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gut scum reads > gut town reads
PunchyTheCat
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Dad, have you read the last like 4 pages? Evan is Zendal's partner
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Well, if Zendel is REALLY scum.
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Welp, I think Dad susses me.
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Well, if Zendel is REALLY scum.
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Welp, I think Dad susses me.
I'm all caught up. I can't exactly agree with feeling so sure that Evan is scum, the only sus thing he's done in my eyes is calling you out for speculating on how Bianca distributes as a host but didn't really call out Zendel when he did it. Might put him in as a potential partner now that I think about it. Alongside Bynco/Vanessa.
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PunchyTheCat
Senior Member
I'm sure he's scum. If I die tonight, Evan's scum because most other people wouldn't vote off a newbie, and everyone is townreading me. I don't see myself as a threat to anyone other then Evan.
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I said that because you took a long time to type that and I thought you were going to say that you sussed me, but no.
PunchyTheCat
Senior Member
We need more people saying that EVAN IS MAFIA!
Sounding a bit paranoid here bud.
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Repeating others' reads isn't my main reasoning for suspecting you, if you read my post, I said that both you and Vanessa are saying objective, helpful sounding things, which comes off as semi-experienced mafia appealing to town sensibility.
PunchyTheCat
Senior Member
Welp, idk how to respond to that. All I know is that I'm townie and Evan's mafia
Punchy-Ok, honestly, would new scum be THIS bombastic, no. He'd at least make an effort to distance himself from any bad lynches, or, if he's scum, is expecting the Evan lynch to not go through in the first place. Now, as for his Evan read, whether it's right or wrong, it's a classic and comical example of (overly) enthusitic town going full throtle for their sus. No ****ing way I'm going through his filter
DolbyOMG SUCH OBVIOUS SCUM, KILL HIM BEFORE HE GETS ALL OF OUR BLUES
Dedenne-The only reason she's on here is because I'm mildly uncomfortable with Punchy TRing you, of course Dedenne is null.
Byngo-I'm just going to say here as a preface that perhaps it's flawed for me to do reads before everybody has posted. But what the hell is going on between you and Vanessa? Now granted, I don't think that you'd be this obvious as scum, but honestly most of the obviousness seems to be coming from Vanessa.
All of these are fine, and don't really contribute to me TRing or sussing her, but do little to advance the game
Both of these posts refer specifically to Punchy, not really anything to be concerned about, though of note is that it takes Byngo a while to say what has become obvious to us sooner.
Vanessa-I'm putting Vanessa here, yeah I know that I'm going out of order, but my case on them being scum is much stronger through Vanessa's behavior, and I want to put an emphasis on it
This is where stuff gets interesting and **** gets real
At 3:21 PM, post 104, Punchy posts this, throwing minor suspicion at Byngo
At this point, Punchy's also said this
Point is, Punchy's posted A LOT of anti-Evan stuff with no evidence, he also has posted a more recent post implicating Zendal, but also with no evidence and what he describes as a gut feeling(about 8 minutes before Vanessa's post). If Vanessa truly cared about who Punchy was scumreading needlessly, she would have at least made mention of Zendal or Evan. Punchy even had Byngo nulled, and in no way was his comment worthy of specific mention anymore than his comment on Zendal. (I stg, this makes sense in my head, but basically why call out only the mention of Byngo?)
And again, special, specific mention of Byngo. At this point in time, myself and Zendal have both made equivilent or greater contributions (she hasn't mentioned us yet). Moreover, this relies on pretty bad logic, as Byngo had comparable activity to last game at this point in time, and had to be replaced out.
Really, just really weak
Evan-Honestly hasn't done anything particularly town or scumlike. The only thing that I don't like is the initial Punchy pressure in the begining.
Zendal
As of right now, if I'm wrong on Byngo/Vanessa, Zendal is the next place I'd look
Also don't like how he specifically jumped on my Vanessa read (I'd definetely say he's not scum with Vanessa)
I've spent far to much time on this
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I hope I don't sound like a rambling maniac
DolbyOMG SUCH OBVIOUS SCUM, KILL HIM BEFORE HE GETS ALL OF OUR BLUES
Dedenne-The only reason she's on here is because I'm mildly uncomfortable with Punchy TRing you, of course Dedenne is null.
Byngo-I'm just going to say here as a preface that perhaps it's flawed for me to do reads before everybody has posted. But what the hell is going on between you and Vanessa? Now granted, I don't think that you'd be this obvious as scum, but honestly most of the obviousness seems to be coming from Vanessa.
All of these are fine, and don't really contribute to me TRing or sussing her, but do little to advance the game
Both of these posts refer specifically to Punchy, not really anything to be concerned about, though of note is that it takes Byngo a while to say what has become obvious to us sooner.
This post is the first reading through her filter again that caught my eye on Byngo (isolated from Vanessa). What draws attention to this is not that it came late, but that it's functionally a copy of what Zendal said in #71, but townleans him for it
This is notable as it's the first (non-regurgitated(let's be honest, we all kinda bandwagoned eachother on Punchy)) reads on anybody after Punchy. What's notable here is the discontiuity in logic between the second and third paragraphs, as she treats Vanessa as a null, but treats her as a tl in the third paragraph. This also feels like mudslinging at Evan particularly, as Evan didn't even have any scumreads, and while he did make a post about Vanessa in response to me, it was noting a mild tonal difference and ultimately put her down as null. Zendal did end up SRing Vanessa
Other two notable posts
Vanessa-I'm putting Vanessa here, yeah I know that I'm going out of order, but my case on them being scum is much stronger through Vanessa's behavior, and I want to put an emphasis on it
Tonally awkward, but ultimately does little to alter any level of suspicion
Literally a regurgitation of what I said on Punchy
This post specifically is fine upon reflection
This is where stuff gets interesting and **** gets real
At 3:21 PM, post 104, Punchy posts this, throwing minor suspicion at Byngo
At 3:31, post #109, he also posts this, implicating Zendal
At this point, Punchy's also said this
Point is, Punchy's posted A LOT of anti-Evan stuff with no evidence, he also has posted a more recent post implicating Zendal, but also with no evidence and what he describes as a gut feeling(about 8 minutes before Vanessa's post). If Vanessa truly cared about who Punchy was scumreading needlessly, she would have at least made mention of Zendal or Evan. Punchy even had Byngo nulled, and in no way was his comment worthy of specific mention anymore than his comment on Zendal. (I stg, this makes sense in my head, but basically why call out only the mention of Byngo?)
This is a bit awkward and seems designed to leave Vanessa some wiggle room and not take heat from sussing town
And again, special, specific mention of Byngo. At this point in time, myself and Zendal have both made equivilent or greater contributions (she hasn't mentioned us yet). Moreover, this relies on pretty bad logic, as Byngo had comparable activity to last game at this point in time, and had to be replaced out.
Really, just really weak
Evan-Honestly hasn't done anything particularly town or scumlike. The only thing that I don't like is the initial Punchy pressure in the begining.
Zendal
As of right now, if I'm wrong on Byngo/Vanessa, Zendal is the next place I'd look
Don't like the flip back between these posts, however, I don't find it particularly notable
Also don't like how he specifically jumped on my Vanessa read (I'd definetely say he's not scum with Vanessa)
I've spent far to much time on this
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I hope I don't sound like a rambling maniac
ok I know I suck at mafia but I wouldn't be THAT obvious c'mon give me some creditDolby said:
I mean fair point, but I only called out the mention of Byngo because I thought his reason for calling her out (not posting for 30 minutes) was ridiculous. I can't remember why he sussed Zendel but for Evan he was at least looking at his content. Also I'm null on both Zendel and Evan, but townread Byngo, which is why I would defend her and not them.Dolby said:
PunchyTheCat
Senior Member
Zendal is townie. Evan is scum. Dolby is just basically calling me a noob in 5 paragraphs. Byngo is townie. Dad is townie. Dedene is a tl for me because I don't think Bianca would make either of us scum.
PunchyTheCat
Senior Member
I know it's going in my sig.
>Zendel having contributed as much as you. Biggest contributors up to this post have been you, me, Evan, and Punchy. At least outside of townreading filler. While I follow your logic here, postponing 'looking' at Zendel for the sake of Vanessa/Byngo seems pretty avoidant tbh, especially because he is in a similar boat with them.
PunchyTheCat
Senior Member
Current reads:
Town
Dolby
Byngo
Dedene maybe
Zendel
Null: Waffles.
Scum:
Evan
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Dad's town
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And so is Vanessa
Town
Dolby
Byngo
Dedene maybe
Zendel
Null: Waffles.
Scum:
Evan
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Dad's town
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And so is Vanessa
PunchyTheCat
Senior Member
If Zendal is scum, Evan definitely isn't. Look back to when Evan "felt Zendal's frustration"
Why is Vanessa town in your eyes? Also you did seem to lump Zendel with Evan for a moment but he stays in your townreads list.
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I don't see what's all that contributive about Zendel's first reads list post.
PunchyTheCat
Senior Member
Zendal isn't scum with Evan. Vanessa... well you bring up a good point. She hasn't really posted much that would help town (I tunneled Evan) and she hasn't really said anything scummy either. She is town in my eyes because Evan was ok with lynching her. If she's mafia wouldn't that be playing against her wincondition?
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