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    I've read up to 11/22 so far and I'm just going to point out that Ness' behavior is incredibly telling. I don't remember which of his behaviors mean which role but it'll be obvious once I have time to go read through things more. Just gonna throw out another heads up - I probably won't have anything substantial until N1/D2 just because of all the things I need to get done in the next 2 days. I'll make a general post for today after I read and vote tomorrow.


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    Uhhh ness/tae/farobi all seem like town rn and a major distraction imo. Vanessa is playing the nub card which annoying but I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt.

    I’m okay with NL tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by xCleb View Post
    Okay, then explain why it's your preference then?

    This was something I was only interested in at first, but you've avoided such a simple question twice now.
    I was focusing on the NL question, god forbid.

    Anyways, it's just something that I'm used to for day one to get rid of distractions for town. It's how I used to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tae View Post
    first if all can we grow up between this toad / bianca stuff.
    it's over with and if it doesn't stop it's just gonna clog the thread with bull****.

    she's a distraction and it's not helping town.

    from what i've read over now, i'm working on a base for how i feel towards people.
    w/o going into too much depth bc a lot has yet to be processed thus far so don't take this TOO seriously. pls.

    [ null | town | town lean | slight / sus | scum lean | scum ]


    Dad
    Heyden
    Farobi
    Jacob
    Curry
    N e s s
    oath2order
    toadsworthy
    SensaiGallade
    VanessaMay18

    xCleb
    tae
    PandaDarling
    Locket
    Luniel
    amazonevan19
    Kit
    f11
    Trundle
    Biancasboutique
    (to elaborate on this, her attitude swings me more towards chaotic THIRD PARTY
    bc she's such a dang distraction in this thread. do i wanna lynch her today? no.
    bc this carnival theme is more than likely going to have K3P or at least a jester or something.
    her auto vote tho is annoying and a doesn't seem useful if she were actually town.)

    to also touch base on things, there are more people i have thoughts on, but i'm still processing them and working on who i'd like to hear from. i will admit that like someone had said earlier, panda's very quiet D1 makes me concerned because from what i remember she's usually a pretty strong voiced player. as for as oath, dad, caleb and other's i've never played with i don't know their usual game play and i will have to look more into it as time goes on.
    I agree with you on the fact that all this distraction is not helping town at all, however not sure why you're so fixated on bianca over the others. Ness, Sensai, and toadsworthy and **** posting to their limits.

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    I didn't give anything day one that game.

    Quote Originally Posted by amazonevan19 View Post
    Guys it's WAY too early to be thinking about NL or policy lynch, wtf oath.

    Since when is NL this appalling horrendous thing? Like, seriously, way way back in the day, the days where I think f11, Trundle, Dad, Farobi, and I used to play, we would basically just guaranteed PL after a bunch of ****-posting. This is the first D1 where I'm actually contributing.




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    Farobi




    Jacob




    Curry




    Ness





    oath2order




    toadsworthy





    SensaiGallade




    VanessaMay18





    xCleb




    tae





    PandaDarling




    Locket




    Luniel




    amazonevan19




    Kit




    f11




    Trundle




    Biancasboutique






    Town-Read: Ness, tae, VanessaMay18, xCleb, amazonevan19

    Null-Read (in no particular order): Dad, Heyden, Farobi, toadsworthy, PandaDarling, Locket, Kit, Trundle, Biancasboutique, f11

    Scum-Read: Jacob, SensaiGallade

    To Be Ranked: Curry because I can't find their posts. Please help.

    I don't like having so many people in the null-read category, but, so many people haven't contributed much.
    why are you full reads listing so early in?

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    [QUOTE=oath2order;7637369]Because he asked for my thoughts and I provided them.



    I didn't give anything day one that game.

    Quote Originally Posted by amazonevan19 View Post
    Guys it's WAY too early to be thinking about NL or policy lynch, wtf oath.

    Since when is NL this appalling horrendous thing? Like, seriously, way way back in the day, the days where I think f11, Trundle, Dad, Farobi, and I used to play, we would basically just guaranteed PL after a bunch of ****-posting. This is the first D1 where I'm actually contributing.




    [B




    [B




    Farobi




    Jacob




    Curry




    Ness





    oath2order




    toadsworthy





    SensaiGallade




    VanessaMay18





    xCleb




    tae





    PandaDarling




    Locket




    Luniel




    amazonevan19




    Kit




    f11




    Trundle




    Biancasboutique






    Town-Read: Ness, tae, VanessaMay18, xCleb, amazonevan19

    Null-Read (in no particular order): Dad, Heyden, Farobi, toadsworthy, PandaDarling, Locket, Kit, Trundle, Biancasboutique, f11

    Scum-Read: Jacob, SensaiGallade

    To Be Ranked: Curry because I can't find their posts. Please help.

    I don't like having so many people in the null-read category, but, so many people haven't contributed much.
    why are you full reads listing so early in?


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    Can anyone tell me how F11 played previously? Like I looked back at their posts and it's just answering the RQs and advocating for NL lmao. If that isn't obvious scum tell then idk what is

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    Damn, really found myself not having much time for this now that I have a job and weird schedule. I had to skim again. I have unstable internet at work and will try to make a longer analysis of other players but I'm going to dedicate my time to a specific case. I'm going to give my initial reaction to Oath because it isn't a good one:

    I find it weird that he's putting forth so much effort on day 1 which he admits himself is unusual but his goal despite these efforts is to no lynch. I also don't really like how he accused evan of a wishywashy post when it didn't seem that wishywashy to me, seems like a case of throwing the word out there to make uncertain behavior seem scummy when in fact it's more an indication of town.

    Not only this, but he's trying to use old tbt to defend the idea of no lynching and saying that it was the best thing to do in quiet day one situations when in fact it was because players were bad at being town in general and didn't know how to scumhunt and that's why NLing usually happened, and it was usually because there were inactive players who didn't post much if at all. But given the modkill rules, a silent player won't be modkilled for another day so you're not necessarily saving a mislynch in NLing, because it means town is wasting their KP while mafia freely uses their KP in the night that follows a mislynch. And then those people who aren't posting much do get modkilled. There have been plenty of times when mafia has been lynched day one and it's in more recent times, not as much in the old tbt days. Why? Because people are improving in general thanks to certain players that came around.

    The list of all the players with spoilers seems kind of fillery to me as well, given half of them are 'only have a few posts so that must means there's nothing to read into' when in fact you can still read into one or two posts. Not only that but he ended this big post with an excuse on his nulls being all 'I'm annoyed that there's so many nulls but hey there are people who have only posted two or three times that means you can't read them and thus I'm excused from doing so!'

    Example:

    PandaDarling

    When he was reacting to tae's sus on bianca he suggested that the only way to figure out what Bianca is, is to put her up for a lynch and see how she reacts:

    Quote Originally Posted by oath2order View Post
    I like this post, but I kind of can't agree with Bianca being a chaotic TP because this is her playstyle. The only way to figure this out is for us to put up her for lynch and see if she drops out, basically.
    When if previous games are any indication we know she's going to react poorly and make herself seem scummy no matter what alignment she is. This suggestion is absolutely sketchy.

    Also Oath seemed to have a neutral opinion on Farobi which is weird as hell since he thought it was town vs town vs town when it came to Ness vs Farobi vs Tae. Something about that seemed like avoidance. Lastly when he was reading into Ness in this post he criticized Ness' sus of Sensei over something as small as not having read the thread when his own sus of Sensei seemed to be based on something small as well. One other thing that bothers me in his read on Ness is that he townlocked Ness anyways and townlocked him because his playstyle was 'similar to BotW', which seems to contradict how Oath has been very anti-meta lately, because in townlocking Ness he's fully using meta in doing so.

    Also tae going after bianca seems like somebody going after an easy target given how unstable bianca is.

    But yeah Oath is my biggest suspect based on his null filler, excuses for null filler, misuse of the term wishywashy, contradictory behavior, NL suggestion, and going after easy targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trundle View Post
    why are you full reads listing so early in?
    They wanted me to contribute, and I did. You'll notice that tae did a similar thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dad View Post
    Also Oath seemed to have a neutral opinion on Farobi which is weird as hell since he thought it was town vs town vs town when it came to Ness vs Farobi vs Tae. Something about that seemed like avoidance. Lastly when he was reading into Ness in this post he criticized Ness' sus of Sensei over something as small as not having read the thread when his own sus of Sensei seemed to be based on something small as well. One other thing that bothers me in his read on Ness is that he townlocked Ness anyways and townlocked him because his playstyle was 'similar to BotW', which seems to contradict how Oath has been very anti-meta lately, because in townlocking Ness he's fully using meta in doing so.

    Also tae going after bianca seems like somebody going after an easy target given how unstable bianca is.

    But yeah Oath is my biggest suspect based on his null filler, excuses for null filler, misuse of the term wishywashy, contradictory behavior, NL suggestion, and going after easy targets.
    I thought it was town v town v town. Then as I went through and read, it just seemed like ****posting on the part of Farobi. Thus nulling him.

    Yes, I am using meta for Ness. Yes, I am a hypocrite for that. Okay.

    Okay, fine, you can critique me for the null filler. Whatever. It's me contributing somewhat.

    **** this, I'm done. See you all after whoever you all lynch, obviously it's going to be me because once that train started rolling, it's bandwagon time, here comes Dad with his load of garbage. This is ridiculous. I get **** in BOTW for not contributing day one, and now that I attempt to contribute day one here I get put up for lynch. There's just no winning.

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    breathes deeply

    i am only halfway through the thread, what i have so far (from my understanding) is basically a number generator was used to tell if i was scum/not scum then this whole thing erupted. decided to say this since i'm involved
    lemme finish reading this thread and i'll come back with a list


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