KingKombat
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Yes, gay people should be able to be just as miserable as straight people are
I guess what bothers me the most is how many people who are attracted to the same sex let it rule their lives and lifestyle.Comatose said:Personally, I have nothing against gay people, but the gay pride parades (and all their straight supporters) really get on my nerves. Sure you're different, but do you really have to flaunt it all the time?
I'm not against gay marriage, but I'm not for it either. My beliefs are against it, but I think that if they're going to continue in their relationship whether they're married or not, then we can't stop it.
Yeah, I agree with this. Now, it seems like gays actually have more rights than straight people. If someone disagrees with them it's automatically "omg I'm suing you for a hate crime!"Comatose said:I guess what bothers me the most is how many people who are attracted to the same sex let it rule their lives and lifestyle.Comatose said:Personally, I have nothing against gay people, but the gay pride parades (and all their straight supporters) really get on my nerves. Sure you're different, but do you really have to flaunt it all the time?
I'm not against gay marriage, but I'm not for it either. My beliefs are against it, but I think that if they're going to continue in their relationship whether they're married or not, then we can't stop it.
Being attracted to the same sex is something about you not who you are.
I'm aware that people have different beliefs, and I do respect that, but there's really no good reason why anyone should be against it. I understand that some people disagree with it because that's what their religion teaches them, but there's absolutely no reason for them to be against gay marriage. It's none of their business if gay couples are allowed to get married or not. Everyone deserves to have equal rights, no matter their gender, race, religion, or sexuality. Rejecting people of their rights is just as bad as slavery. Slaves were set free in the end, and it's well past time for gays to get their justice, too.Neo-Griever said:Actually, there are reasons to be against it, because everyone has different beliefs. I respect your views and you should respect others too.Tyeforce said:I think everyone should know my stance on the issue, lol.
I honestly don't understand why so many people are against it. There's absolutely no reason for it. Why should you care if gays are allowed to get married or not? It's not like it's going to destroy your marriage. If it wasn't for the Catholic church completely *censored.3.0*ing up the Bible with biased translations and other crap that they threw in, Christians today would have no reason to be against it. If most Christians would just realize that the Bible that they read today is very different from the original Hebrew Bible... Oh, well. It's not like anything's going to change, because churches aren't going to suddenly start using a correctly translated Bible without the added bias and crap because they're comfortable with what they know today, even if they don't realize that it's wrong.
I don't mean to get into a religious debate, I'm just stating why so many people today believe what they do. I'm Christian myself, but I don't conform to the made up stuff that is followed today.
What do you mean by "let it rule their lives and lifestyle"?Comatose said:I guess what bothers me the most is how many people who are attracted to the same sex let it rule their lives and lifestyle.Comatose said:Personally, I have nothing against gay people, but the gay pride parades (and all their straight supporters) really get on my nerves. Sure you're different, but do you really have to flaunt it all the time?
I'm not against gay marriage, but I'm not for it either. My beliefs are against it, but I think that if they're going to continue in their relationship whether they're married or not, then we can't stop it.
Being attracted to the same sex is something about you not who you are.
Like I said before, there ARE reasons why people can be against gay marriage, and It's not all about religion. Gay marriage has always been shunned by most groups of people, even people that aren't Christian.Tyeforce said:I'm aware that people have different beliefs, and I do respect that, but there's really no good reason why anyone should be against it. I understand that some people disagree with it because that's what their religion teaches them, but there's absolutely no reason for them to be against gay marriage. It's none of their business if gay couples are allowed to get married or not. Everyone deserves to have equal rights, no matter their gender, race, religion, or sexuality. Rejecting people of their rights is just as bad as slavery. Slaves were set free in the end, and it's well past time for gays to get their justice, too.Neo-Griever said:Actually, there are reasons to be against it, because everyone has different beliefs. I respect your views and you should respect others too.Tyeforce said:I think everyone should know my stance on the issue, lol.
I honestly don't understand why so many people are against it. There's absolutely no reason for it. Why should you care if gays are allowed to get married or not? It's not like it's going to destroy your marriage. If it wasn't for the Catholic church completely *censored.3.0*ing up the Bible with biased translations and other crap that they threw in, Christians today would have no reason to be against it. If most Christians would just realize that the Bible that they read today is very different from the original Hebrew Bible... Oh, well. It's not like anything's going to change, because churches aren't going to suddenly start using a correctly translated Bible without the added bias and crap because they're comfortable with what they know today, even if they don't realize that it's wrong.
I don't mean to get into a religious debate, I'm just stating why so many people today believe what they do. I'm Christian myself, but I don't conform to the made up stuff that is followed today.
...where are they asking for "special treatment"? Is having the same rights as any other couple "special treatment" now?Bacon Boy said:The only thing I really hate about gay people, is that if they want to be treated like normal people, then there shouldn't be any special treatment for them. Like in the court system, etc.
Right there is what I'm talking about.Tyeforce said:I'm aware that people have different beliefs, and I do respect that, but there's really no good reason why anyone should be against it. I understand that some people disagree with it because that's what their religion teaches them, but there's absolutely no reason for them to be against gay marriage. It's none of their business if gay couples are allowed to get married or not. Everyone deserves to have equal rights, no matter their gender, race, religion, or sexuality. Rejecting people of their rights is just as bad as slavery. Slaves were set free in the end, and it's well past time for gays to get their justice, too.Neo-Griever said:Actually, there are reasons to be against it, because everyone has different beliefs. I respect your views and you should respect others too.Tyeforce said:I think everyone should know my stance on the issue, lol.
I honestly don't understand why so many people are against it. There's absolutely no reason for it. Why should you care if gays are allowed to get married or not? It's not like it's going to destroy your marriage. If it wasn't for the Catholic church completely *censored.3.0*ing up the Bible with biased translations and other crap that they threw in, Christians today would have no reason to be against it. If most Christians would just realize that the Bible that they read today is very different from the original Hebrew Bible... Oh, well. It's not like anything's going to change, because churches aren't going to suddenly start using a correctly translated Bible without the added bias and crap because they're comfortable with what they know today, even if they don't realize that it's wrong.
I don't mean to get into a religious debate, I'm just stating why so many people today believe what they do. I'm Christian myself, but I don't conform to the made up stuff that is followed today.
I can't think of many gay people I've known that act like that at all. Most of that stuff is limited to television and movie characters, and stars, which I'm sure everyone can agree are almost all completely nuts. Yes, your sexuality is about what you are, not who you are, and it has little effect on how you behave, and most gays nowadays feel that way.Neo-Griever said:Yeah, I agree with this. Now, it seems like gays actually have more rights than straight people. If someone disagrees with them it's automatically "omg I'm suing you for a hate crime!"Comatose said:I guess what bothers me the most is how many people who are attracted to the same sex let it rule their lives and lifestyle.
Being attracted to the same sex is something about you not who you are.
No, but I've known plenty of gay people that demand special treatment. And my friends do too. There are stories about it, etc. You may have never heard of those stories, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.//RUN.exe said:...where are they asking for "special treatment"? Is having the same rights as any other couple "special treatment" now?Bacon Boy said:The only thing I really hate about gay people, is that if they want to be treated like normal people, then there shouldn't be any special treatment for them. Like in the court system, etc.
It most certainly does not. Yes, there's a hate crime law now, but you can't just get someone arrested for calling you names or something. >_> The purpose is the law is for hate crimes like someone breaking into your car because you have a gay pride sticker on it and beating you up, or even killing you. I know that's happened where I live now, and that's just not right. What's worse is the people would actually get away with it, because so much of our government has an irrational hatred for gays, especially southern states.Neo-Griever said:Yeah, I agree with this. Now, it seems like gays actually have more rights than straight people. If someone disagrees with them it's automatically "omg I'm suing you for a hate crime!"Comatose said:I guess what bothers me the most is how many people who are attracted to the same sex let it rule their lives and lifestyle.Comatose said:Personally, I have nothing against gay people, but the gay pride parades (and all their straight supporters) really get on my nerves. Sure you're different, but do you really have to flaunt it all the time?
I'm not against gay marriage, but I'm not for it either. My beliefs are against it, but I think that if they're going to continue in their relationship whether they're married or not, then we can't stop it.
Being attracted to the same sex is something about you not who you are.
But anything can be called a hate crime, and it happens all the time. The definition is so broad that hate crimes can be used so people won't be able to have an opinion anymore.Shadow Jolteon said:I can't think of many gay people I've known that act like that at all. Most of that stuff is limited to television and movie characters, and stars, which I'm sure everyone can agree are almost all completely nuts. Yes, your sexuality is about what you are, not who you are, and it has little effect on how you behave, and most gays nowadays feel that way.Neo-Griever said:Yeah, I agree with this. Now, it seems like gays actually have more rights than straight people. If someone disagrees with them it's automatically "omg I'm suing you for a hate crime!"Comatose said:I guess what bothers me the most is how many people who are attracted to the same sex let it rule their lives and lifestyle.
Being attracted to the same sex is something about you not who you are.
As for the hate crime thing, that's not a right, it's a law to make punishment a bit more severe for those who commit violent crimes against someone for the purpose of their hate. By that logic, the hate crimes bill as a whole should be removed and there would be no punishment for crimes committed out of hate. I've not heard anything about gays trying to sue someone for disagreeing with them. Do lawsuits even fit in with hate crimes?
Ah, well, I guess people's ideas of stereotypes are still pretty strong, unfortunately.
It's no more of a label than "Christian", "American", or "male" is...Comatose said:Right there is what I'm talking about.Tyeforce said:I'm aware that people have different beliefs, and I do respect that, but there's really no good reason why anyone should be against it. I understand that some people disagree with it because that's what their religion teaches them, but there's absolutely no reason for them to be against gay marriage. It's none of their business if gay couples are allowed to get married or not. Everyone deserves to have equal rights, no matter their gender, race, religion, or sexuality. Rejecting people of their rights is just as bad as slavery. Slaves were set free in the end, and it's well past time for gays to get their justice, too.Neo-Griever said:Actually, there are reasons to be against it, because everyone has different beliefs. I respect your views and you should respect others too.Tyeforce said:I think everyone should know my stance on the issue, lol.
I honestly don't understand why so many people are against it. There's absolutely no reason for it. Why should you care if gays are allowed to get married or not? It's not like it's going to destroy your marriage. If it wasn't for the Catholic church completely *censored.3.0*ing up the Bible with biased translations and other crap that they threw in, Christians today would have no reason to be against it. If most Christians would just realize that the Bible that they read today is very different from the original Hebrew Bible... Oh, well. It's not like anything's going to change, because churches aren't going to suddenly start using a correctly translated Bible without the added bias and crap because they're comfortable with what they know today, even if they don't realize that it's wrong.
I don't mean to get into a religious debate, I'm just stating why so many people today believe what they do. I'm Christian myself, but I don't conform to the made up stuff that is followed today.
Who cares about what gender a person is attracted to? It's not who they are. They are still a human being.
Gay is a label which I think needs to be done away with. Enough with people being called 'gay', 'bi', or 'straight'. We're all just humans, and that's what we should be called. No special rights (or discrimination) for anyone regardless of sex, sexual preference, race...
Teenagers being ******** != all gay people demand special treatmentBacon Boy said:No, but I've known plenty of gay people that demand special treatment. And my friends do too. There are stories about it, etc. You may have never heard of those stories, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.//RUN.exe said:...where are they asking for "special treatment"? Is having the same rights as any other couple "special treatment" now?Bacon Boy said:The only thing I really hate about gay people, is that if they want to be treated like normal people, then there shouldn't be any special treatment for them. Like in the court system, etc.
And they're not demanding "special treatment", they're demanding equality. You know, what the African Americans and women did, and they got the equality that they deserved. Now why are gays being held back?!//RUN.exe said:Teenagers being ******** != all gay people demand special treatmentBacon Boy said:No, but I've known plenty of gay people that demand special treatment. And my friends do too. There are stories about it, etc. You may have never heard of those stories, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.//RUN.exe said:...where are they asking for "special treatment"? Is having the same rights as any other couple "special treatment" now?Bacon Boy said:The only thing I really hate about gay people, is that if they want to be treated like normal people, then there shouldn't be any special treatment for them. Like in the court system, etc.
All labels are stupid. It leads to stereotypes and people thinking differently because they 'fit under a certain label'.Tyeforce said:It's no more of a label than "Christian", "American", or "male" is...Comatose said:Right there is what I'm talking about.Tyeforce said:I'm aware that people have different beliefs, and I do respect that, but there's really no good reason why anyone should be against it. I understand that some people disagree with it because that's what their religion teaches them, but there's absolutely no reason for them to be against gay marriage. It's none of their business if gay couples are allowed to get married or not. Everyone deserves to have equal rights, no matter their gender, race, religion, or sexuality. Rejecting people of their rights is just as bad as slavery. Slaves were set free in the end, and it's well past time for gays to get their justice, too.Neo-Griever said:Actually, there are reasons to be against it, because everyone has different beliefs. I respect your views and you should respect others too.Tyeforce said:I think everyone should know my stance on the issue, lol.
I honestly don't understand why so many people are against it. There's absolutely no reason for it. Why should you care if gays are allowed to get married or not? It's not like it's going to destroy your marriage. If it wasn't for the Catholic church completely *censored.3.0*ing up the Bible with biased translations and other crap that they threw in, Christians today would have no reason to be against it. If most Christians would just realize that the Bible that they read today is very different from the original Hebrew Bible... Oh, well. It's not like anything's going to change, because churches aren't going to suddenly start using a correctly translated Bible without the added bias and crap because they're comfortable with what they know today, even if they don't realize that it's wrong.
I don't mean to get into a religious debate, I'm just stating why so many people today believe what they do. I'm Christian myself, but I don't conform to the made up stuff that is followed today.
Who cares about what gender a person is attracted to? It's not who they are. They are still a human being.
Gay is a label which I think needs to be done away with. Enough with people being called 'gay', 'bi', or 'straight'. We're all just humans, and that's what we should be called. No special rights (or discrimination) for anyone regardless of sex, sexual preference, race...