I don't understand something about the new Anti-Bump rule

King Dorado · Nov 21, 2015

what about users who didnt start the thread? can they still make bump posts?? and is there any restrictions on how frequently non OP users bump the threads???

santoyo.bay · Nov 21, 2015

I was wondering the same thing..hmmm

tae · Nov 21, 2015

i saw you ask about this, only to have it overlooked. this is an important question.

inkling · Nov 21, 2015

I'm just wondering what prompted the change... 4 hours seems harsh to me

tae · Nov 21, 2015

inkling said:
I'm just wondering what prompted the change... 4 hours seems harsh to me

probably people who bump their thread constantly while they've been on the first page the entire time.

inkling · Nov 21, 2015

taesaek said:
probably people who bump their thread constantly while they've been on the first page the entire time.

The original rule was every hour. And I see threads like that that blow up so it still doesn't make sense to me. Especially since the search is horrible

Skyfall · Nov 21, 2015

I'm not sure, obviously, I'm not a mod or anything, but I think it's *all* bumps, whether original poster or friendly bumps. That's how the rule read to me, at least.

Murray · Nov 21, 2015

Skyfall said:
I'm not sure, obviously, I'm not a mod or anything, but I think it's *all* bumps, whether original poster or friendly bumps. That's how the rule read to me, at least.

This ^. Rule applies no matter who posts it, a bump is a bump.

King Dorado · Nov 21, 2015

Murray said:
This ^. Rule applies no matter who posts it, a bump is a bump.

ok, that could be made more clear, as the rule only refers to "you" bumping "your thread."

If it applies to everyone, does that mean nobody can bump the thread for 4 hours; or just that any individual who bumps it must wait an hour before doing so again?

Murray · Nov 21, 2015

King Dad said:
ok, that could be made more clear, as the rule only refers to "you" bumping "your thread."

If it applies to everyone, does that mean nobody can bump the thread for 4 hours; or just that any individual who bumps it must wait an hour before doing so again?

First option is correct, there must be at least four hours between bump posts regardless of who posted them. That being said if you actually have something to contribute to that thread then of course you can post within the 4 hours, it's just there has to be a 4 hour gap between the last post and when a 'bump' post is made (and 8 in amiibo card trading).

Miharu · Nov 21, 2015

(I'm going to assume this counts)
But does posting "Good luck on selling/buying/etc -type message here" count as a bump? o:

Or will only messages that says or includes "Bump" count as a bump?

Bloobloop · Nov 21, 2015

Wait, what new anti-bump rule? I've never heard of this before ;-;

King Dorado · Nov 21, 2015

Bloobloop said:
Wait, what new anti-bump rule? I've never heard of this before ;-;

see the Belltree Direct that was released 5 hours ago, on the bulletin board subforum...

Jake · Nov 21, 2015

inkling said:
I'm just wondering what prompted the change... 4 hours seems harsh to me

4 hours is pretty generous IMO

Murray · Nov 21, 2015

Miharu said:
(I'm going to assume this counts)
But does posting "Good luck on selling/buying/etc -type message here" count as a bump? o:

Or will only messages that says or includes "Bump" count as a bump?

Pretty much. If the post has the intent of just bumping the thread (which a lot of those kinds of posts do) then yes. I'm sure there's some borderline exceptions so don't be so worried.

Bloobloop said:
Wait, what new anti-bump rule? I've never heard of this before ;-;

It's not an 'anti-bump' rule. It's just clarifying and founding a uniform rule across the forums in regards to bumping. Bumping rules have always been present they have just been really vague and inconsistent in the past and thus hard to enforce.

RainCrossing · Nov 21, 2015

personally, I hate this rule. What if it's a sub-forum like the TBT marketspace? The first page usually gets overwritten in 2 hours.

Murray · Nov 21, 2015

RainCrossing said:
personally, I hate this rule. What if it's a sub-forum like the TBT marketspace? The first page usually gets overwritten in 2 hours.

Probably because people were bumping so much.

RainCrossing · Nov 21, 2015

oh, I never thought of that! I don't hate this rule then, but it should be reduced to 2 hours ╰(◡‿◡✿╰) .

Justin · Nov 21, 2015

As Murray pointed out earlier, this isn't entirely new. For example, the Villager trading board has had a 2 hour rule in place since the very beginning. And the Re-Tail board has said only once or twice a day for years. Obviously these rules were very inconsistent and rarely followed or enforced, so that's what we're fixing here.

We have set the limit to 4 hours, but that doesn't mean it can't be changed later after we see the effect of it. But I would ask you to keep an open mind to it for now and see how it turns out. It is worth noting that part of the reason threads fell off the main page so fast was due to the lack of any bumping rule/enforcement. It's a problem created by itself essentially. A longer limit is more fair to everyone really; you're not disadvantaged somehow just because you're not sitting on your thread bumping it every half an hour.

As to the original question of the thread, I honestly didn't really think of this myself when writing the rule so the phrasing may be poor. However I think it is only fair if we include everyone, not just the original poster, or we're basically rewarding people who have their friends spam their thread for them. That doesn't sound very fair to me.

taesaek said:
probably people who bump their thread constantly while they've been on the first page the entire time.

That's a good reason as well. I understand the need for bumping, but it's getting a bit ridiculous if your thread is still on the first page.

King Dorado · Nov 22, 2015

do people have to wait 4 hours after a regular post before making a bump??

or do people only have to wait 4 hours to bump if the last post made was a bump?

I don't understand something about the new Anti-Bump rule

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