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In case you didn't know, Catalonia declared independence from Spain today. I wonder if any countries will be recognizing them.

I honestly think that Spain shouldn't even exist. I also think that calling Spanish Castillian is much more accurate.
 
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Same. I know Somaliland recognized Liberland recently, and Scotland apparently issued a message of support to Catalonia, but didn't fully recognize them
 
pretty sure no major country will be recognizing Catalonia as a separate country, unless Spain agrees to the split at some point down the road...

btw I don't know much about it, but isn't Catalan simply a dialect of the Spanish language? is there any actual ethnic or cultural distinction between Catalonia and Spain, other than language?
 
The people's choice is the people's choice. I didn't agree with Brexit, but if people want it, they should be able to have it. Let them be independent.
 
pretty sure no major country will be recognizing Catalonia as a separate country, unless Spain agrees to the split at some point down the road...

btw I don't know much about it, but isn't Catalan simply a dialect of the Spanish language? is there any actual ethnic or cultural distinction between Catalonia and Spain, other than language?

It's more closer to French than Spanish to be honest and from what I've seen (also the official language of Andorra that is squeezed between those countries) and yeah they have some cultural stuff as well...
 
btw I don't know much about it, but isn't Catalan simply a dialect of the Spanish language? is there any actual ethnic or cultural distinction between Catalonia and Spain, other than language?

What is now Spain used to consist of many autonomous regions. Catalonia was a county (ruled by a count), but eventually merged into the Kingdom of Aragon. While a part of Spain, it’s own customs and dialect remained, though they were violently repressed and banned after the Spanish Civil War

(Anyone with more/better knowledge is welcome to correct me - this is all that remains from my history classes and limited reading of Spanish literature)
 
It's more closer to French than Spanish to be honest and from what I've seen (also the official language of Andorra that is squeezed between those countries) and yeah they have some cultural stuff as well...

I was just going to say this. Catalan is a Romance language like Spanish and French, but it's in the same group of Romance languages as French but not Spanish. I honestly think it makes more sense for them to be part of France than Spain (they have been before).

Theres other regions in Spain that want to become independent, I think they will become more serious about it now since Catalonia has declared independence, maybe in the future other regions will declare independence like Galicia and Basque. The Basque language is like the only native Iberian language left, so it doesn't make sense for them to be part of any other country. The Galician language is also closer to Portuguese than Spanish, in fact Galician and Portuguese were once the same language, so I think it also makes more sense for Galicia to be part of Portugal than Spain.

Something I found out yesterday was that Portugal once considered Spain uncivilized and since it was the only country that bordered them (if you didn't count their colonies, and Spain is still the only country that borders Portugal), Portugal said that Spain isolated it from the rest of civilized Europe.

Catalonia has actually banned bull fighting, which makes it obvious it's not like Spain. Spain is technically just Castille and Castillians controlling other people groups like the Galicians, Catalans, Leonese, Basque, Asturians, and probably some other ones. The name Spain comes from the word Hispania which Romans and people who spoke Latin used to say the Iberian Peninsula. So obviously the name comes from them wanting to control the entire Iberian Peninsula (which includes Portugal). I think Portugal was once called Galicia (which I think is Galiza in Portuguese).
 
I know that most industrialized nations don't plan on recognizing Catalonia. My mom compares the situation to how the South in the United States seceded in the 19th century, but there's one fundamental thing that makes Spain different from the US-you put your state before your country in Spain, which is the opposite of the US. This is a big reason as to why Spain isn't well unified.
Of course, Francisco Franco's rule didn't help. Up until his death in 1975, it was illegal to speak Catalan.
 
I know that most industrialized nations don't plan on recognizing Catalonia. My mom compares the situation to how the South in the United States seceded in the 19th century, but there's one fundamental thing that makes Spain different from the US-you put your state before your country in Spain, which is the opposite of the US. This is a big reason as to why Spain isn't well unified.
Of course, Francisco Franco's rule didn't help. Up until his death in 1975, it was illegal to speak Catalan.

It was also illegal to speak Basque.
 
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