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Fire Emblem Permadeath
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Yea, true, which is why I compared restarting on deaths to sort of like an 'in between' difficulty from regular and casual. You have to win a battle with everybody alive unlike casual, but you get to try that level as many times as you want unlike playing 'regularly'.
Nobody directly said it's for 'scrubs' etc, it's just the way some people talk about it sounds like it's implied.
I am more of a casual gamer but it did get a bit too easy :/ it was also my first fe game i played(awakening)
pillow bunny
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They should just get rid of classic.
The "proper" way to play the game is to reset whenever a character dies. Classic is pointless if no characters are going to die. It just doesn't work, so the best option is to rebalance casual. They can't keep both modes, because then there can't be like, instant death attacks and stuff (ruins classic) or weakish enemies that most likely won't kill any units (ruins casual). Either one mode will be good and the other unplayable, or both will be pretty bad. It doesn't matter that classic is a series tradition; they've gotten rid of some other stuff like weapon uses, since Awakening made it into a minor annoyance affecting half the units rather than an actual gameplay mechanic.
Actually, you know what? They might as well just get rid of the game part and make it 100% a dating sim. There's not even any strategy anymore, it's just Uwu Marry your kawaii desu Waifu while occasionally killing Evil dudes XD
The "proper" way to play the game is to reset whenever a character dies. Classic is pointless if no characters are going to die. It just doesn't work, so the best option is to rebalance casual. They can't keep both modes, because then there can't be like, instant death attacks and stuff (ruins classic) or weakish enemies that most likely won't kill any units (ruins casual). Either one mode will be good and the other unplayable, or both will be pretty bad. It doesn't matter that classic is a series tradition; they've gotten rid of some other stuff like weapon uses, since Awakening made it into a minor annoyance affecting half the units rather than an actual gameplay mechanic.
nothing that you just said makes any sense
Do people seriously still complain about this (not targetting you personally)? That's a completely OPTIONAL feature of the game and it's annoying seeing others complain about something they don't have to do =P
pillow bunny
Senior Member
i know i just wanted tbt bells and this was the first topic i saw
pillow bunny
Senior Member
that's stupid. the gameplay and story clearly suffer at the expense of Uwu we must have 10,000 support conversationz, quantity over quality xd lol. if the rest of the game was actually good then I'd be willing to ignore them, but they're not so yeah. "it's optional" is a terrible argument because it's part of the main game and you have to view them to unlock half the characters, and there's even one scripted marriage that happens during the plot. no, it's not okay because you can skip it. if you don't like part of a book can you skip it and pretend it didn't happen? fates is apparently transphobic or something, is it okay because it's optional?
it's not an optional feature unless you consider the plot an optional feature. the hubba tester is an example of an optional feature.
pokedude729
Cat King
^ How does the story suffer? It is a top notch story with a bunch of twists and turns
And the gameplay is still solid as the other games (or at least as far as I got in the other games)
Like how Robin was specifically created to be a vessel for Grima
And the gameplay is still solid as the other games (or at least as far as I got in the other games)
The thing about it saying 'gays are wrong and need to be cured'?
Yea, that looks to be nothing more than Tumblr taking stuff out of context so they have something to be butthurt about (I mean, this 'argument' literally started on Tumblr). I read the overview of what happens during that 'questline' (?) and it's one of those things where if it happened to a straight Caucasian male, nobody would care because they're not a minority. There's literally nothing wrong with it, it's just a silly questline.
This is the general gist of it from what I remember:
A lesbian character becomes 'weak at the knees' and useless around pretty girls. She's looking for a cure (this is the exact point where Tumblr took it out of context) so that she will be able to act cool around other girls instead of turning into a bumbling idiot. At the end of the event she's still a lesbian, she just gets 'cured' and can talk to girls now.
I've seen that character type hundreds of times for straight males in Anime and nobody says a thing.
A lesbian character becomes 'weak at the knees' and useless around pretty girls. She's looking for a cure (this is the exact point where Tumblr took it out of context) so that she will be able to act cool around other girls instead of turning into a bumbling idiot. At the end of the event she's still a lesbian, she just gets 'cured' and can talk to girls now.
I've seen that character type hundreds of times for straight males in Anime and nobody says a thing.
EpicGamer12
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the reason she needed the "cure" is because she literally couldn't fight on the battlefield if she saw other girls and obviously that's a pretty easy way to die
It was still a misinformed argument though.
She didn't want a cure to stop being a lesbian, she wanted a cure to stop being that bumbling idiot character who can't function properly around girls that we've seen a bazillion times as a straight male character.
I'm not sure where transphobia came from. I think Japan views gender much more differently than the west does - I guess it's more... enforced. It's actually very common in games that theres always one boy character (this case, Foleo) who dresses up very feminine. Sometimes they pretend they're a girl to avoid harassment, and later in the game you usually find out they're actually a guy. The west views this as transphobic, (because they're actually a girl to the west) while not understanding Japan's cultural differences.
It's not actually transmisogynist. It's stupid to view Foleo as a trans girl anyway, when he says a lot that he's a boy. I don't know why these people would use Foleo as their "trans representation" anyway, Foleo is a horrible example. It reminds me of Chihiro from SDR2.
As for Soleil, you can't deny that it's stupid she can't marry /any/ girls at all. Not even female kamui. I find it annoying honestly, and I'll probably be avoiding any of her male S supports. It makes me upset that she flirts more than that gay Tharja clone does, yet she can't even marry female kamui.
Most people have a problem with the support because male kamui drugs her without her consent. Yeah it's to help her, but still honestly they could've written that support another way.
Basically, people are insulted that the most biggest girl flirter in the game is basically limited to men for marriage.
I don't really like the gay options to be honest, Zero is apparently a masochist or something? Uh okay. And I get the Tharja clone? No thank you. Tbh if we got Soleil instead of the ugly tharja clone I wouldn't have cared about this game.
I'm sure that this wasn't intended, but that's actually pretty accurate to how things actually work. Not everybody swings both ways.
I mean, they probably didn't limit it on purpose (or at least for that reason) but it makes a whole lot more sense than something like Skyrim (for example) where the entire kingdom is bisexual.
In my opinion, they should expand this limitation and make certain characters strictly homosexual as well so that when I decide I want to marry a certain character, uh-oh, they're gay! Off to the friend zone I go...
But saying that, I don't play Fire Emblem for the gripping dating simulation. It's probably the part of the game I give the least ****s about.
I don't mind if they make gay only characters, but it's just weird because she's a lot better than the Tharja clone IMO. I don't really want to marry a stalker. I know Nintendo is taking steps, but I feel like it would've made more sense for her to be the gay option instead of a literal Tharja clone.
But yeah, I don't care too much about marriage. I mostly only care for stats. I hear most of the hoshido kids suck though so lol
this isnt like roofies or something its just a silly part of the support, soleil even goes on to use it for her own purposes later on
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also yeah its like rui in gatchaman
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but yeah i agree its stupid that she doesnt get s supports with girls
pokedude729
Cat King
How did we get onto the topic about how Fates allows for Same sex Marriage?
Idk, I thought this was a thread discussing Permadeath in Fire Emblem... 0_o...
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