Iwaseleanor was Cult? Wow - gg indeed for whomever shot her! I'll go back and read her posts again later, and also try to work out what having a Vig vs a SK means for the game and if I can make sense of either scenario.
(Side Note : I really didn't expect this much constant debate/confusion over which roles could be in a game and what they could do, so I'm getting hopelessly bogged down in terminology/theory/strategy each and every time this kind of thing comes up.. so, always, basically.)
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Toadsworthy vs taesaek = are we really looking at another 44 or so hours of this?? Would our time not be better spent trying to find other Cult members and letting that Role Block vs Cop thing simmer down to a point where we all speak reasonably and think logically to work out what to do instead? - those are rhetorical questions, to be clear, I just couldn't think of a better way to phrase my point (which is not a new one anyway of course *but maybe if enough of us are ready to move on we will actually be able to*).
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mogyay post # 848
amanda is also a player who is being town read by basically everyone (bar abe) so culting her might have been an ok idea actually, hm, i know she's new so it'd be risky but she's obviously a pretty good player
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(bar abe at one point iirc **** is what i should have said)
I didn't reply to this when I responded to the question asked of me at the start of this post (my answer is in post # 860) for a few reasons : this seemed like a rhetorical question intended to discuss recruitment strategy, neither aimed at me to respond to personally nor a general discussion I could contribute to as a player in their first game ; literally the only thing I could add would be to ask questions and that seemed much more likely to derail an interesting discussion than offer anything "new" ; and finally, I was hoping any resulting discussion might help me apply any applicable theories to other players here (since I am - or was not - the only first-time player).
Fleshy post # 864
I do really agree with Mog's post about Amanda and I think it's quite possible at this point,;
At the time of replying to mogyay's post I had too many other things I was working on and questions to ask my coach to want to start asking him how to "defend" myself if necessary - since there was nothing directed to me personally. Once I saw this post, that changed lol. I didn't know how to address "paranoia"/"suspicion" as a player for obvious reasons and had to check with my coach to clarify a couple of things before I could reply. I read his answer somewhere after 2am and wasn't able to work on this post *and* my 2nd reads post so I prioritised finishing the latter and doing the former after sleeping.
I don't disagree with the premise - I mean, I'm not Cult and I've not been converted - but I absolutely see the logic in the suggestion that I'm now Cult. After so many "doing well" comments and being so widely "town read" initially, the tide was going to have to turn at some point from what I understand of the game. I don't know how good of an idea it would be for Cult to convert a player like me in her first game but I can see the logic for and against it : As an unknown that makes it harder for town to pick me apart (assuming I can keep up my previous activity levels) but it also means converting me would be a literal gamble on my being able to keep myself together enough to not cause Cult problems.
Curry post # 918
Amanda, I actually kind of agree with mog. Up until your newest reads list (which again, great reads for a first time player!), you haven't done much of developing the conversation. You popped in on the gender issue thing but that's really about it and some filler posts. You've clearly demonstrated already that you're a good player, it's not unlikely you could be cult either originally or culted, since you have no scum or town meta. We don't know how you'd play as either faction, and it does seem strange to me that you definitely know what's going on and really the most you've done is reads. You've done an excellent job for a first time player, but that also means cult could've culted you because they picked up on that.
Hmm, again, I don't disagree with the premise - but I have a couple of comments to make here and then some questions.
Expecting me to be "developing the conversation" seems like a mighty big ask of any new player in this game, specifically - there are so many variables to consider, most of which I'm unfamiliar with (poker tourneys and 1 role playing game 7 years ago do not equate with me being able to follow things well enough to presume I should be trying to steer experienced players away from their chosen discussion topics). I see my role (which isn't Cult) in this game to be one of trying to keep up with developments, work out what's actually going on, and make sure my vote and my voice contribute as much to town winning as possible.
I disagree that all I've done recently aside from my reads post has been comment on the gender issue and "some filler posts" - I haven't been able to contribute directly as much as I would like to date, but I really think we're all best off if I'm spending as much time as possible trying to understand things (off-thread as much as possible of course) and not **** things up for town.
I have the following questions, therefore :
- could you point out which of my posts you consider "filler" please (aside from post # 766 but that makes sense in context I think - the timing of everything with PandaDarling's green question, Athena Cykes posting, and then Arstotzkan (mod) replying to Panda's question.. I just could not help laughing, it was too perfectly ridiculous), and expand on why you consider them to be so?
- you mention I might have been Cult originally, and I think this is the first time this has been suggested - is there any reason to think I might have been Cult all along aside from just I'm a "good player" and have no meta??
... it does seem strange to me that you definitely know what's going on and really the most you've done is reads.
- finally, could you please elaborate on this? I don't want compliments or nice words (although they're nice), I'm just struggling to work out how I could look like I know what's going on when I just.. don't. I've been trying to contribute where and as I can, but this is an incredibly steep learning curve I'm working on here and I think I'm doing okay just for not having given up by now, frankly. I'm sure things will get easier at some point but for right now I'm confused and trying to soak up as much information as possible so I can work through things. In the interim, I'd like to try and make sure I'm not inadvertently coming across in a way that isn't true.
