Economic Collapse

[Jeremy]

The idea of Obama having communistic ideals has been debunked time and time again. Of course, your point about guns is valid, Bacon, but then you may as well call all Democrats communists. Which wouldn't be valid.

Before anyone asks, I'm an independent liberal... hence why I tend to lean toward the Democrats' way of thinking.

I'm sure Obama will be the most communist president yet. Bush, perhaps, being the current most communist. But what's important to point out is that Obama and McCain are almost exactly the same on every issue. Also, Obama isn't as anti-gun as some may say. However, he does not take the pro-freedom position when it comes to guns. Neither does McCain though.

McCain allows guns though. And I'm glad Pallin is part of the NRA. BUt also, Obama isn't pro-life. Abortion isn't right. It's still killing. And that's what you're doing. If you don't want a baby, don't have premature sex!

Obama isn't against all guns either. Both McCain and Obama have a F- rating by Gun Owners of America. As you can see, neither of them support the Constitution. And this is only one small part of the Constitution.

But like I said... back to the economy =p

 

[JJH]

But like I said... back to the economy =p

It fails.

liek.... kai?

 

[Bacon Boy]

The idea of Obama having communistic ideals has been debunked time and time again. Of course, your point about guns is valid, Bacon, but then you may as well call all Democrats communists. Which wouldn't be valid.

Before anyone asks, I'm an independent liberal... hence why I tend to lean toward the Democrats' way of thinking.

I'm sure Obama will be the most communist president yet. Bush, perhaps, being the current most communist. But what's important to point out is that Obama and McCain are almost exactly the same on every issue. Also, Obama isn't as anti-gun as some may say. However, he does not take the pro-freedom position when it comes to guns. Neither does McCain though.

McCain allows guns though. And I'm glad Pallin is part of the NRA. BUt also, Obama isn't pro-life. Abortion isn't right. It's still killing. And that's what you're doing. If you don't want a baby, don't have premature sex!

Obama isn't against all guns either. Both McCain and Obama have a F- rating by Gun Owners of America. As you can see, neither of them support the Constitution. And this is only one small part of the Constitution.

But like I said... back to the economy =p

not really, me, a gun owner, sees mcain letting us keep our weapons, seeing as how he knows why we have them. Considering he actually has some experience in certain fields, like running a people, being a war verteren.

 

[Tyler]

The idea of Obama having communistic ideals has been debunked time and time again. Of course, your point about guns is valid, Bacon, but then you may as well call all Democrats communists. Which wouldn't be valid.

Before anyone asks, I'm an independent liberal... hence why I tend to lean toward the Democrats' way of thinking.

I'm sure Obama will be the most communist president yet. Bush, perhaps, being the current most communist. But what's important to point out is that Obama and McCain are almost exactly the same on every issue. Also, Obama isn't as anti-gun as some may say. However, he does not take the pro-freedom position when it comes to guns. Neither does McCain though.

McCain allows guns though. And I'm glad Pallin is part of the NRA. BUt also, Obama isn't pro-life. Abortion isn't right. It's still . And that's what you're doing. If you don't want a baby, don't have premature !

Obama isn't against all guns either. Both McCain and Obama have a F- rating by Gun Owners of America. As you can see, neither of them support the Constitution. And this is only one small part of the Constitution.

But like I said... back to the economy =p

not really, me, a gun owner, sees mcain letting us keep our weapons, seeing as how he knows why we have them. Considering he actually has some experience in certain fields, like running a people, being a war verteren.

Just because McCain's a war verteran doesn't mean that he'll allow guns.

It's against the constitution to take away the right to bear arms. Congress wouldn't let it happen.

 

[Sporge27]

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McCain allows guns though. And I'm glad Pallin is part of the NRA. BUt also, Obama isn't pro-life. Abortion isn't right. It's still . And that's what you're doing. If you don't want a baby, don't have premature !

Obama isn't against all guns either. Both McCain and Obama have a F- rating by Gun Owners of America. As you can see, neither of them support the Constitution. And this is only one small part of the Constitution.

But like I said... back to the economy =p

not really, me, a gun owner, sees mcain letting us keep our weapons, seeing as how he knows why we have them. Considering he actually has some experience in certain fields, like running a people, being a war verteren.

Just because McCain's a war verteran doesn't mean that he'll allow guns.

It's against the constitution to take away the right to bear arms. Congress wouldn't let it happen.

It is really the supreme courts job to judge whether a law is constitutional, it is the congresses job to make the laws, the president would only be approving a law made by congress, he alone cannot make a law happen and if it is against the constitution it will never last. there would be a rebellion before that.

But regardless of all this the economy is doing horribly right now. I think it has to stem right to how much our country is in debt. Our country is in trillions of dollars of debt. Each citizen owes over $30,000 and I would like to say that not everyone could just pay that o get rid of it. We are spending way too much and it is only getting worse right now. Why did we get into a war we couldn't pay for? Why are we spending money we don't have, while at the same time afraid to raise taxes to conquer our debt? Our country is like the so many people who can't get out of their credit card debt. If we don't start paying it off faster than it builds we are all screwed.

 

[Tyler]

I read something in the paper today that said the out of all the money the 50 trillion dollars our government is worth only 10 percent of that money is how much we are in debt. This is also compared to WWII where the government owed 120% of the money they were worth.

So technically while we owe trillions of dollars, we don't owe as much as we did in WWII in a statistical standpoint.But of course that is no excuse to be in debt.

It is really the supreme courts job to judge whether a law is constitutional, it is the congresses job to make the laws, the president would only be approving a law made by congress, he alone cannot make a law happen and if it is against the constitution it will never last. there would be a rebellion before that.

Well, yea that's true. Really it's all three branches job to make sure that something is constitutional due to the all the checks and balances the system has.

 

[sunate]

All great things must come to an end

Like Mr. Roger's Neighborhood

=[] EXZACTLY!!!!

 

[Jeremy]

Ben Bernanke getting owned:

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[VantagE]

The big reason, though there are other reasons, that I will not vote for Obama is because he is pro-abortion...

 

[Melee201]

The big reason, though there are other reasons, that I will not vote for Obama is because he is pro-abortion...

Same here. I am Pro-Life all the way.

 

[Bacon Boy]

The big reason, though there are other reasons, that I will not vote for Obama is because he is pro-abortion...

Same here. I am Pro-Life all the way.

OH YEA! Pro-Life all the way! Also, his common phrase is: "You misunderstood me, what I said was this:", and he wants a week for every decision, or to mark present on every bill.

 

[Sporge27]

It isn't proabortion, I don't think anyone is that, but to have the option available for extreme cases is needed. We are already overpopulated on this planet we don't need mothers forced to have children that they are not ready for. In cases where the mothers health is at risk or where rape is involved why should they not be allowed an abortion?

Now I know that this really becomes more of a question of life, human life. However I beg to argue that the question should not be when life begins because technically the egg and sperm cells are alive, so every time you don't have a baby you are letting those die. The question should be when consciousness begins. I suppose that could be a question of when human life begins. It is really just a difficult question that I think needs to be a personal one. This is not an area that I believe the government should be involved in beyond what it already is.

This is an extremely gray area and I don't think any sole group should have the final say on whether it is banned or not.

What should be done is educating students so they don't make uninformed hormone driven decisions and prevent the need for abortions.

How on earth did we get on this anyway? This is a thread on the economy if you want a presidential debate we should make a thread. but I gotta go to class.