corrupt government

[//RUN.exe]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepisn't it odd that we've had to drag the south kicking and screaming into the future?

women voting, black rights, ending child labor, etc

Equal rights is good progress. But big government control is the opposite of progress. Most "progressives" I know are for government control (or the economy, people's lives, etc). Government control 1) does not work 2) is violent and immoral.

oh, no, i'm not trying to say anything like that, but just in general the south has been pretty unwilling to move forward with the rest of us

What is moving forward exactly though?

I live in the north east. We have "moved forward" right off a cliff. High taxation and big spending hurts the economy. I don't consider Obama's health care to be progress at all. For one, it will not work and we cannot afford it. Secondly, I believe forcing people to buy a good is immoral.

dubble toast

no, the health care bill isn't exactly the best thing since sliced bread and it's certainly not the time for it, and the opposition to it is warranted. i'm not just talking about the health care bill, though.

so you're against car insurance, too?

 

[Carlist Fern]

Speaking of the North and South I do kinda not like the styles of the North.

I much prefer old times, with respect and obedience. Close ties with family and Sunday dinners.

Before porn, premarital sex, drugs, disrespect.

Blech I honestly hate present age.

\rant

Yes, the olden times, when women were chattel and people died in their 30s. Back to traditionalist values such as faith, superstition, and oppression. Sounds tight.

You people don't get my definition of the golden ages.

Probably an age that never existed.

(un)

Do you mean like... the 1950s?

 

[Tyeforce]

freedom. It's a part of human nature and/or granted to us from God.

ok well go live in russia and tell me how free you are there go anywhere else and tell me that you are free, America stands for freedom and it is our job to protect our freedom just as we have done before but the people of this day America are LAZY and want the govt to do everything for them and dont want to serve the country because its "not their job" i do beleive in God, and i do beleive he has given us the power to freedom which has protected us but it people start slacking we will loose our freedoms and we will loose our 3 rights......and just to give my view on the homosexuality issue..i beleive that if they are in the army the should keep quiet and not flaunt the fact they are gay, even in society, i meen i dont run around saying im straight, i meen being gay has never and wont ever be fully excepted, and the whole "ow its the way gad made me" yea pretty sure not because it even says in the bible and i no it does cause i looked it up, that homosexuality is a sin, so pretty sure god didnt make you gay that is your own choise...thats just my look on it

So many things wrong with this that I'm not even gonna bother. >_>

 

[Carlist Fern]

freedom. It's a part of human nature and/or granted to us from God.

ok well go live in russia and tell me how free you are there go anywhere else and tell me that you are free, America stands for freedom and it is our job to protect our freedom just as we have done before but the people of this day America are LAZY and want the govt to do everything for them and dont want to serve the country because its "not their job" i do beleive in God, and i do beleive he has given us the power to freedom which has protected us but it people start slacking we will loose our freedoms and we will loose our 3 rights......and just to give my view on the homosexuality issue..i beleive that if they are in the army the should keep quiet and not flaunt the fact they are gay, even in society, i meen i dont run around saying im straight, i meen being gay has never and wont ever be fully excepted, and the whole "ow its the way gad made me" yea pretty sure not because it even says in the bible and i no it does cause i looked it up, that homosexuality is a sin, so pretty sure god didnt make you gay that is your own choise...thats just my look on it

So many things wrong with this that I'm not even gonna bother. >_>

I know, right. It's just mind-boggling.

 

[Sheldon]

But that's when I'll move out of the country! =P

wow.. you wont even serve your country, the country that give you your freedom..

No, I don't want to die young in a war. Is there a problem with that?

War is the most illogical idea ever. "If I kill millions of people, maybe I can have some oil"

well it is your duty to your county you shelfish little brat, and yea war for oil is stupid...we have the biggest supply in the world and have only tapped into like maybe a quarter of it...green energy waht a joke ad long as i have oil through my life im fine with it besides we have enough oil to last thousands more years, but we really should just wipe that 3rd world out of existance..except isereal even though obama completly offened them, but they are the only ones that dont hate us

 

[Jeremy]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

The first one, saying anarchy is complete disorder is what the people who don't know what they are talking about say, like the media.

I don't agree with anarchy, but I consider myself to be a voluntaryist, as do many anarcho-capitalists. You should read books by Murray Rothbard if you are interested in this. Or maybe you already know who he is...

I don't.

And have you seen Capitalism: A Love Story? If not, I suggest you do, some of it is sickening about what happens in this country.

No, that is the bad kind of anarchism. Capitalism is freedom. Individuals freely trade without a third party (government) using violence and stealing a portion of the exchanged goods/money. Anarcho-capitalism is where there is no government sealing from people. Corporatism is NOT capitalism. Michael Moore made this big mistake... actually he admitted to this mistake after the movie came out. Corporatism is what we have today, not capitalism. (Corporatism is called Fascism by some)

edit: So yeah, unless you dislike reading, you might want to check out Murray Rothbard.

 

[Numner]

Speaking of the North and South I do kinda not like the styles of the North.

I much prefer old times, with respect and obedience. Close ties with family and Sunday dinners.

Before porn, premarital sex, drugs, disrespect.

Blech I honestly hate present age.

\rant

Yes, the olden times, when women were chattel and people died in their 30s. Back to traditionalist values such as faith, superstition, and oppression. Sounds tight.

You people don't get my definition of the golden ages.

Probably an age that never existed.

(un)

Do you mean like... the 1950s?

The age of my father and mother, yes.

But I don't know too much about it.

I suck at history :V

 

[Tyeforce]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

No, I don't want to die young in a war. Is there a problem with that?

War is the most illogical idea ever. "If I kill millions of people, maybe I can have some oil"

well it is your duty to your county you shelfish little brat, and yea war for oil is stupid...we have the biggest supply in the world and have only tapped into like maybe a quarter of it...green energy waht a joke ad long as i have oil through my life im fine with it besides we have enough oil to last thousands more years, but we really should just wipe that 3rd world out of existance..except isereal even though obama completly offened them, but they are the only ones that dont hate us

Wow. Just, wow.

 

[//RUN.exe]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deepisn't it odd that we've had to drag the south kicking and screaming into the future?

women voting, black rights, ending child labor, etc

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Every state has its reluctant point. We're not the only state that's fighting against some of this stuff too. You're just singling out Texas because I mentioned it.

i'm not singling out texas or florida

once again, reading comprehension, k n thx

Okay, the south. So you're generalizing then.

pretty much, yeah.

 

[«Jack»]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

No, I don't want to die young in a war. Is there a problem with that?

War is the most illogical idea ever. "If I kill millions of people, maybe I can have some oil"

well it is your duty to your county you shelfish little brat, and yea war for oil is stupid...we have the biggest supply in the world and have only tapped into like maybe a quarter of it...green energy waht a joke ad long as i have oil through my life im fine with it besides we have enough oil to last thousands more years, but we really should just wipe that 3rd world out of existance..except isereal even though obama completly offened them, but they are the only ones that dont hate us

Tye's a clam?

HEIL SPELCHEK.

 

[Jeremy]

Sheldon, don't insult others. And no one has a duty to their government.

 

[Numner]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

No, I don't want to die young in a war. Is there a problem with that?

War is the most illogical idea ever. "If I kill millions of people, maybe I can have some oil"

well it is your duty to your county you shelfish little brat, and yea war for oil is stupid...we have the biggest supply in the world and have only tapped into like maybe a quarter of it...green energy waht a joke ad long as i have oil through my life im fine with it besides we have enough oil to last thousands more years, but we really should just wipe that 3rd world out of existance..except isereal even though obama completly offened them, but they are the only ones that dont hate us

Can you insult someone without sounding ignorant, please?

 

[Jeremy]

There's a rule against insults, not against sounding ignorant!

 

[Numner]

There's a rule against insults, not against sounding ignorant!

Well Run can do it slightly respectably

Mostly

 

[//RUN.exe]

There's a rule against insults, not against sounding ignorant!

Well Run can do it slightly respectably

Mostly

:3

 

[Carlist Fern]

Sheldon, don't insult others. And no one has a duty to their government.

I think it's wrong to put your moderation statement "Sheldon, don't insult others." next to "And no one has a duty to their government.", which is a point up for debate. Just saying, it's inappropriate.

 

[Bacon Boy]

Sheldon, if you're going to try to pose a liable argument, do it without insulting others and make it sound intelligent by using correct grammar and spelling, otherwise it makes you look like a drunk fool.

 

[Pear]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

No, I don't want to die young in a war. Is there a problem with that?

War is the most illogical idea ever. "If I kill millions of people, maybe I can have some oil"

well it is your duty to your county you shelfish little brat, and yea war for oil is stupid...we have the biggest supply in the world and have only tapped into like maybe a quarter of it...green energy waht a joke ad long as i have oil through my life im fine with it besides we have enough oil to last thousands more years, but we really should just wipe that 3rd world out of existance..except isereal even though obama completly offened them, but they are the only ones that dont hate us

Oh dear lord, so many thing wrong I don't even know where to begin,
1. Green energy isn't a joke. You sound selfish if you want to leave our planet in a load of crap for the future generation, and besides that, we don't have enough fuel for thousands of years. Experts say we have 50, at most.
2. Learn about something outside your *censored.3.0*ing borders for once. Don't believe the *censored.2.0* Fox tells you. Does the mid east dislike us? Yes, and rightfully so. Does that mean they hate all Americans? Hell no. My family in Iraq wants me to visit there, and my American citizen dad visits often. People like Americans, but not the corrupt Bush presidency.
3. Israel, lol. Wut a joke. HAY GUIZZ LETS ALL SUPPORTT TEESE PEEPUL UNCONDITIONALLY CUZ THERE GOOD AND STUFFS.

And seriously, what were you going on before with Montana? 0__0

 

[The Sign Painter]

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep

I don't agree with anarchy, but I consider myself to be a voluntaryist, as do many anarcho-capitalists. You should read books by Murray Rothbard if you are interested in this. Or maybe you already know who he is...

I don't.

And have you seen Capitalism: A Love Story? If not, I suggest you do, some of it is sickening about what happens in this country.

No, that is the bad kind of anarchism. Capitalism is freedom. Individuals freely trade without a third party (government) using violence and stealing a portion of the exchanged goods/money. Anarcho-capitalism is where there is no government sealing from people. Corporatism is NOT capitalism. Michael Moore made this big mistake... actually he admitted to this mistake after the movie came out. Corporatism is what we have today, not capitalism. (Corporatism is called Fascism by some)

edit: So yeah, unless you dislike reading, you might want to check out Murray Rothbard.

They were getting money for people's deaths, and capitalism could work, just greedy people ruined it.

 

[Numner]

;v this topic turned out great.