourself in any way. I do fine in life, already. I love my looks, height, everything about me. Why shouldn't other people? I don't need to change anything about me to succeed or do better in life.

I think you missed my point.

And that's fine, you can love who you are. Nothing wrong with that (And we can't do much to change anything now, other than plastic surgery, but that's only for looks). But why not give the next generation something more to love? It's not hurting anyone. What if a child is born without the use of their limbs? Why should they just love the way they are if their parents had the chance to fix it?

My iPod is being slow, sorry.

People born without "whatever" is a part of diversity, and a great part of the world. And seriously, wheelchair and other various companies would go out of buisness. The world would be turned around in although some good ways, plenty of bad ways too.

I fail at debating by the way.

People being born is disabilities is a great part of the world? Are you serious? Wheelchair companies would go out of business? Are you kidding me? That's what you're worried about? Not the people without full use of their bodies?

 

[Princess]

If this debate is about genetic modification on humans, they're already working on that. You'll be able to choose how your baby looks like. Eye colour, etc.
The problem with it though is, if you modify something by adding a splice of a gene from something else it may be immune to one disease, but as soon as you find a new disease you're not immune to there's trouble. Because you're looking at a population which is just DNA copies over and over, so everyone is at danger. That is exactly what's happening to bananas. In some ways it's similar to asexual reproduction.

I agree with the process to some extent. But really in the end, it's defeating the purpose of sexual reproduction which is a whole other problem.
Sorry this is so long. ;-;

The appearance stuff I don't care about, it has no real relevance. People want their child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Fine with me.

We wouldn't really be engineering to prevent diseases, I think it would be more to prevent genetic disorders. The problem with having a small DNA pool would be that some recessive genes may become active in other generations. If all individuals were given some for of engineering, these problems could be avoided simply by fixing the gene in question.

It was simply an example.

Agreed. But, again if an uncureable (at the time) disease/disorder pops up, that the genes are NOT immune to we're pretty much *censored.3.0*ed. Considering the time it takes to find a cure. We can't just randomly add another gene to our code. The number of genes is so magnificent, it will be very difficult to find the one in the amount of time the disease/disorder spreads. Which would be pretty fast since we'll just be copies and copies.

 

[Princess]

If this debate is about genetic modification on humans, they're already working on that. You'll be able to choose how your baby looks like. Eye colour, etc.
The problem with it though is, if you modify something by adding a splice of a gene from something else it may be immune to one disease, but as soon as you find a new disease you're not immune to there's trouble. Because you're looking at a population which is just DNA copies over and over, so everyone is at danger. That is exactly what's happening to bananas. In some ways it's similar to asexual reproduction.

I agree with the process to some extent. But really in the end, it's defeating the purpose of sexual reproduction which is a whole other problem.
Sorry this is so long. ;-;

The appearance stuff I don't care about, it has no real relevance. People want their child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Fine with me.

We wouldn't really be engineering to prevent diseases, I think it would be more to prevent genetic disorders. The problem with having a small DNA pool would be that some recessive genes may become active in other generations. If all individuals were given some for of engineering, these problems could be avoided simply by fixing the gene in question.

It was simply an example.

Agreed. But, again if an uncureable (at the time) disease/disorder pops up, that the genes are NOT immune to we're pretty much *censored.3.0*ed. Considering the time it takes to find a cure. We can't just randomly add another gene to our code. The number of genes is so magnificent, it will be very difficult to find the one in the amount of time the disease/disorder spreads. Which would be pretty fast since we'll just be copies and copies.

 

[Fender]

If this debate is about genetic modification on humans, they're already working on that. You'll be able to choose how your baby looks like. Eye colour, etc.
The problem with it though is, if you modify something by adding a splice of a gene from something else it may be immune to one disease, but as soon as you find a new disease you're not immune to there's trouble. Because you're looking at a population which is just DNA copies over and over, so everyone is at danger. That is exactly what's happening to bananas. In some ways it's similar to asexual reproduction.

I agree with the process to some extent. But really in the end, it's defeating the purpose of sexual reproduction which is a whole other problem.
Sorry this is so long. ;-;

The appearance stuff I don't care about, it has no real relevance. People want their child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Fine with me.

We wouldn't really be engineering to prevent diseases, I think it would be more to prevent genetic disorders. The problem with having a small DNA pool would be that some recessive genes may become active in other generations. If all individuals were given some for of engineering, these problems could be avoided simply by fixing the gene in question.

It was simply an example.

Agreed. But, again if an uncureable (at the time) disease/disorder pops up, that the genes are NOT immune to we're pretty much *censored.3.0*ed. Considering the time it takes to find a cure. We can't just randomly add another gene to our code. The number of genes is so magnificent, it will be very difficult to find the one in the amount of time the disease/disorder spreads. Which would be pretty fast since we'll just be copies and copies.

I don't really see what your point is, as that could happen at any time. Just because we don't modify genes doesn't mean some disease won't come out of nowhere and wipe out humanity. It could happen either way.

 

[Fender]

If this debate is about genetic modification on humans, they're already working on that. You'll be able to choose how your baby looks like. Eye colour, etc.
The problem with it though is, if you modify something by adding a splice of a gene from something else it may be immune to one disease, but as soon as you find a new disease you're not immune to there's trouble. Because you're looking at a population which is just DNA copies over and over, so everyone is at danger. That is exactly what's happening to bananas. In some ways it's similar to asexual reproduction.

I agree with the process to some extent. But really in the end, it's defeating the purpose of sexual reproduction which is a whole other problem.
Sorry this is so long. ;-;

The appearance stuff I don't care about, it has no real relevance. People want their child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Fine with me.

We wouldn't really be engineering to prevent diseases, I think it would be more to prevent genetic disorders. The problem with having a small DNA pool would be that some recessive genes may become active in other generations. If all individuals were given some for of engineering, these problems could be avoided simply by fixing the gene in question.

It was simply an example.

Agreed. But, again if an uncureable (at the time) disease/disorder pops up, that the genes are NOT immune to we're pretty much *censored.3.0*ed. Considering the time it takes to find a cure. We can't just randomly add another gene to our code. The number of genes is so magnificent, it will be very difficult to find the one in the amount of time the disease/disorder spreads. Which would be pretty fast since we'll just be copies and copies.

I don't really see what your point is, as that could happen at any time. Just because we don't modify genes doesn't mean some disease won't come out of nowhere and wipe out humanity. It could happen either way.

 

[Princess]

If this debate is about genetic modification on humans, they're already working on that. You'll be able to choose how your baby looks like. Eye colour, etc.
The problem with it though is, if you modify something by adding a splice of a gene from something else it may be immune to one disease, but as soon as you find a new disease you're not immune to there's trouble. Because you're looking at a population which is just DNA copies over and over, so everyone is at danger. That is exactly what's happening to bananas. In some ways it's similar to asexual reproduction.

I agree with the process to some extent. But really in the end, it's defeating the purpose of sexual reproduction which is a whole other problem.
Sorry this is so long. ;-;

The appearance stuff I don't care about, it has no real relevance. People want their child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Fine with me.

We wouldn't really be engineering to prevent diseases, I think it would be more to prevent genetic disorders. The problem with having a small DNA pool would be that some recessive genes may become active in other generations. If all individuals were given some for of engineering, these problems could be avoided simply by fixing the gene in question.

It was simply an example.

Agreed. But, again if an uncureable (at the time) disease/disorder pops up, that the genes are NOT immune to we're pretty much *censored.3.0*ed. Considering the time it takes to find a cure. We can't just randomly add another gene to our code. The number of genes is so magnificent, it will be very difficult to find the one in the amount of time the disease/disorder spreads. Which would be pretty fast since we'll just be copies and copies.

I don't really see what your point is, as that could happen at any time. Just because we don't modify genes doesn't mean some disease won't come out of nowhere and wipe out humanity. It could happen either way.

What don't you understand?

Asexual reproduction (for bacteria) is used when the enviorment is unchanging.
Sexual reproduction is used when the enviorment is changing, so the offspring has a chance to survive by having different genes.
Now, obviously humans can only sexually reproduce. But if over time, we all have the same genetic code, it'll be very similar to asexual reproduction. Hence copies.

Yes, a disease can happen anytime. But we are genetically diverse. The amount of time of impact would be a huge difference.

 

[Princess]

If this debate is about genetic modification on humans, they're already working on that. You'll be able to choose how your baby looks like. Eye colour, etc.
The problem with it though is, if you modify something by adding a splice of a gene from something else it may be immune to one disease, but as soon as you find a new disease you're not immune to there's trouble. Because you're looking at a population which is just DNA copies over and over, so everyone is at danger. That is exactly what's happening to bananas. In some ways it's similar to asexual reproduction.

I agree with the process to some extent. But really in the end, it's defeating the purpose of sexual reproduction which is a whole other problem.
Sorry this is so long. ;-;

The appearance stuff I don't care about, it has no real relevance. People want their child to have blonde hair and blue eyes? Fine with me.

We wouldn't really be engineering to prevent diseases, I think it would be more to prevent genetic disorders. The problem with having a small DNA pool would be that some recessive genes may become active in other generations. If all individuals were given some for of engineering, these problems could be avoided simply by fixing the gene in question.

It was simply an example.

Agreed. But, again if an uncureable (at the time) disease/disorder pops up, that the genes are NOT immune to we're pretty much *censored.3.0*ed. Considering the time it takes to find a cure. We can't just randomly add another gene to our code. The number of genes is so magnificent, it will be very difficult to find the one in the amount of time the disease/disorder spreads. Which would be pretty fast since we'll just be copies and copies.

I don't really see what your point is, as that could happen at any time. Just because we don't modify genes doesn't mean some disease won't come out of nowhere and wipe out humanity. It could happen either way.

What don't you understand?

Asexual reproduction (for bacteria) is used when the enviorment is unchanging.
Sexual reproduction is used when the enviorment is changing, so the offspring has a chance to survive by having different genes.
Now, obviously humans can only sexually reproduce. But if over time, we all have the same genetic code, it'll be very similar to asexual reproduction. Hence copies.

Yes, a disease can happen anytime. But we are genetically diverse. The amount of time of impact would be a huge difference.

 

[Bacon Boy]

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However, this has nothing to do with the topic.

As long as they don't put *censored.2.0* in my veggie and fruits, I'm fine.

I disagree with the genetic engineering on humans. I'm leaving it at that because I'm tired.

Saying I disagree is not enough. You should be able to backup your opinions or they're worthless.

You haven't been here long enough to see me back up my opinions. And they may be worthless to you, but I couldn't really give a damn what you think.

You want my justification? I think, right now, it's too dangerous. We may have "genetic experts", but have we actually tried this on a born human? If they have, has it worked time and time again? Not that we know have. It's like building a bomb without instructions or the know how.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

However, this has nothing to do with the topic.

As long as they don't put *censored.2.0* in my veggie and fruits, I'm fine.

I disagree with the genetic engineering on humans. I'm leaving it at that because I'm tired.

Saying I disagree is not enough. You should be able to backup your opinions or they're worthless.

You haven't been here long enough to see me back up my opinions. And they may be worthless to you, but I couldn't really give a damn what you think.

You want my justification? I think, right now, it's too dangerous. We may have "genetic experts", but have we actually tried this on a born human? If they have, has it worked time and time again? Not that we know have. It's like building a bomb without instructions or the know how.

 

[Princess]

Al, I don't think it should matter when Fender joined.
He still has his opinions.

 

[Princess]

Al, I don't think it should matter when Fender joined.
He still has his opinions.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Al, I don't think it should matter when Fender joined.
He still has his opinions.

I'm talking about him assuming I don't back up my opinions with reasons.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Al, I don't think it should matter when Fender joined.
He still has his opinions.

I'm talking about him assuming I don't back up my opinions with reasons.