Zelda Timeline

Waitwaitwait. You're back? o:

Secondly, I don't see much of point to making a timeline for the Zelda games since someone will come out of no where to bash you for it other than the fact that MM comes sometime after OoT and so does WW followed by its sequels. And then there's the whole speculation that MM was the first game in the series.
 
Tom said:
Waitwaitwait. You're back? o:

Secondly, I don't see much of point to making a timeline for the Zelda games since someone will come out of no where to bash you for it other than the fact that MM comes sometime after OoT and so does WW followed by its sequels. And then there's the whole speculation that MM was the first game in the series.
I guess so. http://forums.the-bell-tree.com?topic=7289193

But it's fun! XD And who thinks MM is the first game in the series? That makes no sense at all. o_O
 
I'm sorry, but I think this time-line is rubbish. Everyone says Zelda 1 comes after Wind Waker because in Zelda 1, Hyrule has been drained of most of it's water, according to the fans. That makes sense, no proof, but enough sense nevertheless. Yet you put Link's awakening AFTER Zelda 1, I think it should go before Zelda 1 but after the Wind Waker series, since
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I don't think there is a time line really. I think with the exceptions of games like OoT/MM and Wind Waker and its sequels, where they are obviously linked together, each game is supposed to be its own separate story.

I think it's pretty obvious Nintendo makes up the stories as they go along, I think each game is supposed to be look at individually instead of as a whole, if there is an actual timeline, it could literally be in any order of each other.
 
Jarv156 said:
I'm sorry, but I think this time-line is rubbish. Everyone says Zelda 1 comes after Wind Waker because in Zelda 1, Hyrule has been drained of most of it's water, according to the fans. That makes sense, no proof, but enough sense nevertheless. Yet you put ]I based the placement of the 2D games on Spirit Tracks, because it was revealed that Link and Tetra from TWW/PH found a new land on the Great Sea and called it Hyrule. So there is a NEW Hyrule, different from the original seen in OoT. And Link's Awakening is a direct sequel to ALttP, not TWW.

Crashman said:
I don't think there is a time line really. I think with the exceptions of games like OoT/MM and Wind Waker and its sequels, where they are obviously ]
pear40 said:
Personally, I don't think there's a timeline.

Eiji Aonuma said that he has the official timeline on his computer. They DO follow a timeline. And the developers have said that they want to emphasize the timeline more in future games, and they already have tied a lot of things together with Twilight Princess. Hopefully Spirit Tracks will be the same. It's already looking like it's going to reveal A LOT.

Bacon Boy said:
The only SET time line is: OoT - MM (since MM is a direct sequel) Then Wind Waker.
No, there's more. The following has been confirmed in the timeline:

....../-TWW/PH - ST
OoT
......\MM - TP

And these are the known sequels:

ALttP/LA, OoS/OoA (either order works), LoZ/AoL, and TMC - FS - FSA.

So all you really have to do is put them together. With the New Hyrule in Spirit Tracks, my timeline makes a lot of sense.
 
This timeline doesn't make alot of sense, at all, the geography of Spirit Tracks is nothing like Hyrule in the 2D games, the only game that could work on the adult timeline is LoZ/AoL, while the other games can only fit on the child timeline, because the geography of LoZ is unlike any of the other Zelda games, while ALTTP and so forth, have geography similar to that of OOT and TP, so it can't work on the adult timeline, as it can't work for the New Hyrule, and it can't work for the Old Hyrule, in the japanese version of Wind Waker, the King doesn't seal away Hyrule in the end, he erases everything.
There is also the fact that in FSA, the Gerudo and Ganondorf exist, there is also Kakariko Village and other major Hyrule villages, WW Link, the founder of new Hyrule, would have no idea of these places, so why would he name villages in new Hyrule after them? This timeline doesn't have alot of sense behind it, a more accurate timeline would be this:
...............-WW/PH--ST
MC--OOT
...............\MM--TP--FS/FSA--ALTTP/OOX/LA--LoZ/AoL

It is my belief the reason Kotake and Koume couldn't revive Ganon in OOX correctly is not because they sacrificed themselves, but rather because Ganon was not dead, there is also the fact that Kotake and Koume are DEAD on the Adult Timeline, so this doesn't make alot of sense at all.
You probably think nothing goes after TP is because Ganondorf "died" in that game, when in actuallity, all he did was lose the Triforce of Power, how could a dead man stand there like that, use your head, there is also the fact that he has survived things before, in ALTTP, he looked like he exploded, when really he just disappeared, and stayed in the Dark World, until he broke out in LoZ, as confirmed by one of the re-releases of LoZ where it states "Ganon has broken free from the Dark World and yadadada", Ganon has only ever confirmed to die in LoZ, he became a pile of ash. After TP, Ganondorf wanted more power after losing his Triforce, so he went to seek out the Trident of Power in FSA, which turns him into the pig Ganon we see in the 2D games, he is then sealed into the Four Sword until ALTTP, as seen in the Temple of the Four Sword in the GBA version, when he broke the Four Sword in half, releasing himself, and then going to get the Triforce again.
As for Zelda Wii, I personally believe it will be a sequal to MM and a prequal to TP, based on the artwork, the Link in Zelda Wii resembles that of OOT Link as an Adult, with the art style of TP, Zelda Wii is confirmed to be in a different era than TP.
Before making a timeline you should put more thought into putting them together, have you even played every single game all the way through? Have you even heard all of the Miyamoto and Aonuma interviews?
Good day sir.
Also, this should be locked for lack of factual information and sources.

Minish Cap so far in the timeline? LoZ BEFORE ALTTP? FS Not on the timeline? What a pathetic excuse for a timeline, if your thinking of the Miyamoto order, that doesn't mean alot considering Miyamoto doesn't know alot about the timeline, and there is also the fact that that was then, this is now, and things can change over a period of time.

EDIT: I'm flaming your timeline not you.
 
Megamannt125 said:
This timeline doesn't make alot of sense, at all, the geography of Spirit Tracks is nothing like Hyrule in the 2D games, the only game that could work on the adult timeline is LoZ/AoL, while the other games can only fit on the child timeline, because the geography of LoZ is unlike any of the other Zelda games, while ALTTP and so forth, have geography similar to that of OOT and TP, so it can't work on the adult timeline, as it can't work for the New Hyrule, and it can't work for the Old Hyrule, in the japanese version of Wind Waker, the King doesn't seal away Hyrule in the end, he erases everything.
There is also the fact that in FSA, the Gerudo and Ganondorf exist, there is also Kakariko Village and other major Hyrule villages, WW ]First of all, you don't even know what the geography of Spirit Tracks looks like yet. No one does. We've just seen small parts of it here and there. Until we see a full map of the new Hyrule, we can't really say anything for sure. And geography isn't as important as storyline, anyway. But you do bring up a good point about the Gerudo. I didn't think of that. I think I might change my timeline a bit now, but I still don't agree with yours. For one, I don't believe TMC is the first in the timeline. It just doesn't fit there. The are a number of reasons why, including the presence of New Hylian. If it went before OoT, it would have Old Hylian, not the New Hylian of the Wind Waker. Plus, it has many references to the Oracle games, which is why I put them before it. And before you argue about the whole "Link gets his signature green hat in that game, so it must go first" deal, that in no way proves that it's the first game in the timeline. Other Zelda games have had similar reasons behind the green tunic and hat. That was just TMC's version.

As for Ganondorf, there have to be at least two different incarnations, because the Ganondorf from FSA is completely different from the OoT Ganondorf.

And about Zelda Wii's placement... Basing a game's placement based on the artwork used is just foolish. Link looks exactly the same in FS, TWW, FSA, TMC, PH, and ST, yet it's not all the same Link, and they aren't direct sequels of each other. There just isn't enough information on Zelda Wii to place it yet. I think I'm gonna take it off of my timeline because of that.

Although I haven't played all of the Zelda games (due to not owning them all), I have done a LOT of research and read practically everything about them, and the developer interviews. As for the "lack of factual information and sources", I said that I would explain everything in the video. I still haven't planned out what all I'm going to say, and there is a LOT of it, so I don't know how to explain it right now. I could try to explain it, but it would be a giant wall of text that nobody would want to read. It's just easier to explain it in a video. But I think I might move some stuff to the Child Timeline now that you mention the Gerudo. I don't know how I overlooked that, lol. So I'm thinking I might change it to something like this...

....../- TWW/PH - ST
OoT
......\MM - TP - OoS/OoA - TMC - FS - FSA - ALttP/LA - LoZ/AoL

or

....../- TWW/PH - ST
OoT
......\MM - TP - LoZ/AoL - OoS/OoA - TMC - FS - FSA - ALttP/LA

I can't decide where LoZ/AoL should go. =P


Like I already said, I think that the theory that TMC is the first in the timeline is stupid. It doesn't fit. And FS IS in my timeline, right before FSA.
 
Tyeforce said:
Tom said:
Waitwaitwait. You're back? o:

Secondly, I don't see much of point to making a timeline for the Zelda games since someone will come out of no where to bash you for it other than the fact that MM comes sometime after OoT and so does WW followed by its sequels. And then there's the whole speculation that MM was the first game in the series.
I guess so. http://forums.the-bell-tree.com?topic=7289193

But it's fun! XD And who thinks MM is the first game in the series? That makes no sense at all. o_O
I meant MC. Half asleep when I posted that.
 
My new timeline:
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It's looking better now, but I think ALTTP should go on the adult line, before WW, since Ganon was sealed away in the sacred realm by the sages. The sages all have daughters who are the maidens you save in that game, one of them being a new Zelda. Also the sages were never awoken in the child line, so they would never exist there.
 
Tye, you forgot one crucial element about Minish Cap though.
Gustav, the hatless hero before and the wielder of the Picori Sword who defeated the darkness, I think the legend of Gustav is the earliest legend in Hyrule history, and about the references to OOX, you have to consider what those are those, Din, Nayru, and Farore, in human form, whether these are the same goddesses that created Hyrule or not, they are powerful Oracles, and Nayru can time travel.
And anyways, about the ST geography, we actually do know a little bit, there is a water area, a forest area, a fire area, and a snow area, all with the Spirit Tower in the middle.
 
Jarv156 said:
It's looking better now, but I think ALTTP should go on the adult line, before WW, since Ganon was sealed away in the sacred realm by the sages. The sages all have daughters who are the maidens you save in that game, one of them being a new Zelda. Also the sages were never awoken in the child line, so they would never exist there.
You can't put anything between OoT and TWW, because it's been confirmed that TWW directly follows the adult ending of OoT, with no games in between. And FSA works for ALttP's backstory.

Megamannt125 said:
Tye, you forgot one crucial element about Minish Cap though.
Gustav, the hatless hero before and the wielder of the Picori Sword who defeated the darkness, I think the legend of Gustav is the earliest legend in Hyrule history, and about the references to OOX, you have to consider what those are those, Din, Nayru, and Farore, in human form, whether these are the same goddesses that created Hyrule or not, they are powerful Oracles, and Nayru can time travel.
And anyways, about the ST geography, we actually do know a little bit, there is a water area, a forest area, a fire area, and a snow area, all with the Spirit Tower in the middle.
It can be one of the earliest legends, but that doesn't mean the game has to be the first.
 
tl;dr

I like the timeline, except I think MC should go first.

That is all.
 
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