Dear White People

[CassyCrossing<3]

wth, black face is hecka racist. Putting black paint on your face and pretending you are black for an 'act' is not cool. You don't see anything wrong with that? ok

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also, dressing up as an 'Indian' for Halloween is racist af too. Number 1, they are called native americans, and number 2 it's cultural appropriation !

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Also, on topic. I havent seen dear white people yet, but it sounds woke lol . My mom is white and my dad is mixed with black and white , so i'm mixed but i do white pass a lot sadly.

 

[oath2order]

also, dressing up as an 'Indian' for Halloween is racist af too. Number 1, they are called native americans, and number 2 it's cultural appropriation !

I mean people from India are called Indian.

 

[ForgottenT]

wth, black face is hecka racist. Putting black paint on your face and pretending you are black for an 'act' is not cool. You don't see anything wrong with that? ok

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also, dressing up as an 'Indian' for Halloween is racist af too. Number 1, they are called native americans, and number 2 it's cultural appropriation !

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Also, on topic. I havent seen dear white people yet, but it sounds woke lol . My mom is white and my dad is mixed with black and white , so i'm mixed but i do white pass a lot sadly.

If a kid puts feathers on their head, and an axe in hand, and that's an issue then I don't know what to tell you.
And that's exactly the kind of PC vomit that I couldn't care less about.

If a culture is so weak that petty stuff like that brings it to it's knees then maybe it's redundant.

There's real issues out there, but instead these PC warriors decide to spend their time on petty trivial stuff that does not matter at all, just to have something to complain about, often about cultures they're not even a part of, fix your own garden before snooping in your neighbours.

 

[AndroGhostX]

wth, black face is hecka racist. Putting black paint on your face and pretending you are black for an 'act' is not cool. You don't see anything wrong with that? ok

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also, dressing up as an 'Indian' for Halloween is racist af too. Number 1, they are called native americans, and number 2 it's cultural appropriation !

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Also, on topic. I havent seen dear white people yet, but it sounds woke lol . My mom is white and my dad is mixed with black and white , so i'm mixed but i do white pass a lot sadly.

Sadly?! In the current racial state of US, you're lucky to not suffer from racial discrimination just based on the color of your skin verses your genetics (unfortunately this is still the reality). If only we could rid the world of the idea of racism, superity/inferity nonsense.

And I dunno if Indian when referring to Native American is racist or not as it's just another term for it. For someone (myself) who does have Native American blood in them, I go by both, when referring to my heritage.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Can we just talk about the damn show and not about how black face is hella racist

 

[toadsworthy]

If a kid puts feathers on their head, and an axe in hand, and that's an issue then I don't know what to tell you.
And that's exactly the kind of PC vomit that I couldn't care less about.

If a culture is so weak that petty stuff like that brings it to it's knees then maybe it's redundant.

There's real issues out there, but instead these PC warriors decide to spend their time on petty trivial stuff that does not matter at all, just to have something to complain about, often about cultures they're not even a part of, fix your own garden before snooping in your neighbours.

It's about respect to that culture, and so dressing up in the very wrong stereotypes like that is disrespectful, bottom-line. The Native American culture is much more than just "feathers and an axe" and so its rude to demean them like that. I think we're in a point in time where we need to be more careful about respecting these cultures too.

And I don't know who refers to cultures as "strong" or "weak," but that sounds about as ignorant as it comes. It shouldn't matter if a cultural group is more widespread, populous, or prominent in society, you should respect that culture and its people no matter what.

And there may be "bigger issues" (which I don't know how you can judge what is important to one person or group of people) but its been the summation of little cultural appropriations like this that got us to where we are now. So if more people take little steps, like not letting their child dress up as an "Indian," they we wouldn't have so much cultural ignorance today.

I never watched Dear White People, but it sounds like part of the shake-up we need... idk what will help people see that there is so much underlying racism and no one wants to admit it, I think it is a big problem, its growing, and I think we need to address it before we can move on in other aspects of society

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The blackface for actors thing, yeah its history is racist as it was for comedic affect of African-Americans. I think it still carries connotations as being really racist, because its been an ongoing argument that African Americans don't get equality when it comes to getting acting roles. So if were still allowing people to put black make-up on their face and pretend to be African American in any sense, that's still not ok.

You can't just determine what is "racist" to someone too and make up for something, by saying "well that wasn't my intention" and we have had enough of that throughout history and its what led us to where we are today. Something that seems not hurtful, may actually be upsetting to a group of people and I don't think you are in any position to judge that for anyone. If someone can't be a comedian or come-up with a good halloween costume without it being at the expense of some other culture, then you need to re-evaluate the situation.

 

[tumut]

Well I appreciate that you like history, and that you're honest.
And you're right, different people find different things racist/offensive/bothersome, often on a scale as you mentioned.
I am indeed from a culture that have really thick skin when it comes to this stuff, and certainly don't see that kind of stuff through the same lens as many in America for example.

So I'll agree.
- Blackface almost certainly started as a way of comedy at the cost of blacks.
- Many if not most of those performances even I would agree is racist, and offensive.
- Yes you can certainly say stuff that people will take as racism intended or not, but there's the problem, different people find different things offensive, describing racism in that fashion makes the term almost meaningless because anyone can find just about anything racist, especially when you bring in different cultures, which is why I don't like describing racism as something that can be done without ill intent, to me that would just count as being offensive.
- And again yes all that stuff certainly happened.

I'll disagree.
- I don't find blackface racist because it's just makeup, not everyone puts it on to belittle black people, as I mentioned some people put it on because they genuinly like the look, and I can under no circumstance see that "act" as being racist, in my opinion, even if I find it ridiculous.

When it all comes down to it, I think we agree on mostly everything, but I see different things as racist to you, and I don't get easily bothered, by what other people say, do, or think unless it directly harms someone, and I don't consider "triggering" to be harmful, basically the petty stuff is mudding the waters of the actual importants stuff, like the police being more aggresive to black guys, to me that's an important topic of racism that have actual consequences, and needs to be dealt with, not wether Bieber is wearing a certain haircut, or some Asian, or white girl dresses up as Sombra from Overwatch.
Essentially we have put our lines in the sand at different levels, at least that's the way I see it, you can tell me if I'm wrong, but yeah I think I've said mostly everything I had to say about these few topics.

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"This show on netflix is so underrated and funny, and shows all different views on race issues."
This is the topic mate, well at least part of it, if you do not like these topics you're on the wrong thread I'm afraid.

Ok I understand you're danish and you guys do blackface as some Christmas thing and likely grew up with it but that doesn't make it ok. And whether or not your intentions are to be racist, Blackface is still racist. It's offensive as **** to pretend to be someone of another race with exaggerated features. Especially to a race that has been brought down, stereotyped, and discriminated against for ages. It's not about whether YOU think it's offensive.

But ask yourself this, do you really think any black person look at someone dressed in blackface and not raise an eyebrow or feel uncomfortable? Do you really think they would be like "oh it's cool, thy're not trying to be racist they're just dressing up".

Big hmmmmmm

The mere fact that I have to argue with someone to convince them that blackface is racist in 2018 says a lot.

 

[duckykate]

Yes really.
Black face - make-up used by a non-black performer playing a black role.
It's not inherently racist, you gotta look at each case.
Jynx from Pokemon for example, never meant to be offensive, it was a pokemon most likely inspired by Ganguro, and Ganguro isn't racist either, they like the look.
Do I think they look ridicolous? absolutely, do I think it's racist, not at all.
Would I be mad if black people dressed up as white people and did comedy skits at my expense, not really no, I'd actually like to see that lol.
In the end as I said I don't find many thing offensive, I got thick skin, and I think more people should have, life is too short to be offended every step of the way.

Sorry but what the actual ****

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"Its just makeup" im done

 

[CassyCrossing<3]

Sadly?! In the current racial state of US, you're lucky to not suffer from racial discrimination just based on the color of your skin verses your genetics (unfortunately this is still the reality). If only we could rid the world of the idea of racism, superity/inferity nonsense.

And I dunno if Indian when referring to Native American is racist or not as it's just another term for it. For someone (myself) who does have Native American blood in them, I go by both, when referring to my heritage.

'indian' is derogatory towards native americans because thats what Christopher Columbus (who didnt even discover america) called them that because he thought he was in india. Even when he knew, he still called them that.

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If a kid puts feathers on their head, and an axe in hand, and that's an issue then I don't know what to tell you.
And that's exactly the kind of PC vomit that I couldn't care less about.

If a culture is so weak that petty stuff like that brings it to it's knees then maybe it's redundant.

There's real issues out there, but instead these PC warriors decide to spend their time on petty trivial stuff that does not matter at all, just to have something to complain about, often about cultures they're not even a part of, fix your own garden before snooping in your neighbours.

If you think it's 'vomit' i don't really think it's right to be making comments to me right now. Please educate yourself before you go disrespecting CULTURE. Thank you

i can't help it you're not smart enough to respect culture.

some white people can't just understand it since they don't have much at all.

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Ok I understand you're danish and you guys do blackface as some Christmas thing and likely grew up with it but that doesn't make it ok. And whether or not your intentions are to be racist, Blackface is still racist. It's offensive as **** to pretend to be someone of another race with exaggerated features. Especially to a race that has been brought down, stereotyped, and discriminated against for ages. It's not about whether YOU think it's offensive.

But ask yourself this, do you really think any black person look at someone dressed in blackface and not raise an eyebrow or feel uncomfortable? Do you really think they would be like "oh it's cool, thy're not trying to be racist they're just dressing up".

Big hmmmmmm

The mere fact that I have to argue with someone to convince them that blackface is racist in 2018 says a lot.

facts!!

some people from other places just grow up that way and are taught that its okay to do that stuff i guess.

 

[Antonio]

I'll disagree.
- I don't find blackface racist because it's just makeup, not everyone puts it on to belittle black people, as I mentioned some people put it on because they genuinly like the look, and I can under no circumstance see that "act" as being racist, in my opinion, even if I find it ridiculous.

Just because you don't find it racist doesn't mean it isn't racist. Facts over opinions, ya know.

 

[Midoriya]

The fact of the matter is the Ancient Roman Empire, Russians, and Americans, plus other nations in the past, KILLED a lot of races off in the past, as in pretty much exterminated them, so acting like you’re okay because you respect those lost cultures now doesn’t make up for the sins of those nations in the past. Being their descendants, we are still at fault.

 

[mitfy]

i haven't seen it. my cousin is in an episode though lol

 

[kiwi-strawberry]

ohh boy, i thought this'd happen. stuff is really going down now,, yeesh
like can't we just talk about the show, please? this is supposed to be a nice, friendly site to discuss animal crossing and such, and it makes me kinda sad to see such a discord occurring. yes, racism is most definitely a problem, but is this really the right place to talk about it?

 

[duckykate]

theres nothing wrong with discussing other things on a primarily video game based forum which is why brewsters exists in the first place. also when an idiot person says something super wrong and offensive its important to talk to them about it because this is such a large diverse community and it would be a shame to have racists in it