first person shooters

You're not killing people, you're pushing a button that sets off a chain reaction of pixels rapidly changing colours to display a fictional image that has no meaning whatsoever to life outside of the screen.

Oh and about the Topic, it looks ok, but I'm not convinced yet.
 
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
AndyB said:
Jas0n said:
I lol'ed at the comparison of killing people and killing people in real life.

Pixels on a screen =/= a living, breathing human being with thoughts and feelings, no matter how realistic the graphics look. FPS games aren't fun because the people playing them get fun out of slaughtering other human beings, and if you think this you are SERIOUSLY messed up.
I laughed evenmore at the people trying to justify either and explain the game.
Tye doesn't care for them, so leave it at that.
Not liking them is one thing, saying everyone who plays them likes killing human beings is another.
I'm not saying that everyone who likes them likes killing human beings, but the fact remains that they could be playing other games that don't involve excessive violence and killing people. I just don't see how anyone could play those games and enjoy killing people, be it virtual or not. Yes, virtual isn't real, but the principle still exists. You're killing people.
No, were making pixels fall over and getting points
 
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
AndyB said:
Jas0n said:
I lol'ed at the comparison of killing people and killing people in real life.

Pixels on a screen =/= a living, breathing human being with thoughts and feelings, no matter how realistic the graphics look. FPS games aren't fun because the people playing them get fun out of slaughtering other human beings, and if you think this you are SERIOUSLY messed up.
I laughed evenmore at the people trying to justify either and explain the game.
Tye doesn't care for them, so leave it at that.
Not liking them is one thing, saying everyone who plays them likes killing human beings is another.
I'm not saying that everyone who likes them likes killing human beings, but the fact remains that they could be playing other games that don't involve excessive violence and killing people. I just don't see how anyone could play those games and enjoy killing people, be it virtual or not. Yes, virtual isn't real, but the principle still exists. You're killing people.
They could do, but why shouldn't they play FPS games? Whether it's people or not makes NO difference what so ever, they're pixels. Change the pixels around a bit and you have a koopa.

As I said before, people don't play these games and enjoy killing people, they enjoy them because of the story and challenge of competing with other human beings. Also as I said before, if you believe people play these games for the pure enjoyment of killing people, you are messed up.

The principle DOESN'T exist, the people have no past, no future, no feelings, no thoughts, no soul and they'll respawn 2 minutes later. They are not people and you are not killing them, you are removing their pixels from a screen.
 
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
AndyB said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
Not liking them is one thing, saying everyone who plays them likes killing human beings is another.
I'm not saying that everyone who likes them likes killing human beings, but the fact remains that they could be playing other games that don't involve excessive violence and killing people. I just don't see how anyone could play those games and enjoy killing people, be it virtual or not. Yes, virtual isn't real, but the principle still exists. You're killing people.
They could do, but why shouldn't they play FPS games? Whether it's people or not makes NO difference what so ever, they're pixels. Change the pixels around a bit and you have a koopa.

As I said before, people don't play these games and enjoy killing people, they enjoy them because of the story and challenge of competing with other human beings. Also as I said before, if you believe people play these games for the pure enjoyment of killing people, you are messed up.

The principle DOESN'T exist, the people have no past, no future, no feelings, no thoughts, no soul and they'll respawn 2 minutes later. They are not people and you are not killing them, you are removing their pixels from a screen.
And most of the time, they fade from the screen. It's not like they're always laying there. And it's even more graphic in mario. You're stomping on a creature and crushing its internal organs and bone structure. As well as dropping a creature into boiling hot lava.
 
Bacon Boy said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Jas0n said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
I'm not saying that everyone who likes them likes killing human beings, but the fact remains that they could be playing other games that don't involve excessive violence and killing people. I just don't see how anyone could play those games and enjoy killing people, be it virtual or not. Yes, virtual isn't real, but the principle still exists. You're killing people.
They could do, but why shouldn't they play FPS games? Whether it's people or not makes NO difference what so ever, they're pixels. Change the pixels around a bit and you have a koopa.

As I said before, people don't play these games and enjoy killing people, they enjoy them because of the story and challenge of competing with other human beings. Also as I said before, if you believe people play these games for the pure enjoyment of killing people, you are messed up.

The principle DOESN'T exist, the people have no past, no future, no feelings, no thoughts, no soul and they'll respawn 2 minutes later. They are not people and you are not killing them, you are removing their pixels from a screen.
And most of the time, they fade from the screen. It's not like they're always laying there. And it's even more graphic in mario. You're stomping on a creature and crushing its internal organs and bone structure. As well as dropping a creature into boiling hot lava.
yeah the bodies do actually fade away, they dont pile up or anything.they lay there for a but but then theyre gone.
 
Marcus said:
You're not killing people, you're pushing a button that sets off a chain reaction of pixels rapidly changing colours to display a fictional image that has no meaning whatsoever to life outside of the screen.

Oh and about the Topic, it looks ok, but I'm not convinced yet.
You could think like that, but then you're just being thick. Yes, it's not real. I know that. But you're playing a game where you shoot people to death. It doesn't matter if they're pixels or not, you're still creating an image of killing a human being.

Now, I don't judge people by the games they play. I have lots of friends who enjoy FPS games, but I don't think they're bad people because of it. I just question what goes on in their head when they're playing games like that and killing people... Have they no feeling, no emotion, no heart? (Well, most of my friends who play such games are people who don't show any emotion and can be very hateful and violent... Granted, most of the time it's just because they're acting like /b/tards, but still.) No, I don't believe that playing games like that makes you a bad person, nor do I think that you have no heart or anything. I just think that you have to be pretty thick to not let the reality of what you're playing affect you.
 
David said:
Bacon Boy said:
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepeveryone who likes them likes killing human beings, but the fact remains that they could be playing other games that don't involve excessive violence and killing people. I just don't see how anyone could play those games and enjoy killing people, be it virtual or not. Yes, virtual isn't real, but the principle still exists. You're killing people.
They could do, but why shouldn't they play FPS games? Whether it's people or not makes NO difference what so ever, they're pixels. Change the pixels around a bit and you have a koopa.

As I said before, people don't play these games and enjoy killing people, they enjoy them because of the story and challenge of competing with other human beings. Also as I said before, if you believe people play these games for the pure enjoyment of killing people, you are messed up.

The principle DOESN'T exist, the people have no past, no future, no feelings, no thoughts, no soul and they'll respawn 2 minutes later. They are not people and you are not killing them, you are removing their pixels from a screen.
And most of the time, they fade from the screen. It's not like they're always laying there. And it's even more graphic in mario. You're stomping on a creature and crushing its internal organs and bone structure. As well as dropping a creature into boiling hot lava.
yeah the bodies do actually fade away, they dont pile up or anything.they lay there for a but but then theyre gone.
Yep they only stay for scavenger
 
Tyeforce said:
Marcus said:
You're not killing people, you're pushing a button that sets off a chain reaction of pixels rapidly changing colours to display a fictional image that has no meaning whatsoever to life outside of the screen.

Oh and about the Topic, it looks ok, but I'm not convinced yet.
You could think like that, but then you're just being thick. Yes, it's not real. I know that. But you're playing a game where you shoot people to death. It doesn't matter if they're pixels or not, you're still creating an image of killing a human being.

Now, I don't judge people by the games they play. I have lots of friends who enjoy FPS games, but I don't think they're bad people because of it. I just question what goes on in their head when they're playing games like that and killing people... Have they no feeling, no emotion, no heart? (Well, most of my friends who play such games are people who don't show any emotion and can be very hateful and violent... Granted, most of the time it's just because they're acting like /b/tards, but still.) No, I don't believe that playing games like that makes you a bad person, nor do I think that you have no heart or anything. I just think that you have to be pretty thick to not let the reality of what you're playing affect you.
i dont know how many times its been said, but people play these games because of the stories and its fun challenging their buddies online, and it also gives insight to what the marines and other divisions do. you have never played a call of duty game, and you probably dont know the stories either, all you think it is is killing people, and thats just ridiculous. and yes there is some emotion involved when playing these games, that one airport mission was pretty intense. i didnt actually shoot anyone though. :p
 
Tyeforce said:
Marcus said:
You're not killing people, you're pushing a button that sets off a chain reaction of pixels rapidly changing colours to display a fictional image that has no meaning whatsoever to life outside of the screen.

Oh and about the Topic, it looks ok, but I'm not convinced yet.
You could think like that, but then you're just being thick. Yes, it's not real. I know that. But you're playing a game where you shoot people to death. It doesn't matter if they're pixels or not, you're still creating an image of killing a human being.

Now, I don't judge people by the games they play. I have lots of friends who enjoy FPS games, but I don't think they're bad people because of it. I just question what goes on in their head when they're playing games like that and killing people... Have they no feeling, no emotion, no heart? (Well, most of my friends who play such games are people who don't show any emotion and can be very hateful and violent... Granted, most of the time it's just because they're acting like /b/tards, but still.) No, I don't believe that playing games like that makes you a bad person, nor do I think that you have no heart or anything. I just think that you have to be pretty thick to not let the reality of what you're playing affect you.
I give up with you, you are not coming up with any argument other than, "You're killing an image of a human"

Do you HONESTLY believe that the people playing these games are going to go outside with a gun and run down the street killing people? Or that they get enjoyment over seeing a human being die?

Let's take this as an example. I just deleted a picture of my dad off my computer, basically deleting his pixels, the same as you do when you kill a person in a game. Does that mean I want my dad dead?
 
Jas0n said:
Tyeforce said:
Marcus said:
You're not killing people, you're pushing a button that sets off a chain reaction of pixels rapidly changing colours to display a fictional image that has no meaning whatsoever to life outside of the screen.

Oh and about the Topic, it looks ok, but I'm not convinced yet.
You could think like that, but then you're just being thick. Yes, it's not real. I know that. But you're playing a game where you shoot people to death. It doesn't matter if they're pixels or not, you're still creating an image of killing a human being.

Now, I don't judge people by the games they play. I have lots of friends who enjoy FPS games, but I don't think they're bad people because of it. I just question what goes on in their head when they're playing games like that and killing people... Have they no feeling, no emotion, no heart? (Well, most of my friends who play such games are people who don't show any emotion and can be very hateful and violent... Granted, most of the time it's just because they're acting like /b/tards, but still.) No, I don't believe that playing games like that makes you a bad person, nor do I think that you have no heart or anything. I just think that you have to be pretty thick to not let the reality of what you're playing affect you.
I give up with you, you are not coming up with any argument other than, "You're killing an image of a human"

Do you HONESTLY believe that the people playing these games are going to go outside with a gun and run down the street killing people? Or that they get enjoyment over seeing a human being die?

Let's take this as an example. I just deleted a picture of my dad off my computer, basically deleting his pixels, the same as you do when you kill a person in a game. Does that mean I want my dad dead?
According to Tye, yes. It's been said over and over, they're just pixels. There are those deranged lunatics who take joy in killing, but they tend to do that in real life.
 
Tyeforce said:
Marcus said:
You're not killing people, you're pushing a button that sets off a chain reaction of pixels rapidly changing colours to display a fictional image that has no meaning whatsoever to life outside of the screen.

Oh and about the Topic, it looks ok, but I'm not convinced yet.
You could think like that, but then you're just being thick. Yes, it's not real. I know that. But you're playing a game where you shoot people to death. It doesn't matter if they're pixels or not, you're still creating an image of killing a human being.

Now, I don't judge people by the games they play. I have lots of friends who enjoy FPS games, but I don't think they're bad people because of it. I just question what goes on in their head when they're playing games like that and killing people... Have they no feeling, no emotion, no heart? (Well, most of my friends who play such games are people who don't show any emotion and can be very hateful and violent... Granted, most of the time it's just because they're acting like /b/tards, but still.) No, I don't believe that playing games like that makes you a bad person, nor do I think that you have no heart or anything. I just think that you have to be pretty thick to not let the reality of what you're playing affect you.
Actually I'm not being thick I'm taking thing as they are. We don't play them to go round ,"OH YEAH GO ME I LURV KILLING PEOPLE OOH YEAH LIFE'S GOOOOD!" no, we play them to test our reactions, aiming and just play a game that is exhilarating with other people online. If that's too much for you, fine, but don't complain. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
 
Seriously, most people are able to separate reality from a video game. You do it all the time. When people kill someone else in a multiplayer shooter, they don't think, "Die, you infidel scum! Allah will surely reward me!" What they do think is "Hah, get some, *censored.1.3* on the other side of the internet." The realism is there to make it engaging and interesting, not to desensitize you to violence. I've heard a lot of stories of first-time soldiers soiling themselves during their first combat experience, but I've never heard of someone pissing themselves the first time they played Modern Warfare, unless it was from excitement.
 
Tyeforce said:
TravisTouchdown said:
Tyeforce said:
Gnome said:
Pokemon shows animal fights.
First of all, they're not animals, they're creatures born to fight. And they don't kill each other, just knock each other out.
http://www.onemanga.com/Pokemon_Special/14/12/
That would be the manga, not associated with the games at all. It's not made by Nintendo or Game Freak, so it's not canon, and that's not what happens in the games. And even if it was, it's not much different than animals killing each other in nature. But it's not like people are shooting them with guns.
Bulbapedia said:
 
Marcus said:
Tyeforce said:
Marcus said:
You're not killing people, you're pushing a button that sets off a chain reaction of pixels rapidly changing colours to display a fictional image that has no meaning whatsoever to life outside of the screen.

Oh and about the Topic, it looks ok, but I'm not convinced yet.
You could think like that, but then you're just being thick. Yes, it's not real. I know that. But you're playing a game where you shoot people to death. It doesn't matter if they're pixels or not, you're still creating an image of killing a human being.

Now, I don't judge people by the games they play. I have lots of friends who enjoy FPS games, but I don't think they're bad people because of it. I just question what goes on in their head when they're playing games like that and killing people... Have they no feeling, no emotion, no heart? (Well, most of my friends who play such games are people who don't show any emotion and can be very hateful and violent... Granted, most of the time it's just because they're acting like /b/tards, but still.) No, I don't believe that playing games like that makes you a bad person, nor do I think that you have no heart or anything. I just think that you have to be pretty thick to not let the reality of what you're playing affect you.
Actually I'm not being thick I'm taking thing as they are. We don't play them to go round ,"OH YEAH GO ME I LURV KILLING PEOPLE OOH YEAH LIFE'S GOOOOD!" no, Iwe play them to test our reactions, aiming and just play a game that is exhilarating with other people online. If that's too much for you, fine, but don't complain. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
it does actually greatly improve reflexes, ive caught all sorts of things at ridiculous speeds when they fall beside me or something.
 
David said:
Marcus said:
Tyeforce said:
Marcus said:
You're not killing people, you're pushing a button that sets off a chain reaction of pixels rapidly changing colours to display a fictional image that has no meaning whatsoever to life outside of the screen.

Oh and about the Topic, it looks ok, but I'm not convinced yet.
You could think like that, but then you're just being thick. Yes, it's not real. I know that. But you're playing a game where you shoot people to death. It doesn't matter if they're pixels or not, you're still creating an image of killing a human being.

Now, I don't judge people by the games they play. I have lots of friends who enjoy FPS games, but I don't think they're bad people because of it. I just question what goes on in their head when they're playing games like that and killing people... Have they no feeling, no emotion, no heart? (Well, most of my friends who play such games are people who don't show any emotion and can be very hateful and violent... Granted, most of the time it's just because they're acting like /b/tards, but still.) No, I don't believe that playing games like that makes you a bad person, nor do I think that you have no heart or anything. I just think that you have to be pretty thick to not let the reality of what you're playing affect you.
Actually I'm not being thick I'm taking thing as they are. We don't play them to go round ,"OH YEAH GO ME I LURV KILLING PEOPLE OOH YEAH LIFE'S GOOOOD!" no, Iwe play them to test our reactions, aiming and just play a game that is exhilarating with other people online. If that's too much for you, fine, but don't complain. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
it does actually greatly improve reflexes, ive caught all sorts of things at ridiculous speeds when they fall beside me or something.
MW2 turned David into Spider-Man.
 
Rawburt said:
David said:
Marcus said:
Tyeforce said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
Actually I'm not being thick I'm taking thing as they are. We don't play them to go round ,"OH YEAH GO ME I LURV KILLING PEOPLE OOH YEAH LIFE'S GOOOOD!" no, Iwe play them to test our reactions, aiming and just play a game that is exhilarating with other people online. If that's too much for you, fine, but don't complain. Don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
it does actually greatly improve reflexes, ive caught all sorts of things at ridiculous speeds when they fall beside me or something.
MW2 turned David into Spider-Man.
lol, pretty much.
 
Kid Icarus said:
MW2 also teaches you to use sound to your advantage
for example i listen out for foot steps
well if russia ever invades the americas, we'll all have be using things we learned from call of duty to try to stay alive longer, and tye will ultimately be flipping through his latest mario instruction booklet.
 
Why do these people want to kill other people in games that caused that kid to shoot his parents when they took his x box and halo game :|
 
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