Tbh, I'm slightly uncomfortable with the four votes on Evan so fast, but the only one which I don't trust is waffles (I'm kinda uncomfortable with peichi as well but don't view her as being likely in either of my scumteam equations. But I agree with Sat, now that Kirby is confirmed, there is no way a Bianca push is justified as scumBianca would have gone for the ML
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Hiya, well you stop tunneling me if I'm right on Evan, or maybe explain anything with valid logic or anything which doesn't go both ways
would have gone for what ML?
On Kirby or Heyden assuming he's town since she has the hammer. I feel that new scum would have gone for a ML on the person who was most accurate (or any ML at all) rather than just sit back
how does your statement go both ways?
you said mafia didn't have any better kills. who scumreads you? me and nobody else it feels like. most people townread you and most people agree with your reads so i don't really see how you weren't a good kill and why you didn't include yourself in the possibility of deaths
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she did hammer hayden though, it was just too late?
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if you're right on evan i don't know what i'll do since i still think he's town tbh
Kinda threw the possibility of deaths thing out the window, since I was expecting Sat to die the previous night. I think that the only two people who voiced substantial agreement with me on you/Evan were Kirby and Heyden pre-D1 and I was null in most I think but I'd have to check, which iirc, was similar to the level of trust ppl had in you
Glow, let's say the Evan lynch goes through today and he's maf. Am I mafia in that situation
i'm curious, would you have killed sataric? i wouldn't, maybe in a larger more serious game i would
most people have scumleaned me and still scumlean me
i'm not sure, i would want to say no. but i genuinely believe he'll flip town so it's sort of strange to consider it
I would, he's a skilled player, on most people's toenreads lists, and just a threat in general.
For the second thing, again, Id have to check and make a list or something
what was his half slip?
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
Yeah ok, not ok with this bandwagon. Pretty sure one or two scum is jumping on me as lynch bait.
scum Bianca would not go for the mislynch, true...unless she was coached into doing so. I'm pretty sure it's a heavy WIFOM situation where none of us would think scum would be THAT stupid for doing something so blatantly scummy. I cannot see how town Bianca would do that, and y'all are giving her a pass on it? If I did it, you'd be mass voting me faster than Eminem raps, because apparently sussing me for behavior others have exhibited but they get a 100% pass on is the cool thing to do now.
Since I don't want to die, like kirby, I think I am also forced to claim here.
I am HandUnit the cop, and I got inno on kirbystarship last night. Based on my role description/flavor text, I'm near certain I'm either crazy cop or naive cop, and more likely the latter after kirby outed. This might be why the Nightmare Fangle item exists. Because otherwise there'd be no reason for my role to exist.
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So this all begs the question, why did Mary die anyway? If she was going to become mafia lynch bait in the coming days and was so widely scumread like you said, why did they off her? I think you're exaggerating the extent she was scumread (I had her in nulls, one person had her in townreads, and 2-3 maybe at most had her as a scumlean?) She certainly wasn't a lynch candidate (my original contention). I argue that it helped mafia to take her out since killing someone like me or you (assuming you're not scum) would have indirectly confirmed a lot of other people. Mary's activity and posting style never really linked herself too strongly to many other people IMO, even though she did have a few scumleans.
Irrelevant in light of kirby's outing now, but I should have worded what I said more carefully, and so yeah you didn't misinterpret what I said there. I just didn't put it the way I should have (Bianca and kirby are more sus, heyden slightly more sus). You still like to cherrypick a lot of what I say though this game
I voted how I did partly because Bianca pointed it out, and partly because I wanted to stop another BOTW situation from happening. Were there other people I could have voted for that were inactive or less active? Yes, but my vote was a placeholder, not a policy ironclad vote, and soon as she came in and started contributing I not only switched but moved her into my townleans.
scum Bianca would not go for the mislynch, true...unless she was coached into doing so. I'm pretty sure it's a heavy WIFOM situation where none of us would think scum would be THAT stupid for doing something so blatantly scummy. I cannot see how town Bianca would do that, and y'all are giving her a pass on it? If I did it, you'd be mass voting me faster than Eminem raps, because apparently sussing me for behavior others have exhibited but they get a 100% pass on is the cool thing to do now.
Since I don't want to die, like kirby, I think I am also forced to claim here.
I am HandUnit the cop, and I got inno on kirbystarship last night. Based on my role description/flavor text, I'm near certain I'm either crazy cop or naive cop, and more likely the latter after kirby outed. This might be why the Nightmare Fangle item exists. Because otherwise there'd be no reason for my role to exist.
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So this all begs the question, why did Mary die anyway? If she was going to become mafia lynch bait in the coming days and was so widely scumread like you said, why did they off her? I think you're exaggerating the extent she was scumread (I had her in nulls, one person had her in townreads, and 2-3 maybe at most had her as a scumlean?) She certainly wasn't a lynch candidate (my original contention). I argue that it helped mafia to take her out since killing someone like me or you (assuming you're not scum) would have indirectly confirmed a lot of other people. Mary's activity and posting style never really linked herself too strongly to many other people IMO, even though she did have a few scumleans.
Irrelevant in light of kirby's outing now, but I should have worded what I said more carefully, and so yeah you didn't misinterpret what I said there. I just didn't put it the way I should have (Bianca and kirby are more sus, heyden slightly more sus). You still like to cherrypick a lot of what I say though this game
I voted how I did partly because Bianca pointed it out, and partly because I wanted to stop another BOTW situation from happening. Were there other people I could have voted for that were inactive or less active? Yes, but my vote was a placeholder, not a policy ironclad vote, and soon as she came in and started contributing I not only switched but moved her into my townleans.
Yeah ok, not ok with this bandwagon. Pretty sure one or two scum is jumping on me as lynch bait.
scum Bianca would not go for the mislynch, true...unless she was coached into doing so. I'm pretty sure it's a heavy WIFOM situation where none of us would think scum would be THAT stupid for doing something so blatantly scummy. I cannot see how town Bianca would do that, and y'all are giving her a pass on it? If I did it, you'd be mass voting me faster than Eminem raps, because apparently sussing me for behavior others have exhibited but they get a 100% pass on is the cool thing to do now.
Since I don't want to die, like kirby, I think I am also forced to claim here.
I am HandUnit the cop, and I got inno on kirbystarship last night. Based on my role description/flavor text, I'm near certain I'm either crazy cop or naive cop, and more likely the latter after kirby outed. This might be why the Nightmare Fangle item exists. Because otherwise there'd be no reason for my role to exist.
Gee, literally the inspection that gives us the least information Kirby being near confirmed. Nightmare Mangle does not provide evidence that your role exists as everyone can buy it, nor does it add appear to add a percentage modifer or something to an existing ability if I'm reading it. If the Nightmare Mangle item was intended for use by a specific player Bowie would say something about it.
The inspection and inno on Kirby is 100% fake and let me explain why. The natural reaction of any cop to an inno inspection on somebody who they scumread is to back off of them, but Evan, despite inno on Kirby, sussed him HARDER than yesterday. This is not something a cop with an inno report would do
Evan's scumleans come day two. An inno report would be HIGHLY indicative of town kirby, and he'd at least null him, yet he continues to scumread him. An actual cop would lay off of Kirby and focus on someone else, instead of tunneling him in #596 and insisting that the Mary kill heavily implicated Kirby, despite his "inno report"
suuure. sure. keep telling yourself that
Kirby pushed Mary quite a bit, and unless I'm misreading d1 and the voting thread, Mary wasn't ever a serious lynch candidate, so I have no clue what you're talking about how Kirby could have pushed Mary with little cost to him. It would have ****ed him over pushing a townie for a lynch...It was me, bianca, kirby, and heyden, that were the most considered, and to me scum!kirby would grasp at straws to cast sus on someone else.
It heavily implicates kirby and bianca and only mildly implicates Heyden. Another twisting. I still think two or three of those three are scum but the last death doesn't really implicate Heyden that heavily imo.
Also, what exactly did I ignore from your "case" on me? It's getting frustrating being accused of things I didn't do, by someone who apparently loves to twist my words and force what I say into his 100% un-pliable, inviolable, predetermined conclusions.
These two quotes above are lashing out at Kirby for non-contribution. An actual cop would have left him as he would have had bigger fish to fry than a "inno report"
And finally, Evan's first reaction, after Mary's death and an inno report is to throw shade at Kirby
This is fake as ****. I'm voting Evan now
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
LOL, your first reaction to a cop outing is to vote him because of your tunneling. Seems legit.
The whole reason I continued to sus kirby is this sentence right here
(emphasis added)
After I got my inno on kirby, I did not know how to react, since it is likely my report could be lawyered, or I could be insane or naive. And I didn't want to out or suddenly massively change my behavior so I'd get massed and be forced to claim like I am now. I wanted to stay under the radar so I could get a bigger sample size and scan my scumleans more without dying.
Remember the last time Dolby voted for a blue claim folks? Keep that in mind...and if you don't change, I'm not afraid to buy the blue hat. I don't care how scummy it makes me look because you are making the wrong choice by killing me. I'm the cop, dammit, and I'm not going down without a fight.
If I had sole control of the lynch, I'd probably go with either Bianca or ITYW right now.In a majority of people who had put out reads, she was a scumlean, which didn't exactly make her trustworthy. Now was she going to be lynched today? Probably not. In the coming days? Quite likely. Maf definetely had the potential to swing the lynch onto her in the future at the given point in time. Though I will concede that not saying anything did link her to as few people as possible, that could be a feasible reason for a kill.
Than why did you view Kirby as sus when you had an inno report on him. Also, the report that would give us the least information (behind Mary)Irrelevant in light of kirby's outing now, but I should have worded what I said more carefully, and so yeah you didn't misinterpret what I said there. I just didn't put it the way I should have (Bianca and kirby are more sus, heyden slightly more sus). You still like to cherrypick a lot of what I say though this game
Cleb, Tina, and Jacob are all relatively experienced players (more the first two, but you get my drift). Peichi wasn't really gonna provide good content or tone, but it pretty much was a policy vote. At this point, it's more that I just don't like policy lynching at all, and that vote was nothing but a policy the way you explain it
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LOL, your first reaction to a cop outing is to vote him because of your tunneling. Seems legit.
The whole reason I continued to sus kirby is this sentence right here
(emphasis added)
After I got my inno on kirby, I did not know how to react, since it is likely my report could be lawyered, or I could be insane or naive. And I didn't want to out or suddenly massively change my behavior so I'd get massed and be forced to claim like I am now. I wanted to stay under the radar so I could get a bigger sample size and scan my scumleans more without dying.
Remember the last time Dolby voted for a blue claim folks? Keep that in mind...and if you don't change, I'm not afraid to buy the blue hat. I don't care how scummy it makes me look because you are making the wrong choice by killing me. I'm the cop, dammit, and I'm not going down without a fight.
Wtf
I'm not voting you for tunneling, I'm voting you for tunneling your inno report. I don't even view it as a natural reaction, given the wording of Nightmare Mangle, that it was indicative of the cop being insane/naive/paranoid. I don't even it was intended for the cops use, if we even have one, as it was far more expensive in comparison to nun's guns, and didn't even refer to a cop role.
Again, you were tunneling your inno report, and put him in your scumleans. That is not a natural reaction, and Kirby is the inspection which gives us the least inforamtion, it's like a fake invest in ToS
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*voting you for tunneling just anybody
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Wait, nvm the potential to not have a cop part. The Purple Guy's Car is in the game, we prob have a cop. This doesn't mean I believe anything, his interactions with Kirby are not what any cop with an inno report would make
in a post somewhere dolby said "mary died because mafia clearly had no better kills" which, if dolby's town, implies that he doesn't think he would be a better kill than mary. but if he's town, why would he think this? he should've been wondering why HE wasn't chosen.... he's a strong player and majority of the game townreads him, so how was he not a better kill than mary?
it's somewhat of a slip because since he was objectively a better kill than mary (especially if he thinks both evan and i are scum together, he susses us both) and the only way mafia wouldn't have the option to kill him is if he was mafia himself.
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meh, i wouldn't back off a scumread if i had inno on them either. there's gf, framer/lawyer, etc.
For reference. I think maf could have had the same dilamna which lead me to kill Jacob in Smash. Jacob was sussed by most players, and probably could have been lynched in later days, but he was a good kill because the most townread were likely to be protected, and the mid-nulls were right on somebody for the most part (e.g. f11 and Zendal that game)
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