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ACCF18
12-15-2010, 03:29 PM
So... what are your favorite N64 games?

Mine are:
-Zelda: Ocarina of Time
-Goldeneye 007
-Conker's Bad Fur Day
-Perfect Dark
-Paper Mario
-Mystical Ninja
-Mario Kart 64

Yokie
12-15-2010, 03:35 PM
Zelda: OoT & MM
Donkey Kong 64
Paper Mario
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil

Conor
12-15-2010, 03:43 PM
Banjo Kazooie
Super Mario 64
Yoshi's Story

Marcus
12-15-2010, 03:45 PM
OoT and Paper Mario.

That's it really, didn't play many.

Chimera
12-15-2010, 03:46 PM
Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
Superman 64 Super Smash Bros.

ACCF18
12-15-2010, 03:48 PM
Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
Superman 64 Super Smash Bros.Oh yes, how could I forget SSB?

Superman 64 was amazing. <3 JK

Chimera
12-15-2010, 03:52 PM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.

ACCF18
12-15-2010, 03:55 PM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.I agree.

SSB > SSBB > SSBM

Jrrj15
12-15-2010, 04:26 PM
Paper Mario (I used to call it Mario Paper Lol)
Mario Kart 64
Super Mario 64
and Kirby and the Crystal Shards

EDIT:
OH ALMOST FORGOT: Donkey Kong 64 :D

Mr. L
12-15-2010, 05:31 PM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.How is it better, just because it&#39;s older?

Thunder
12-15-2010, 05:33 PM
Super Mario 64
Yoshi&#39;s Story
Mario Party 3, 2, & 1.
Star Fox 64

Tom
12-15-2010, 05:53 PM
Super Smash Bros
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokemon Puzzle League
Hey You Pikachu
Star Wars Rogue Squadron
Bomberman Hero

Most of the other good N64 I never played until they were re-released. Like Kirby.

Trundle
12-15-2010, 06:03 PM
Zelda: OoT, Super Smash Bros. 64, Pokemon Snap&#33;, Paper Mario, Super Mario 64.

[Nook]
12-15-2010, 06:12 PM
SM64
PM
Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2
Zelda: OoT
Zelda: MM
SSB

Psychonaut
12-15-2010, 06:22 PM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.I agree.

SSB > SSBB > SSBM:/

on what grounds is melee the worst game?

my favs = star fox 64, mario kart, banjo kazooie, and other stuff that i forget about.

donkey kong 64 and ssb were great, though.

ACCF18
12-16-2010, 02:08 AM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.How is it better, just because it&#39;s older?No, it&#39;s because Brawl is just newfaggish and SSB was more fun at the time. SSBB is just a laggy piece of s***.

@the last post: I don&#39;t hate Melee, I just liked Brawl and SSB better.

Princess
12-16-2010, 02:11 AM
Super Mario 64 & Donkey Kong 64
:&#39;)))

Psychonaut
12-16-2010, 03:59 AM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.How is it better, just because it&#39;s older?No, it&#39;s because Brawl is just newfaggish and SSB was more fun at the time. SSBB is just a laggy piece of s***.

@the last post: I don&#39;t hate Melee, I just liked Brawl and SSB better. ... :/

melee is so *censored.3.0*ing fun once you learn how to play it more competitively, if you can apply that word to smash bros.

if you&#39;re saying you like brawl less because it&#39;s a laggy piece of *censored.2.0*.. why don&#39;t you like melee better, since the controls are very lag-free?

newfaggish.. bleh. don&#39;t use that again. k? k.

i enjoyed brawl a hell of a lot, but i think that in the long run melee is/was better. not because it was older, but because it was a game people cared about. there&#39;s too much BS luck in brawl for it to be as competitive as melee. not to get off onto a tangent about how srs bzns pro gaemin is, but right when melee was at it&#39;s peak of competitive play, brawl had to come along and spoil the fun.

SAKURAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

also, ssb was fun, but it was fun for a different reason. that reason being that i was considerably younger. not to say the game isn&#39;t still fun, it&#39;s just nostalgia goggles.

i doubt you&#39;d still prefer to sit down with 3 of your friends and play SSB, compared to melee or brawl.

BUT DAMN I ENJOY WRITING A LONGASS WALL OF TEXT TO DESCRIBE WHY YOUR OPINION IS INVALID AND MINE IS THE ONLY CORRECT ONE.

Jake.
12-16-2010, 04:15 AM
The Zelda ones.

Mariorock09
12-16-2010, 06:23 AM
-Super Mario 64 ( Which im starting to make machinima of now&#33; )
- Mario Kart 64
- Paper Mario
- Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
- Mario Party 3
- Super Smash Bros 64

Chimera
12-16-2010, 12:28 PM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.How is it better, just because it&#39;s older?Nah, I still like brawl, but the 64 version allows more advanced play.

Psychonaut
12-16-2010, 02:39 PM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.How is it better, just because it&#39;s older?Nah, I still like brawl, but the 64 version allows more advanced play.k..

i&#39;ll give it to you that ness was considerably pro in the original, if you knew how to DJC well/quickly. i messed around with him after playing melee for a while to see what he could do (also after reading how crazy high on the tier list he was back then), and he&#39;s beast.

but, after playing (/mainin) with him in melee for so long, and knowing MOST (not all) of the tricks, i&#39;d have to disagree, since melee has a plethora of "advanced play" tricks.

unless i really, really missed the boat on the original.

and brawl is just easy-mode.

Chimera
12-16-2010, 08:26 PM
Original SSB better than SSBB, imo.How is it better, just because it&#39;s older?Nah, I still like brawl, but the 64 version allows more advanced play.k..

i&#39;ll give it to you that ness was considerably pro in the original, if you knew how to DJC well/quickly. i messed around with him after playing melee for a while to see what he could do (also after reading how crazy high on the tier list he was back then), and he&#39;s beast.

but, after playing (/mainin) with him in melee for so long, and knowing MOST (not all) of the tricks, i&#39;d have to disagree, since melee has a plethora of "advanced play" tricks.

unless i really, really missed the boat on the original.

and brawl is just easy-mode.Well I&#39;m not sure which I like more, 64 or melee. They severely nerfed Ness for melee, but everyone still had unique tricks (wavedash). But everything is so much slower in Brawl (falling, dodging, moving, etc.).

Psychonaut
12-16-2010, 11:00 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepolder?Nah, I still like brawl, but the 64 version allows more advanced play.k..

i&#39;ll give it to you that ness was considerably pro in the original, if you knew how to DJC well/quickly. i messed around with him after playing melee for a while to see what he could do (also after reading how crazy high on the tier list he was back then), and he&#39;s beast.

but, after playing (/mainin) with him in melee for so long, and knowing MOST (not all) of the tricks, i&#39;d have to disagree, since melee has a plethora of "advanced play" tricks.

unless i really, really missed the boat on the original.

and brawl is just easy-mode.Well I&#39;m not sure which I like more, 64 or melee. They severely nerfed Ness for melee, but everyone still had unique tricks (wavedash). But everything is so much slower in Brawl (falling, dodging, moving, etc.).well.. ness DID kinda own everyone in the original.. if used right.
him and pikachu.

wavedashing is hardly a unique trick.. really, the only unique tricks came from either the top-tiers, or the horribly awful-tiers.

waveshining, double jump cancelling, and whatever you wanna call mewtwo&#39;s basic style are the only things that are unique "tricks". in my opinion.

i picked up ness because he was so awfully nerfed.. and ended up loving him. :3
you just have to feel good about beating uppity bragging people at school, using significantly "worse" characters.

and oh, when you get a crowd. L.O.L.

again.. brawl = easy mode.

The Sign Painter
12-16-2010, 11:06 PM
Never beat it, but I believe it was called Glover.
That game is great.

Chimera
12-17-2010, 01:20 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepolderk..

i&#39;ll give it to you that ness was considerably pro in the original, if you knew how to DJC well/quickly. i messed around with him after playing melee for a while to see what he could do (also after reading how crazy high on the tier list he was back then), and he&#39;s beast.

but, after playing (/mainin) with him in melee for so long, and knowing MOST (not all) of the tricks, i&#39;d have to disagree, since melee has a plethora of "advanced play" tricks.

unless i really, really missed the boat on the original.

and brawl is just easy-mode.Well I&#39;m not sure which I like more, 64 or melee. They severely nerfed Ness for melee, but everyone still had unique tricks (wavedash). But everything is so much slower in Brawl (falling, dodging, moving, etc.).well.. ness DID kinda own everyone in the original.. if used right.
him and pikachu.

wavedashing is hardly a unique trick.. really, the only unique tricks came from either the top-tiers, or the horribly awful-tiers.

waveshining, double jump cancelling, and whatever you wanna call mewtwo&#39;s basic style are the only things that are unique "tricks". in my opinion.

i picked up ness because he was so awfully nerfed.. and ended up loving him. :3
you just have to feel good about beating uppity bragging people at school, using significantly "worse" characters.

and oh, when you get a crowd. L.O.L.

again.. brawl = easy mode.I guess I didn&#39;t mean unique when I mentioned wavedashing, but it is an advanced trick that was taken out of brawl. And tiers hardly matter because I was great with every supposively bad character in melee, like Ness.

Psychonaut
12-17-2010, 03:12 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepolderWell I&#39;m not sure which I like more, 64 or melee. They severely nerfed Ness for melee, but everyone still had unique tricks (wavedash). But everything is so much slower in Brawl (falling, dodging, moving, etc.).well.. ness DID kinda own everyone in the original.. if used right.
him and pikachu.

wavedashing is hardly a unique trick.. really, the only unique tricks came from either the top-tiers, or the horribly awful-tiers.

waveshining, double jump cancelling, and whatever you wanna call mewtwo&#39;s basic style are the only things that are unique "tricks". in my opinion.

i picked up ness because he was so awfully nerfed.. and ended up loving him. :3
you just have to feel good about beating uppity bragging people at school, using significantly "worse" characters.

and oh, when you get a crowd. L.O.L.

again.. brawl = easy mode.I guess I didn&#39;t mean unique when I mentioned wavedashing, but it is an advanced trick that was taken out of brawl. And tiers hardly matter because I was great with every supposively bad character in melee, like Ness. tires don exits is false.

they do exist.

the only thing that changes them one way or another is how much time and effort the player pours into the character, and even them it&#39;s hard to beat the top tiers with the lowest.

i&#39;ve beaten many a fox/falco, and been beaten by pikachu (in melee), using ness. this doesn&#39;t mean he&#39;s stronger.. it just means my opponents weren&#39;t as good as i was, because i spent way too much time practicing how to use ness. :3

tiers do matter. but being prepared against threats and knowing your character can usually make up for the difference.

unless your opponent is equally prepared.

tl;dr: tiers exist only on the theory that both players are at the same level of play. if both players are as good as one another in every aspect, then the higher tier will win, unless it is a counter-picked character or what have you.

if a higher skill player plays a lower tier, and a lower skill plays a higher tier, it won&#39;t work out the same, but if both people are equal, tiers will exist, patterns of wins and losses will emerge.

Chimera
12-17-2010, 04:18 PM
Quoting limited to 4 levels deepolderwell.. ness DID kinda own everyone in the original.. if used right.
him and pikachu.

wavedashing is hardly a unique trick.. really, the only unique tricks came from either the top-tiers, or the horribly awful-tiers.

waveshining, double jump cancelling, and whatever you wanna call mewtwo&#39;s basic style are the only things that are unique "tricks". in my opinion.

i picked up ness because he was so awfully nerfed.. and ended up loving him. :3
you just have to feel good about beating uppity bragging people at school, using significantly "worse" characters.

and oh, when you get a crowd. L.O.L.

again.. brawl = easy mode.I guess I didn&#39;t mean unique when I mentioned wavedashing, but it is an advanced trick that was taken out of brawl. And tiers hardly matter because I was great with every supposively bad character in melee, like Ness. tires don exits is false.

they do exist.

the only thing that changes them one way or another is how much time and effort the player pours into the character, and even them it&#39;s hard to beat the top tiers with the lowest.

i&#39;ve beaten many a fox/falco, and been beaten by pikachu (in melee), using ness. this doesn&#39;t mean he&#39;s stronger.. it just means my opponents weren&#39;t as good as i was, because i spent way too much time practicing how to use ness. :3

tiers do matter. but being prepared against threats and knowing your character can usually make up for the difference.

unless your opponent is equally prepared.

tl;dr: tiers exist only on the theory that both players are at the same level of play. if both players are as good as one another in every aspect, then the higher tier will win, unless it is a counter-picked character or what have you.

if a higher skill player plays a lower tier, and a lower skill plays a higher tier, it won&#39;t work out the same, but if both people are equal, tiers will exist, patterns of wins and losses will emerge.Tiers do exist, but in some situations, like the ones you mentioned, they aren&#39;t as important. It seems that the good thing about brawl is that all the characters are a little more even. But some characters are weak to other characters regardless of tiers.

ACCF18
12-17-2010, 05:16 PM
Tiers don&#39;t exist. All characters are equally good, you just need to know how to use them. I&#39;m sure a Ganon can beat a noob Meta-Knight. Meta-Knight is the easiest character to be good with.

Psychonaut
12-17-2010, 06:17 PM
Tiers don&#39;t exist. All characters are equally good, you just need to know how to use them. I&#39;m sure a Ganon can beat a noob Meta-Knight. Meta-Knight is the easiest character to be good with.bolded where your argument is flawed. the use of tiers as a ranking system takes the presumption of both players being of equal playing skill.

otherwise, yeah, tiers don&#39;t exist. but if you get two pros, there are tiers. and they do exist. look at the win/loss ratios that are out there, and then try and disagree.

tiers still exist in brawl, but the game as a whole is a lot more player-friendly, as most people who play it more than 10 hours can pick up any character and be competent with them.

I use samus, and can beat down people until they learn my play style.. then they can easily counter samus.

i think a big factor people don&#39;t take into consideration is how much people are threatened by characers, and how much of a surprise it is to fight a character you never fight. if you play against fox for months, and then fight a ness, lucario (not so much, but eh), samus, bowser, etc, your play style will have to adapt quickly, or else the opponent is at a huge advantage.

the thing you&#39;re saying that some characters are weak to others is called counter-picking, and yes. marth is a mean, mean counter to ness/lucas, due to infinite grab, sword, and general asshattery.

tiers do exist. end of story.

Chimera
12-17-2010, 07:43 PM
Good show. Now who wants to play brawl? lol