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Breaking: Obama calls for community service draft

solsticeviolet said:
I don't see anything wrong with requiring 100 hours of community service *in an academic year*. If you get $4,000 + off state tuition, and a scholarship? I don't get why people are against this. I am a self-supported undergraduate student with a metric TON of student loan debt. I *wish* this plan had been in place when I first started college because I wouldn't be carrying this debt that will take a large portion of my life to pay off. It's far better than the ten year struggle I've had to get this far through undergrad because I am single with no family financial contribution.

Who is going to pay for college if we don't earn it? If people don't want their taxes raised, then there has to be a way to pay for it. Even if it's volunteer labor. If you want to go to school enough, you will do it. I'll be first in line.
Originally the site said it was going to be required and offered no incentive, that was the problem. Sounded more like he wanted to force community service before. It is much better on the site now.
 
Originally the site said it was going to be required and offered no incentive, that was the problem. Sounded more like he wanted to force community service before. It is much better on the site now.
I didn't realize you guys saw a different version of the site - I am sure the Change.gov site will be evolving all the time as things get ironed out over the next several months. But honestly - Obama isn't going to force volunteer work on people; "forced volunteering" is oxymoronic, isn't it? Volunteer work is a huge part of how he has become the president-elect - it's going to be an over-arching theme of his administration. Nothing is free - if you need the government to take care of you, you have to give back. Other countries use heavier taxes to fund programs. Obama is going to tax the very rich and try to instill an even greater work ethic in our young people. The time of self-entitlement is over. It gets us nowhere, as a country.

As for all of this being an attack on small government - I don't agree. I honestly believe that this is about doing what is best for the people of this country by helping us get the resources we need. Local governments don't always have the money, either. I would hope that local bureaucracy would not feel threatened by the introduction of federal programs to help the majority of Americans.

/soapbox
 
I see nothing wrong with it. It's something good that we should've been doing all along. Everyone should help the community!
 
i cant even count how much community service i did in high school... and i know people who did a lot more.

storm, you look at it as slavery. i look at it as instead of wasting time sitting at home doing nothing going out and making a positive difference on your community and on the world.
 
I'm glad to see they changed the site... it wouldn't be too huge of a deal if it was required, but 100 hours is a lot, all things considered...

On an unrelated note, I am SO tired of having arguments with my Republican relatives. God... they need to stop watching Hannity and Colmes and get their news from unbiased sources... also, for the last time, Obama's not a communist!

Just needed to get that out of my system... hehe.
 
I just want everyone to stop *CEN-4.01-SORD*ing about Obama.
He's going to be our president. Americans rally behind there president. We're a country, damnit.
 
Just because he said something doesn't mean it will go into law. It would have to be approved by Congress, and the Senate, and if it's going to radify the United States Constitution I'm pretty sure it has to be voted on by the American People.
 
dragonflamez said:
I just want everyone to stop *CEN-4.01-SORD*ing about Obama.
He's going to be our president. Americans rally behind there president. We're a country, damnit.
Well as much as I agree with you on some things, like you said, this IS America. So, they have the right to say/talk about whatever they want. No matter how stupid, and wrong it is. ;)
 
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Well now I'm definitely glad I didn't vote for Obama. This is BS.

I now officially hate both major parties.
 
Well my vote would have been for McCain. Even if he was old. ;o

Plus aside being a total dumbash, Sarah's pretty hawt.
 
stormcommander said:
Probably, but don't just think about it as being an inconvenience. Look at it from the philosophical point of view and you will come to the scary conclusion that it is slavery under the state. Freedom is nothing in this country anymore. Anyone who calls America The Land of the Free is a liar. The government OWNS you.

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Hell, the government can at any time, "necessary", take your house with all your posessions. Our "freedom" is slowly being chipped at.
 
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THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T VOTE FOR MCCAIN WAS BECAUSE OF PALIN!!

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Ok, this is kinda really dumb. I really dont think this will pass, but it shows us what our next president will be like. He aint my dad, he cant tell me what community service I have to do. And if everyone is required to do this, how will we punish people who break the law?


Also, Sarah Palin is great, and I bet she's smarter than alot of people here
 
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