Economic Collapse
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The government isn't trying to get out of debt, but you can do both if you cut back on the government spending (which has been increasing nonstop for ages)VantagE said:
Well, yes, cutting back on spending will help, and obviously a tax increase isn't the best and only solution, but I think it could help. In fact, I think regardless of who the President will be -- Obama or McCain -- taxes WILL be raised very soon.
The overall solution is cutting back government drastically. I mean raising taxes could technically help to reverse this debt, but I doubt the next president has any interest in using it for good things like that. Besides, low taxes are better for the economy in general. The less government steals, the more people can buy, the better businesses do, the more they can pay their employees, the better the economy...Bulerias said:
Especially when a government forces you to hand it over so they can give it to their best buddies in the big corporations and accidentally crash the entire economic system in the process. :gyroidsurprised: [/quote]lolz. Or spend it for their own personal benefits.stormcommander said:still nowai.Shadow_][quote="stormcommander said:Well let me put it this way... when the US went through it's Great Depression in the 30s the entire world did the same. And when there's depression and collapse everywhere... not good things happen. The depression is what helped bring Nazi Germany and Adolf Hitler to power.Justin125 said:nowai.stormcommander said:It will affect you too.
The irony of these things (which is mentioned in the video for the current situation) is that government tries to fix the problem. But the problem itself is government so they only make it worse until... collapse. The Great Depression, for example, would have been over shortly if the free market was left alone to handle it. However, the US government under FDR lengthened it (a lot) with government intervention.
But money does make the world go 'round.
The fact that our government is just printing money is just going to create another huge inflation literally destroying the dollar. (More than it is already) It's really stupid and the fact that we're printing more money when we're already in debt, is ridiculous.
I really don't think either McCain or Obama will be able to fix the economy during the next few terms and we'll definitely be having problems much worse than what we're experiencing now with the economy in the future.
I really don't think either McCain or Obama will be able to fix the economy during the next few terms and we'll definitely be having problems much worse than what we're experiencing now with the economy in the future.
I agree with OCM except for one thing -- I think it's a little unfair to equate Obama's and McCain's policies. Admittedly, if Obama gets elected and Congress has a Republican majority (or vice versa), then yes, things will stay the same. But things are looking good for a Democratic majority if Obama wins... things will change, but not immediately. It'll kind of be like what happened after the Great Depression and Roosevelt's New Deal... decisive action will be taken and the people will be reassured for a time, but it'll take quite a bit of time for the economy to heal.
well, no guns. So we can't defend ourselves and if someone breaks in, we'd be defensless. "But then the criminals wouldn't have guns, they'd be illegal." And so is marujana, but people still buy it. We'd be defenseless. Then, we wouldn't be able to choose the schools or doctors we go to, we'd be forced to follow the government's rules for our lives. Need some more?OddCrazyMe said:
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What a way to finish off the Bush administration.
Also, don't play the race card Bacon, because that's what it seems like you are doing.
Also, don't play the race card Bacon, because that's what it seems like you are doing.
While you are correct about the first statement being a communism ideal, the second amendment prevents that. The reason why we have the right to bear arms is because before the Enlightenment everyone was an absolute monarch, and one of their policies was that only their loyal military could bear arms.Bacon Boy said:
I do recall that Pennsylvania was trying to create a law saying you had to pay a certain amount of money for each gun you own. (It's ridiculous really....)
Anyway, as for your second statement that's not even a communist ideal. Communism is when the government owns everything and distributes it equally. The choice of school would still probably be yours, otherwise you'd be falling into the category of totalitarianism.
The idea of Obama having communistic ideals has been debunked time and time again. Of course, your point about guns is valid, Bacon, but then you may as well call all Democrats communists. Which wouldn't be valid.
Before anyone asks, I'm an independent liberal... hence why I tend to lean toward the Democrats' way of thinking.
Before anyone asks, I'm an independent liberal... hence why I tend to lean toward the Democrats' way of thinking.
I'm sure Obama will be the most communist president yet. Bush, perhaps, being the current most communist. But what's important to point out is that Obama and McCain are almost exactly the same on every issue. Also, Obama isn't as anti-gun as some may say. However, he does not take the pro-freedom position when it comes to guns. Neither does McCain though.Bulerias said:
I'd rather use other words like OCM said though... socialist and statist work just fine. McCain, Obama, Bush... they're all statists.
McCain allows guns though. And I'm glad Pallin is part of the NRA. BUt also, Obama isn't pro-life. Abortion isn't right. It's still killing. And that's what you're doing. If you don't want a baby, don't have premature sex!stormcommander said:
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