I feel like this is an incredibly simplistic way to view dissection. We really wouldn't be where we are medically without it.
Do you accept the dissection of animals in science?
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I feel like this is an incredibly simplistic way to view dissection. We really wouldn't be where we are medically without it.
Eh, posting a short sentence without going further in a debate thread makes it seem you need an explanation. Also you don't need to be as defensive.
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Is it any better than eating them? And some humans DO donate their bodies to be sliced up. I wouldn't mind, I'll be dead anyway.
It's not pointless. School is for learning, yes? And dissecting is for learning. Most people learn best by doing things instead of just listening or watching, so it's a good way to learn how the body works. It's one thing looking at a picture of a heart, but actually holding a heart in your hand and cutting it open to look at the different chambers is so much better
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next time u get ill, i hope u remember that the techniques used to treat u were 99% derived from the knowledge gained by dissection. what is this respect for the dead ****? the ultimate sign of respect is to use someone's body to advance the knowledge of the human race.
dude. Of course I said it simply. But with all due respect to the medical world, if it was necessary in the past, and you're saying that it helped us "be where we are now", then it should no longer be done, because it's unnecessary.
I'm way too squeamish to get involved with dissection, but I don't mind animals being dissected as long as it's for scientific research.
On the subject of human dissection, I'll be donating my body to science when I die. I want my organs to be transplanted to other people, so then my death will have meant they could survive
. I also think donating your body is a good thing because it can help people make scientific/medical breakthroughs.
On the subject of human dissection, I'll be donating my body to science when I die. I want my organs to be transplanted to other people, so then my death will have meant they could survive
. I also think donating your body is a good thing because it can help people make scientific/medical breakthroughs.so you would be fine with a new doctor operating on you although they'd never dissected anything before?
how are doctors supposed to train? read about it in a book? r u a ****ing hippie or something?
You need to crawl before you can walk, how can today's young people become doctors, biologists, and nurses today without it? It's still a very valuable to hands-on learn how the body is structured, how the organs work, and where they are in the body. It's simply not the same looking at a textbook photo.
Also, we have come far, but we still don't have a complete understanding of certain diseases, disorders, and other things that affect how the body works/grows/acts/etc. It's completely necessary.
Exactly! I know the thread topic is about animal dissection, but omg I'm so glad I get to dissect humans before I'm let loose with my scalpel on LIVING ones.. It also just helps SO much with remembering anatomy
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You wouldn't mind. But many would. And animals have no way of communicating whether or not they would be ok with that.
I never said I supported schools doing that. As someone who not only believes it's morally wrong, but also has an extreme phobia of it, schools pressure kids into participating, even if they are extremely uncomfortable. Which makes it all the more horrible.
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actually yes im very much a hippie lololol
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I wouldn't be fine on a doctor operating on me period. I don't trust doctors in the same way that I don't trust cops lmao.
Ok so that is very irrational. So you'd just let yourself die? You know doctors have had years of training right?
And animals have no way of communicating whether they would have liked to be eaten either, but people still eat them. And I'm sure most schools wouldn't pressure people into dissecting if they don't want to.
Edit: I'm NOT saying you should like dissection, but surely you can see the benefits?
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I'm not even trying to fight with you, I asked you in a respectful way to explain your view than simply saying "I don't agree," because I want to have an intellectual debate and I would love to see some views that contrast mine. If you believe two people expressing differences in a debate is considered fighting or arguing, then I think it's best you stay out of debates...
Also dissection isn't ripping a part their insides, as inappropriately described. Like I said earlier, students will get in trouble for disrespecting the animals body and do anything towards the animal that isn't part of learning. Also it isn't particularly children, it's usually college students (above 18 of years) and occasionally high school students.
Also I don't understand how it is a pointless endeavor. It's to learn the anatomy and physiology of the animal, it teaches pathology as well.
Also in case you're sensitive, I respect your views, a disagreement means I'm disrespecting you.
I know, I'm irrational, whatever. I have very alternative views. And honestly, it depends what kind of operation. Letting myself die would be something to consider in many situations.
The difference between eating and dissecting animals is something personal for me. I follow a common rule that animals should never be killed unless for nutrition or if they are in extreme pain, and if you do eat meat, you should feed 2 animals every time you eat meat. It's really all based on my personal beliefs.
Well I guess reading books are part about it.
ok guys timeout, we cant debate with crazy
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well of course, u need both theory and practical knowledge. u dont read "how to drive" and then jump into a car and go. and to the argument that we have learned all we need to from dissections before, thats patently false, there are always new thing to research. saying that is implying that we've learned everything about the human body and every disease in existence.
Actually, in my 7th grade class, we dissected animals. (I, of course, did not participate, even at that time.)
I find it pointless. All that couldn't matter less to me. I'm not trying to make an end-all decision for the world here, it just goes against my morals, and is irrelevant to me.
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uh please do not call me cr*zy, for personal reasons.
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bruh, that's the truth.
I'm just gonna leave the not trusting doctors part out of this because that baffles me.. I'm going to be a doctor soon and trust me, I don't have some secret plan to kill my patients or some bull****
I kindof get what you're getting at, but at my school our teacher just bought spare kidneys and hearts from the butchers. They probably wouldnt have been sold or eaten because theres not high demand for them in that area. Surely its better to use them for science than to just throw them in the bin?
yeah, those reasons being u actually have issues.
maybe u shud donate ur brain to science
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