I admit that I don't have very solid evidence for townreading her, and the game has only been going for 3 hours and I could be wrong. But it's just a gut feeling, her posts sound town to me so far.
gut scum reads > gut town reads
I admit that I don't have very solid evidence for townreading her, and the game has only been going for 3 hours and I could be wrong. But it's just a gut feeling, her posts sound town to me so far.
Dad, have you read the last like 4 pages? Evan is Zendal's partner
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Well, if Zendel is REALLY scum.
Welp, I think Dad susses me.
I said that because you took a long time to type that and I thought you were going to say that you sussed me, but no.
Yeah I'm not a different time zone but I sleep during the day because 3rd shift. And I didn't expect this to fill up so fast.
Anyways after my skim my bets are on Zendel being scum. I don't like anyone who sorta swoops in and says objective things to seem helpful and pro-town, whether that be asking other players questions to seem like they're leading discussion or explaining fundamentals of mafia to newer players. Examples of these kinds of posts:
and there have also been defenses where they weren't necessarily called for:
and weird posts like this one:
It seems like a really arbitrary comment to make and has the potential to be an attempt to steer attention to specific people because of unlikely partnerships, such as Dolby and myself for example if it was two players with a bit of experience. After playing in the last game she hosted it's pretty clear Bianca just totally randomizes.
Post #103 seems like the first bit of Zendel's content that has any bite to it what-so-ever, and it's through defense, which I don't like either because at the end of it a stance still isn't taken on Evan.
##VOTE: Zendel
Among the active people I think his(?) partner is between Vanessa and Byngo for me. Both of them have the same issue I have with Zendel in that they're saying obvious/objective comments for the sake of seeming pro-town and providing obvious townreads that others have already done.
The players seem super sheepy rn tbh, not gonna lie - loads of sus on me and Vanessa, lots of TRing of Byngo, etc.
amazonevan19 said:Ok but back to business, I'm ok with a Vanessa lynch
I said that because you took a long time to type that and I thought you were going to say that you sussed me, but no.
ive put forth what reads i have, cant help that other people think the same. im not the type of player that generates lakes of content. is that the only reason you sus me?
looking forward to Dolby’s crackpot theory
Sounding a bit paranoid here bud.
ok to start things off. how many scum do y?all think we?re dealing with?
Imo it?s safe to assume there?s 2 just cuz 3 seems too many in 9 players
idk if bianca let?s a randomizer completely do the work or if she tweaks it, but it?s easily possible for a new player to be scum, probably with an experienced teammate
smh am i gonna have to check each post for white text
highlighting is what i meant but that?s stilltoo much effort uwu
so uhhhhhh revealing who u think is blue (wether ur right or wrong) is a giant no no
did you atleast skim through a few games to get an idea of how the games work, or was this a yolo situation
This post is the first reading through her filter again that caught my eye on Byngo (isolated from Vanessa). What draws attention to this is not that it came late, but that it's functionally a copy of what Zendal said in #71, but townleans him for itthoughts pretty much align with everyone?s regarding punchy. Hes being reckless, even for new scum. id expect much more reservedness
Oh and the bizarre statements every now and then which trips everyone up.
This is notable as it's the first (non-regurgitated(let's be honest, we all kinda bandwagoned eachother on Punchy)) reads on anybody after Punchy. What's notable here is the discontiuity in logic between the second and third paragraphs, as she treats Vanessa as a null, but treats her as a tl in the third paragraph. This also feels like mudslinging at Evan particularly, as Evan didn't even have any scumreads, and while he did make a post about Vanessa in response to me, it was noting a mild tonal difference and ultimately put her down as null. Zendal did end up SRing Vanessai was eating plus im not gonna be around to post every hour l o l
what?s so sus about vanessa? yes she hasn?t posted much and i would place her as null, but that?s simply due to early game and low content. of her posts, there?s nothing that sticks out about her wording or tone
ngl i don?t like how a number of people thought vanessa was sus after dolby brought her up. punchy is still a tr but eyes r def on zendel and evan
also wtf deddene posted?
Vanessa is null for me but she seems a bit more passive this time around, idk it's hard to explain. Like yeah, she's been here, but what she's posted so far just seems like obvious "truths" and isn't really her investigating anything.
ok ik u think im not good as scum, and i wouldn?t disagree, but do u really think id be that obvious
Other two notable postsi mean there are reasons but okay
Tonally awkward, but ultimately does little to alter any level of suspicionIt's best not to say who you think has blue roles because we need to keep blue roles alive. If mafia knows who is blue they will probably kill them
Literally a regurgitation of what I said on PunchyFor now I'm townleaning Punchy as well, his post about him and Dedenne seems like something only new town would post
This post specifically is fine upon reflectionYeah don't worry about it. Everyone called me a dumb noob in my first game. It's nothing personal, we're just trying to seperate purposeful scum acting from genuine inexperience.
This is not a strong reason for sus and I wouldn't lynch or anything based on this but my first instinct upon seeing the white text kerfuffle at the beginning was that it was a distraction from llegit starting the game
Also if my 3 posts so far sound passive it's probably because I wrote them while running to catch a train
Also @Punchy don't sus Byngo for not posting for 30 minutes that's no time at all
At 3:31, post #109, he also posts this, implicating ZendalBingo gasnt posted anything in quite a while (that's like 30 mins) and he could possibly be supcum
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Oh rip typos
I think Zendel is faking it and is another scum.
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Gut feeling.
Yeah I think Evan's scum.
I'm pretty sure Dolby is townie.
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My current reads:
Scum: Evan
Townie: Dolby, (dedene I guess) Zendel
Null: everyone else.
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Evan just doesn't seem like townie Evan (totally haven't been lurking like every mafia game)
This is a bit awkward and seems designed to leave Vanessa some wiggle room and not take heat from sussing townLots of ppl are taking a stance on Evan I see. I'm null on him atm. Play seems a little different from the past two games where he was town but he hasn't done anything scumtelling yet imo
I don't think Dedenne has posted yet?
Gut townlean on Byngo because she's been making good contributions imo, and last game when she was scum she didn't say much at the beginning
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Very strong townlean now, no scum would flop around this much
Zendel's response to my post about white text being a distraction. I found this an awkwardly worded response considering that iirc they were the one that started the white text?
Like to both of those posts btw.
Punchy seems townie despite it being so early.
Don't like the flip back between these posts, however, I don't find it particularly notablePunchy seems like a confused player, which isn't alignment indicative.
Remember Bianca in her first game? (she was scum in Franchise Wars)
Newer players are trickier to read, they have no meta and their confusion doesn't really mean anything unless they slip.
ok I know I suck at mafia but I wouldn't be THAT obvious c'mon give me some creditDolby said:Now granted, I don't think that you'd be this obvious as scum, but honestly most of the obviousness seems to be coming from Vanessa.
I mean fair point, but I only called out the mention of Byngo because I thought his reason for calling her out (not posting for 30 minutes) was ridiculous. I can't remember why he sussed Zendel but for Evan he was at least looking at his content. Also I'm null on both Zendel and Evan, but townread Byngo, which is why I would defend her and not them.Dolby said:Point is, Punchy's posted A LOT of anti-Evan stuff with no evidence, he also has posted a more recent post implicating Zendal, but also with no evidence and what he describes as a gut feeling(about 8 minutes before Vanessa's post). If Vanessa truly cared about who Punchy was scumreading needlessly, she would have at least made mention of Zendal or Evan. Punchy even had Byngo nulled, and in no way was his comment worthy of specific mention anymore than his comment on Zendal. (I stg, this makes sense in my head, but basically why call out only the mention of Byngo?)
Honestly favourite quote of the day I'm laughing so hardDolby is just basically calling me a noob in 5 paragraphs.
Honestly favourite quote of the day I'm laughing so hard
At this point in time, myself and Zendal have both made equivilent or greater contributions (she hasn't mentioned us yet).
>Zendel having contributed as much as you. Biggest contributors up to this post have been you, me, Evan, and Punchy. At least outside of townreading filler. While I follow your logic here, postponing 'looking' at Zendel for the sake of Vanessa/Byngo seems pretty avoidant tbh, especially because he is in a similar boat with them.
i was eating plus im not gonna be around to post every hour l o l
what’s so sus about vanessa? yes she hasn’t posted much and i would place her as null, but that’s simply due to early game and low content. of her posts, there’s nothing that sticks out about her wording or tone
ngl i don’t like how a number of people thought vanessa was sus after dolby brought her up. punchy is still a tr but eyes r def on zendel and evan
also wtf deddene posted?
And so is Vanessa
I was refering to Zendal>Byngo because I'm pretty sure that at that point Zendal had provided kinda a reads list and Byngo hadn't made this post yet
Why is Vanessa town in your eyes? Also you did seem to lump Zendel with Evan for a moment but he stays in your townreads list.