Pokemon IV Breeding help?

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I've looked at stuff online about it and I'm still as confused as ever.

I just want to raise pokemon that would be able to beat the battle maison. Keep in mind that I have never done this before in my several years of pokemon d: also can you add explanation on how Effort Values factor into raising pokemon competitively?

I'm also looking for a friend safari that has a Pansage. Will be glad to add any friend safari though. :3


Kind Regards, Alec
 
I have a bit of a headache, so I hope this doesn't come out too jumbled.

IVs (or Individual Values) are the part of your Pokemon's stats that are set once the Pokemon has been generated (as in, hatched, if you're breeding). They can differ from Pokemon to Pokemon of the same species, so not all Pokemon have the ability to reach maximum potential.

You can check a Pokemon's IVs in Kiloude City, once you've beat the Elite Four. He'll be the purple-haired guy on the left side in the Pokemon Center. He'll tell you which of your pokemon's stats are good, and which aren't (if your pokemon has a low IV, he'll tell you you won't get very far with it). You're looking for an Outstanding Pokemon whose stats can't be beat.

People who breed competitively tend to try for at least 4 good stats, and which 4 they want depends on the kind of pokemon they're breeding. I try to go for 5 good ones. 6 is also possible, but very annoying to get.

Passing down IVs has been made easier in X and Y thanks to the Destiny Knot. Be sure to have one when breeding. It takes 5 random IVs from the parents and guarantees that they'll be passed down. The more good IVs the parents have, the easier it will be to breed upward.

Ideally, you'd start with two Pokemon with at least 2 IVs each, and both of those having two different IVs. Breed those two until one of the parents have 3 IVs, and depending on which IVs they are, replace one of the parents to increase your chances of getting more IVs. You replace the parents whose IVs the child already has, since you would no longer need that parent. Keep going until you get a Pokemon with 4, 5, or even 6 IVs, if you want.

Natures are important as well. There are neutral natures, which won't affect a Pokemon's stats one way or the other. However, many natures will add to one stat, and take from another, which is why people try for Pokemon with specific Natures. You can breed for Natures before breeding for IVs or after. You pass down Natures by using an Everstone, which passes down the Nature of the Pokemon who's holding it.

People who are breeding will have one Pokemon hold the Destiny Knot, and another Pokemon holding the Everstone, to ensure that stats and natures are being consistently passed down.

Another thing that gets passed down is a Pokemon's Ability. Having the right abilities on a Pokemon is important to battles because they have very important effects. I believe getting the mother's ability to pass down is easier, but the child can still manage to inherit the father's ability. Be sure you get the ability you want on your pokemon before investing time into raising its EVs.

EVs can be switched around depending on what stat you want to invest in for your Pokemon. Each Pokemon gets 508 EVs total, with 252 being the maximum amount of EVs you can invest into one single stat.

Ideally, you start EV training a Pokemon that's never fought anything before, so that none of its EVs have been raised. If a Pokemon has EVs in a stat that you don't want it to have them in, you can get a Reset Bag through the super training window by punching the default bag. This could take some time, but Reset Bags are very handy. You can tell what stats have been raised on a Pokemon in that same Super training window. The darker green area are the base stats, and the yellow part represents the EVs. If there's yellow in stats you don't want, use the reset bag.

From here, there are two ways to raise EVs.

Super Training involves using the minigames with the soccer balls. It's easy to tell which one is which, since they'll be labeled with the stat they increase.

You can also do horde training by fighting certain types of Pokemon. Each Pokemon you fight will raise one kind of EV that it give you. Fighting hordes gives you 5 at once (sometimes 10, since some pokemon give 2 EV points when you defeat them).

Guide for training with Hordes
Getting another Destiny Knot in case you lose yours
Getting more Everstones
Pokemon Natures

Pokemon Team Builder. Useful tool for building a hypothetical team quickly to see if it works out, so that you don't end up investing a lot of time and end up having a team that doesn't work out for you.
 
Basically what lynn said except I'd like to add that breeding with Ditto can be VERY helpful here. They usually have pretty go IVs, so if you get a 6 IV Ditto, that can make breeding MUCH easier! (And if it's foreign, there's a chance for a 6 IV SHINY!!!) Also, like lynn said, the Destiny Knot passes down 5 random IVs from each parent, so it doesn't matter who holds it. The sixth stat will be completely random, but you can't choose what the random stat will be. I'll make an example with 2 Pokes I have:
Vivillon
Ability: Compound Eyes. Nature: Quiet.
HP: 26 IV
Attack: 31 IV
Defence: 31 IV
SP. Attack: 24 IV
SP. Defence: 31 IV
Speed: 31 IV
Item: Everstone

Ditto
Ability doesn't matter since it can't be passed down. Nature: Quirky
All stats are 31 IV.
Item: Destiny Knot

And let's say that the Child looks like this:
Ability: Compound Eyes. Nature: Quiet
HP: 26 IV
Attack: 31 IV
Defence: 31 IV
SP. Attack: 24 IV
SP. Defence: 17 IV
Speed: 31 IV

Since both parents have a lot of perfect stats, the child also gets a lot! The HP stat is from the mom, Attack could be from either, Defence could be from either, so on and so on. When we get to SP. Defence, you'll see that it's completely different for some reason. That's the random stat for this child. It also got the same Nature and Ability from it's mother as well! If you want certain egg moves, that'll be somewhat challenging, as you'll have to find a parent with good IV's and the move you want to pass down to it. I think there's plenty of people here to help you if you have more questions!

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I forgot to add. 31 IV's means that the specific stat is perfect, as each stat is on a number line up to 31. so if it has 31 IV's in a stat, then that stat is perfect! When people say they have a 6 IV whatever, that means that all 6 stats are perfect! Whenever someone talks about a 5 or 4 IV Pok?mon, they'll usually say what stats aren't perfect.You can also click this link to calculate the exact IV's! It's good to do it when you first get your Pok?mon, as EV's will be difficult to manage when you start battling with it. It'll also usually say a range instead of an exact number, which happens for most lowered level Pok?mon. If you want the exact IV's, you'll have to keep record of the EV's it gets until level 70ish or so. That's all!
 
Okay, I think I'm startin to get this. One more question though, can you max out the EVs of a pokemon before you start training it?

For example lets say that I got a pokemon hatching that has 4 or 5 perfect IVs. Can I max out its EVs via super training before I level up, so that battling random pokemon doesn't increase EVs I don't need.
 
Okay, I think I'm startin to get this. One more question though, can you max out the EVs of a pokemon before you start training it?

For example lets say that I got a pokemon hatching that has 4 or 5 perfect IVs. Can I max out its EVs via super training before I level up, so that battling random pokemon doesn't increase EVs I don't need.

Yes, you can max out a Pokemon's EVs via Super Training before you begin leveling it up.
Feeding your Pokemon vitamins also give EVs without battling (A Protein, for example will increase your Pokemon's Attack EVs by 10, but you can only use the same vitamin up to 10 times, which is 100 EVs for that stat). Horde battling is probably the fastest way to EV train though.
 
Okay, I think I'm startin to get this. One more question though, can you max out the EVs of a pokemon before you start training it?

For example lets say that I got a pokemon hatching that has 4 or 5 perfect IVs. Can I max out its EVs via super training before I level up, so that battling random pokemon doesn't increase EVs I don't need.
There are the reset bags. They reset the EVs. Very useful. Especially if you decide to level up your pokemon first and they earn the unwanted EVs.
Here's how I do it:

I have 3 pokemon (you could have 2). One with Sweet Scent (My maxed EV Gloom. With Maxed out EVs he can't earn anymore) the Pokemon you're going to EV train and one with Pokerus (It's best if your Sweet Scent pokemon has Pokerus but it doesn't matter.)

Well everyone's right about what's been said, they're forgetting things that make Effort Value training Effortless. I wouldn't waste money on vitamins, either.
Pokerus doubles the EVs you earn. It is a 24 hour 'virus' that's random and contagious (it can spread.) However Pokemon may keep Pokerus if placed inside the PC Box. After 24 hours a Pokemon will recieve a pink face on their profile. That means they have the effects of Pokerus, but it cannot be spread.
Macho Brace doubles the EVs you earn. An item to be held, it is found on Route 15.
Power Items adds four additional EV points a single stat depending on what one it is. The holder's speed is halved, however, when this is held. There is one for each stat and they are bought for 16 BP at the Battle Maison.

I use a basic stategy that's very effortless and takes minutes to max out. Equip the Macho Brace/Power Item to the pokemon you wish to train, Battle with the pokemon with Pokerus and switch into the pokemon you're EV training. Pray they survive. That pokemon should now have Pokerus. From now on, it's a breeze.
If your sweet scent pokemon and Pokerus pokemon were seperate, you can box your Pokerus pokemon now that the pokemon you're training has Pokerus.
You'll want to find the Pokemon that give off the EVs you need. They're found here; as well as a clearer explanation and stuff. That's where Sweet Scent comes in. It's best if you use Gloom as your sweet scent pokemon. Gloom is common and has access to Sweet Scent and Dazzling Gleam (hits all targets). Bellossom and vileplume are options, too.
Using Sweet Scent in normal weather/caves, you'll attract a horde. Send out the pokemon you're training, switch to your Sweet Scent pokemon and take them out. It's best if your sweet scent pokemon's EVs are maxed so they all go to the pokemon you're training. You'll recieve a lot of EVs from that one battle. Do it five or so more times and do a bit of Super Training.
A level 1 battle provides 4 points and you'll likely recieve a large bag containing 12 points, so that's an easier option; albeit arguably longer.


I've confused myself so good luck understanding this lol
 
Thanks you guys. Also is it random when you get a reset bag? Or is there a specific way you get it.
 
it's all random. took me 30 minutes to get 2; and I got like 3 without trying :cool:
 
So just any random super training would do? Is here a way to count exactly how many EVs my pokemon has instead of just looking at a graph thing. Like a calculator online?
 
So just any random super training would do? Is here a way to count exactly how many EVs my pokemon has instead of just looking at a graph thing. Like a calculator online?
You could calculate the amount of EVs you make in a battle. Like say if you had Pokerus and beat a horde of Whismur (1 HP). You would double the 5 EVs and calculate ten HP EVs for that one battle.

You can max out a stat with five horde battles and a Super Training Session.

Take Whismur for example
Base 1 HP EV
Pokerus doubles the EV so you earn two EVs
Pokerus also doubles the Power Items so instead of being 4, it's 8
2+8=10
So that's 10 HP EVs from one whismur. In a horde, there's 5. So if you 1HKO (bare in mind they're around level 7 so they're easy to take out) the horde with a multi target move like Surf or Dazzling Gleam you could earn 50 HP EVs in a minimum of a one turn battle (assuming you use the Exp. Share)
Round the 252 to 250 and divide that by the 50 HP EVs. 5. 5 horde battles. The other two can be earned with another horde, a training bag or Super Training.
It can be quickened with pokemon with 2/3 EVs but there is a big level gap and the 1 EV battles are easy and quick.

Also, the Power Items add the 4 additionsl EVs to the stat regardless of which pokemon you defeat. So a Power Brace will add the 4 HP EVs when Special Defense EV Training against Hoppips

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EVs are arguably more important than IVs, but IVs are still important nevertheless. That one extra stat in Speed can be a game changer.
 
1 other thing nobody is mentioning. Instead of using a reset bag (I've never used one) you can also use certain berries. Instead of resetting ALL of your stats, it'll lower a specific one. Some of them are Tamato, Kelpsy, and Hondew. You do get them through berry mutation, but they're helpful when you do get them. And I find Super Training the easiest way to get EV's, but that's just my opinion.
 
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