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[Hesper]

I feel like this is really a semantic argument, then: what's a "tip", and what's actually an entry fee disguised as requesting tips. Tips, ideally, outside of the Bad Situation I and others have described re: making an actual living, are supposed to be a bonus (e.g. my next workplace after that one, where we made a base wage above minimum wage and tips were a bonus on top shared across a shift). Anything "required" is not a tip, even if they call it one. That's just a fee.

People misuse words, especially to deceive. "Tip" sounds nicer than "entry fee", so they use it to make it more enticing to pay. You're feeling pressured by the situations you've described because you detect this deception and know you're being charged a fee; meanwhile, those of us here who use "tip" as intended are reading it that way and reacting as if that were the thing described.

 

[astoria]

I have no idea how this annoys you like at all - Because if you feel like you HAVE to give the person a tip, but you don't actually cause they said they were appreciated but obvs not required and...well not giving a tip is kind of rude but like you don't have to leave a huge tip LOL

see this is what I’m talking about, you just said that not giving a tip is rude lol

and I have hosted selling turnips on discord once but I didn’t have to deal with a bunch of people because I put the turnip exchange and set the queue to 10 people so it wasnt a hassle for me. My island isn’t complete so I don’t open my gates for strangers right now

 

[Sudsofsplash]

actually this is SUPER important. I used to think people who required fees for visiting their neighbors or whatever were absolutely crazy, like I even talked to a friend about how wild it was that people wanted others to pay to talk to a villager who was giving out DIYs.

but then I started hosting and holy crap, it. is. stressful. having to sit through endless cutscenes, giving out codes, keeping track of who's already visited and who needs to come next, showing people where to go... and I haven't even hosted turnips yet (because I never get good prices lol rip), I can't imagine what that is like.

needless to say, I totally understand why people charge fees now lol. I try not to (unless I have a specific goal in mind and need bells/NMT for it), but honestly if you're gonna make someone sit through cutscene after cutscene of people flying in, I think you should try to make it worth it for them (if you can afford it!).

Exactly! Like if a tip is required, that's not a tip, that's an entry fee LOL But like I respect hosts after hosted myself...They go through a lot, especially if they have stuff on the ground! Gotta keep eyes on people O.O

 

[Mello]

Do I feel pressured to tip? No... I can't say I do.

On another note, what annoys me is when people tip me and I specifically tell them I don't want anything. I think it's kind that they're so insistent on tipping, but I'm offering a charity service, so if you tip me, I feel as though it becomes a paid service, which I didn't want to do.
However, if I don't accept the tip, I'm being rude. What to do, what to do...

 

[astoria]

Not outraged, just attempting to clarify/ defend saying "tips aren't necessary but are appreciated." In no way am I taking issue with you as a person, I just disagree.
Edit: and I apologize if the off-topic thing came off ash harsh/accusatory. That was not my intention.

It was not your post just many people saying “I don’t understand how you can get mad over someone asking for tips??” Or saying I have a personal problem with feeling guilty or pressure, because I’m sure some people have experienced that but it doesn’t make them weird. We just want to try to please others or not make them upset.

 

[UglyMonsterFace]

I feel bad not tipping, and that's not because of them. It's because I feel it's the right thing to do in exchange for their effort and time. But those hosts are so kind and none have ever made me feel bad for not tipping, which has happened twice now. There was once I forgot to go to my ABD and bring bells and by the time I finished buying what I wanted at Ables, I had 1000 bells left and I felt like that would be worse than no tip, just like tipping a few cents to a server instead of just nothing. I felt bad about that not because they made me feel bad but I felt upset at myself for not realizing I didn't have enough money to tip. Then another time when the host was afk and this other person was stealing their tips. I chose not to leave a tip because it would have been stolen. I stayed as long as I could waiting for the host to come back but they didn't and I had to leave..

In my opinion, people who ask for a tip but say it isn't necessary are the angels of this community. I am more than happy to tip them for their time and them saying it in their threads do not make me feel bad. I actually only go to towns that say tip is optional because I'm happier to pay them vs someone asking people to pay a hefty amount to get in. It's just good manners I believe, and they have a right to say they appreciate tips, cuz who doesn't? But people who say that aren't guilting you. But I'm sure that receiving tips is a nice incentive to keep hosting. And they deserve every bit of it for what they do for us.

 

[Sudsofsplash]

see this is what I’m talking about, you just said that not giving a tip is rude lol

and I have hosted selling turnips on discord once but I didn’t have to deal with a bunch of people because I put the turnip exchange and set the queue to 10 people so it wasnt a hassle for me. My island isn’t complete so I don’t open my gates for strangers right now

"Kind of rude" Is not the same as rude. LOL It's more of a "Okay whatever dude".

 

[Romaki]

Like a topic called “does anyone like the gorilla villagers” and the majority or the posts were saying “no” like they made that thread to find out who liked gorilla villagers not just to hear people say the opposite.

That's not really how a forum works though. People want to share their viewpoints, especially if it goes against the premise of the thread. You need to be direct if you're just looking to vent and want to find people who agree with you. I feel like this is more of a cultural issue, as already mentioned. Some countries don't do tipping at all, while for others it's expected to be part of the bill.

I do agree a little bit with your viewpoint though, people should be tipping automatically to show their appreciation. It is kinda awkward to constantly mention it in every thread, but I feel like the people who are doing it just want to mention it for people who don't think of tips at all.

 

[Reploid]

Tips appreciated but not required is what I always say. I also always say to tip what you can, and if you can't afford it, then don't feel like you have to tip.
I understand feeling annoyed when people say stuff like for turnips "Give me 50% of your turnip money as a tip" but like GUESS WHAT!!! You don't have to go to those people!! There's loads of people who don't ask for entry fees or high end tips!
I have no idea how this annoys you like at all - Because if you feel like you HAVE to give the person a tip, but you don't actually cause they said they were appreciated but obvs not required and...well not giving a tip is kind of rude but like you don't have to leave a huge tip LOL

By saying it’s kind of rude not to tip, you’re making the opposite point.

 

[Megaroni]

It’s like being at a restaurant, tipping isn’t mandatory but everyone does it so you don’t feel like a jerk. By someone mentioning tips it makes some people feel obligated to do something and overthink.

I feel like at that point, telling others that it's THEIR fault that YOU'RE overthinking is a little harsh. If you're anxious and overthinking then it's not the host's fault, it's your lack of coping skills. This probably sounded harsh, and I completely accept an equally harsh response in return, but it bothers me when others blame people for their reactions.

 

[Sudsofsplash]

Do I feel pressured to tip? No... I can't say I do.

On another note, what annoys me is when people tip me and I specifically tell them I don't want anything. I think it's kind that they're so insistent on tipping, but I'm offering a charity service, so if you tip me, I feel as though it becomes a paid service, which I didn't want to do.
However, if I don't accept the tip, I'm being rude. What to do, what to do...

;0; I'm the type of person now I feel bad LOLOL I just feel like I'm taking people's time for free and think they deserve something for their time!

 

[Hesper]

I also have yet to see how else I can express gratitude re: tips, when I'm inside a house and don't see them being left, and a visitor doesn't mention that they did anything. :'D Which has happened while I was hosting crafting for a shell arch. The real MVPs, but I want them to know it's appreciated, but sometimes people don't actually show their villager name on their profile and I can't hunt them down, and if they didn't say anything maybe they don't want me to anyway...

It's just so much easier to say they're appreciated as an umbrella thing.

 

[vndrll]

Are you serious? I’m not even doing it to make anyone look bad and I don’t see how changing the title makes the posts off topic??? My OP is the same. I changed it so people can easily see what point I was trying to make and for people to stop being hostile because I put the word “annoyed”

Why are you even complaining, people are just being friendly. If you’re feeling pressured into leaving tips, leave tips. No one’s manipulating you, there’s no need to feel so paranoid about it.

 

[Sudsofsplash]

By saying it’s kind of rude not to tip, you’re making the opposite point.

Kind of rude is not the same as rude I already said this. I said its more of a "Okay whatever dude"
Please read my other post and sorry that my phrasing is confusing for some, but I already cleared this up.

 

[Reploid]

Kind of rude is not the same as rude I already said this. I said its more of a "Okay whatever dude"
Please read my other post and sorry that my phrasing is confusing for some, but I already cleared this up.

It’s just weird phrasing on your part, because being “kind of” anything means you’re still kind of being that thing, just to a lesser extent.

 

[necromaxxer]

it's called a "tip" for a reason, especially when it's not mandatory. if you don't want to leave a tip, don't leave a tip. if you want to leave a tip, leave a tip. i don't see the issue

 

[Megaroni]

Why are you even complaining, people are just being friendly. If you’re feeling pressured into leaving tips, leave tips. No one’s manipulating you, there’s no need to feel so paranoid about it.

I feel like at this point OP was looking for sympathy/agreement by making this thread, and when they didn't get it they got confused and tried to defend themselves even more.

 

[astoria]

I feel like at that point, telling others that it's THEIR fault that YOU'RE overthinking is a little harsh. If you're anxious and overthinking then it's not the host's fault, it's your lack of coping skills. This probably sounded harsh, and I completely accept an equally harsh response in return, but it bothers me when others blame people for their reactions.

ok

I understand why this is being said to me because my OP was hostile and if I put it in a “nicer” way then people wouldn’t be like this.

 

[Sudsofsplash]

Here is the part of my comment that everyone seems to be ignoring and focusing on the part where I said "Kind of rude not to tip".

It's nice to get tips, but I never think people who don't leave tips are the absolute worst, unless they were rude LOL
I've hosted and co-hosted turnip spikes and I never asked for tips, I always say "tips appreciated but not required" because while it's nice to give tips, you don't need to, especially if you can't afford to! I actually had to tell people to stop tipping because they were giving WAY too much!!! Like I don't mind people taking 10 trips, but like tipping once is enough for me! You don't need to give 99k every single time lolol

So read my whole post before you're like "AAAAHHH YOU SAID ITS RUDE NOT TO TIP YOU ARE A BAD PERSON"

 

[coffee biscuit]

You shouldn't feel pressured to give tips but it is the nice thing to do. I never feel pressured to tip because I always try to tip anyways, even when people don't ask.
I do get kinda annoyed when people ask for tips like very certain furniture items only. Like, any kind of tip should be fine as long as it's a tip? I don't wanna bring someone a rare Saharah item just to see Celeste when I could drop a NMT instead, which are easier for me to access. Just my thoughts.