Do you accept the dissection of animals in science?

[Tinkalila]

I get there are religious people like that, and people who are into holistic healing, we aren't on that topic though lol.

I'm talking about not going to a doctor because you don't trust them because....just because. I have yet to see a reason, therefore I find it to be irrational, as this person has already said they are being irrational, which LEADS me to say it's all talk.

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also Tinkalila, i'm sorry you had to experience insults because you stated your view, that's not how a debate should be, and i hope it didn't discourage anyone else to share your same view. i actually love seeing contrasting views, because it's a part of learning for myself, and sometimes a contrasting view can be so well put that ill reconsider.

it's ok, thank you. but yea it probably did discourage someone else and that sucks bc there is no debate if other sides are scared to talk..

 

[Zanessa]

Dissection helps so much.
Like honestly being against it means you don't want us to advance.
How else are we going to advance in the world if we're not allowed to look at the anatomy and insides of animals?

C'mon, people.

 

[Sanaki]

They're dead already so it doesn't really matter to me.

 

[Mairen]

As long as the animal is dead and not suffering through a living dissection, I have no problem with it. would I rather they be left in peace after their death? sure. but I understand the interest in learning animal biology first hand. this is some people's first step towards vet school where they will be working to save animals. you wouldn't want a vet doing an operation to save an animal's life who's never practiced on a dead specimen before. there's only so much you can learn from books and pictures.

 

[Reindeer]

Dissection helps so much.
Like honestly being against it means you don't want us to advance.
How else are we going to advance in the world if we're not allowed to look at the anatomy and insides of animals?

C'mon, people.

There's always people that oppose something that would help us though. The current movement of "vaccines cause autism pls abolish" is a prime example of it, with child deaths seeing a huge increase among the people that decide to not vaccinate their children. I'd just see it as an example of social selection, that always makes me feel better.

 

[Zanessa]

The current movement of "vaccines cause autism pls abolish" is a prime example of it, with child deaths seeing a huge increase among the people that decide to not vaccinate their children. I'd just see it as an example of social selection, that always makes me feel better.

omg don't even get me started on that it makes me so furious like ??? where did that belief even come from??

 

[Brackets]

omg don't even get me started on that it makes me so furious like ??? where did that belief even come from??

A badly-conducted research paper that blew up in the newspapers

 

[Alienfish]

There's always people that oppose something that would help us though. The current movement of "vaccines cause autism pls abolish" is a prime example of it, with child deaths seeing a huge increase among the people that decide to not vaccinate their children. I'd just see it as an example of social selection, that always makes me feel better.

Don't get me started. Those people just annoying me so much, but then again their choice. They want to get all the diseases rather than getting vaccinated...

 

[Ichigo.]

i don't see how it's "sick" or anything like that when it's for educational purposes. i mean, unless you get off on it, that's a completely different story.

we dissected cats in high schoo,l and it was interesting. they were put down humanely and were strays anyway. i learned a lot.

 

[Cuppycakez]

Well, honestly I'm ok if it's humans. There's to many sucky/jerky people out there. But for the animal part... I don't think they should be killed just because someone wants to cut them open.

I also feel mouse traps are stupid because they just want to get in a warm place with shelter. Why do we have buildings? For us to have shelter and a warm place to meet/work/live.

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As long as the animal is dead and not suffering through a living dissection, I have no problem with it. would I rather they be left in peace after their death? sure. but I understand the interest in learning animal biology first hand. this is some people's first step towards vet school where they will be working to save animals. you wouldn't want a vet doing an operation to save an animal's life who's never practiced on a dead specimen before. there's only so much you can learn from books and pictures.

But then again, this is pretty much exactly how I feel. So I'm 50/50.

 

[Nanobyte]

We do what we must
because we can

For the good
of all of us
except the ones who are dead


I really don't care much, but I'm not doing biology just 'cause it's gross.

 

[Farobi]

We're a crazy curious species and I think it's fine to an extent.

 

[Lassy]

Obviously. It helps people to learn. I dissect freaking HUMANS at university. What's your issue with it?

Same.
This is all for science.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Didn't know that first part. But somehow, that makes it all the more wrong, for me personally. I think it's just a matter of respect for the dead, plain and simple. I'm happy for you that you're pursuing a medical career and all, but I find dissection unnecessary.

"Time to do brain surgery on my first human!"
"Doctor, have you dissected anything before?"
"No, but I've read about it! Here we go!"

Do you want this doctor working on your brain?

 

[Alienfish]

"Time to do brain surgery on my first human!"
"Doctor, have you dissected anything before?"
"No, but I've read about it! Here we go!"

Do you want this doctor working on your brain?

Well, they probably do and the same thing for animal testing science; they probably want their own brains to be exposed to it.

 

[NikkiNikki]

So far this semester, for biology, I have dissected:

Clam
Earthworm
Ascaris
Crayfish
Grasshopper
Perch
Squid
Sea star
Frog

And this week I'm going to be dissecting and working with a:
Fetal Pig



Nothing I can do about it....so, just gotta live with it. Some schools have human dissections too. All animals are given an anesthetic so it's a peaceful death anyway, from what I read. The most annoying part is actually the smell of formaldehyde lol.


Animal dissection and testing has lead to so many medical and health improvements, it has a useful purpose.

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So far all of these in my Bio class we have dissected we also did the sheep brain,heart, and kidney. Yes, the smell is the worst part.

 

[Elise]

I have no problem with it being done for science but I couldn't do it myself. I hate dead things and gore so the thought of cutting up a dead animal makes me want to vomit.

Luckily I managed to avoid having to do it in school because I would have been that person that couldn't handle it and had to leave the room. I started biology the year after they did the dissection. They did show us this really gross documentary though showing graphic injuries and how they're treated and I was one of the 5 or so people that had to leave the room.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm not against dissection but I'm definitely against forcing high school students to do it when they don't want to or penalising them in any way for refusing. The only time it should be expected is in university and it should be made clear before signing up that it is a necessary part of the course. I feel that a lot of people don't understand how upsetting this kind of thing is for squeamish people.

 

[Brackets]

PETA apparently think that dissecting animals in class leads children to become desensitised to the 'sanctity of life' god they're such a joke

 

[Alienfish]

PETA apparently think that dissecting animals in class leads children to become desensitised to the 'sanctity of life' god they're such a joke

So are people taking them seriously and uses as references.

 

[Brackets]

I have no problem with it being done for science but I couldn't do it myself. I hate dead things and gore so the thought of cutting up a dead animal makes me want to vomit.

Luckily I managed to avoid having to do it in school because I would have been that person that couldn't handle it and had to leave the room. I started biology the year after they did the dissection. They did show us this really gross documentary though showing graphic injuries and how they're treated and I was one of the 5 or so people that had to leave the room.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm not against dissection but I'm definitely against forcing high school students to do it when they don't want to or penalising them in any way for refusing. The only time it should be expected is in university and it should be made clear before signing up that it is a necessary part of the course. I feel that a lot of people don't understand how upsetting this kind of thing is for squeamish people.

Do they really 'force' high school students to do it though? You just said yourself that you left the room, so surely you weren't forced. Why should people's squeamishness mean that other kids who want to do dissection can't do it in school? Get over it, other people enjoy it and it might inspire them to do something like that at university.